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Alicat said:
I'll laugh if he gets traded.

Will it suck yea but it isn't the end of the world
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Trading your best player that isn't Tom Brady when you realistically have 2 years elft in your window is pure stupidness. This isn't 10 years ago where they can draft and develop someone. They have ZERO depth at TE behind Gronk.
 
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I hope I don’t read Belichick is at the baptism of his sisters baby

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Gronk ?

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If it is indeed a Gronk trade, the timing of it is bizarre as well, gotta believe something happened that put the final nail in the coffin.

A trade like that should have been made prior or during the draft.
 
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What a clown show this organization is. They better pray there division and the conference they play in continue to be garbage.
 
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Belichick removing all Brady’s guys plus he switched Edelman urine sample with an old one he somehow got from A Rod.

He trades Gronk for a 1 and used all the picks to get the QB next year
 
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The reddit user posted that he or she would confirm the story if anyone guessed, and a slew of people did make guesses (including trading Gronk) but the poster did not confirm. Take that for what it's worth.
 

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When you hear something like this, I always wind up hoping it's for another superstar at a different position that's in a similar spot with their team like Aaron Donald. What it ends up being is either nothing or 2 2nds'.
 
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JRull86 said:
If it is indeed a Gronk trade, the timing of it is bizarre as well, gotta believe something happened that put the final nail in the coffin.

A trade like that should have been made prior or during the draft.
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What’s the expression? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it probably IS a duck.

A trade of Gronk at this point in the year, after the team and player have reportedly made progress on a contract extension, made no sense.
 
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What a clown show this organization is. They better pray there division and the conference they play in continue to be garbage.
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I'll bite.

What division has been better this millennium? Are you one of those guys who prop up the AFC North as far superior while removing the Pats from the equation and ignoring the Browns? Any division without its best team (let alone the by far best team in the league) will be worse than any other division - especially if you ignore that division's worst team (let alone the by far worst team in the league).

Since 2001, the AFC East has 576 wins, and the AFC North has 550. That's 1.44 wins more per year for the East. The only reason the North have had more representation in the playoffs is that the Steelers have been much worse than the Pats (while still one of the best and most consistent teams in the league) with 179 wins to 209, and the Browns have been much worse than any AFC East team with 83 wins to the Bills' 113. This inflates the Bengals' and Ravens' numbers to be better than the Dolphins' and Jets', with the Ravens collecting 145 wins to the Jets' 128 and the Bengals 134 to the Dolphins' 126.

But sending a 10-6 Bengals team to inevitably lose in the first round doesn't make a division stronger than one where one or several 8-8 9-7 or even 10-6 Jets/Dolphins/Bills team (or an 11-5 Pats team in '08) barely miss the playoffs.

The NFC North is an even more extreme example .

The AFC East being weak might be the most tired and inaccurate argument in football. Argue that the whole league is weak if you want to (and as you are wont to do), the AFC East is still an above average division at worst, and arguably the best in the league since Brady entered it.

There's also the fact that Brady's numbers against out-of-division opposition are just as good as against the AFC East. Compare that to an Aaron Rodgers who has a .741 record against his (truly weak) division, compared to a .595 record against the whole of the AFC, .611 against NFC East and .450 against NFC South. He has an expected win average of 11.9 wins in every 16 games against the Vikings, Lions and Bears, and 10.4 against everyone else. That's enough for him to have missed the playoffs several times if he played in a tougher division... not least since he made it going 8-7-1 (compared to the Pats missing it going 11-5).
 
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I get the org is having a rough time of it and sure it'd be nice if it wasnt public and it would be resolved, but the disrespect shown by Patriots 'fans' is awful.
 
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I'll bite.

What division has been better this millennium? Are you one of those guys who prop up the AFC North as far superior while removing the Pats from the equation and ignoring the Browns? Any division without its best team (let alone the by far best team in the league) will be worse than any other division - especially if you ignore that division's worst team (let alone the by far worst team in the league).

Since 2001, the AFC East has 576 wins, and the AFC North has 550. That's 1.44 wins more per year for the East. The only reason the North have had more representation in the playoffs is that the Steelers have been much worse than the Pats (while still one of the best and most consistent teams in the league) with 179 wins to 209, and the Browns have been much worse than any AFC East team with 83 wins to the Bills' 113. This inflates the Bengals' and Ravens' numbers to be better than the Dolphins' and Jets', with the Ravens collecting 145 wins to the Jets' 128 and the Bengals 134 to the Dolphins' 126.

But sending a 10-6 Bengals team to inevitably lose in the first round doesn't make a division stronger than one where one or several 8-8 9-7 or even 10-6 Jets/Dolphins/Bills team (or an 11-5 Pats team in '08) barely miss the playoffs.

The NFC North is an even more extreme example .

The AFC East being weak might be the most tired and inaccurate argument in football. Argue that the whole league is weak if you want to (and as you are wont to do), the AFC East is still an above average division at worst, and arguably the best in the league since Brady entered it.

There's also the fact that Brady's numbers against out-of-division opposition are just as good as against the AFC East. Compare that to an Aaron Rodgers who has a .741 record against his (truly weak) division, compared to a .595 record against the whole of the AFC, .611 against NFC East and .450 against NFC South. He has an expected win average of 11.9 wins in every 16 games against the Vikings, Lions and Bears, and 10.4 against everyone else. That's enough for him to have missed the playoffs several times if he played in a tougher division... not least since he made it going 8-7-1 (compared to the Pats missing it going 11-5).
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No one believes this. Browns are one team. They are bad as the Patriots are good. Take the Patriots out and the Browns out and what’s the divisional record?
 
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Boston media coverage about the pats now is literally all lies and fake news. The media has no shame.
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All media is guilty of being obsessed with getting the story out first as opposed to getting the story correct then getting it out before the competition does. Yet they seem surprised & confused by the public's dwindling trust in them. Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
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As for Gronk being traded or not- Why not? He's had some serious injuries and he's getting older, he's certainly closer to the end of his career than to the beginning. If the Pats can improve the team by trading him they should absolutely do that. No one is irreplaceable, not even Tom Brady.
 
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