Speculation: 2018 Off-season Thread #2

[Mosby]

ROR. We address an organizational need and Panarin seems to want to test free agency.

This. Then put Chucky on the wing.

 

[_Del_]

If you had your choice at these three, what one would you pick?

Ryan O’Riely
Phil Kessel
Artemi Panarin

ROR-Panarin
-

Kessel



However, since the price on the first two will be obscene, I'd sort of like us to keep our ear on the ground with Pittsburgh more than I'd want to pony up for the first twom

 

[Grimes]

Kessel would be the cheapest to obtain, ROR is the best fit (assuming we move Strome for him) and Panarin is the most explosive player out of that group and fits our age range the best. In a dream world where we have unlimited buget, Panarin. In a realistic sense I'd take Kessel. ROR is such an all around impactful player but I want to see what our center depth looks like with Strome and Chucky first. I feel like adding ROR by moving Strome gives us a much smaller window to be competitive, unless Strome were to bust completely.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

I think that ROR is at the top of my list. We have been week at center for so very long I would overload the position if I could.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

If we acquire ROR, our center depth would be amazing. Stepan, ROR, Dvorak, Galchenyuk and Kruger

I'm assuming that Strome is the piece going other way, if we trade for ROR

 

[Jakey53]

I think that ROR is at the top of my list. We have been week at center for so very long I would overload the position if I could.

What are you going to give up? It would be this years 5OA, Strome +++++. Not worth it.

If we acquire ROR, our center depth would be amazing. Stepan, ROR, Dvorak, Galchenyuk and Kruger

I'm assuming that Strome is the piece going other way, if we trade for ROR

It would take a hell of a lot more than Strome.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Panarin for sure, it crazy that the Jackets are considering trading him. His contract demands would scare me though

Panarin camp is unwilling to talk extension at this time and the Jackets believe he may be of most value in a trade now.

 

[Tad Mikowski]

Panarin camp is unwilling to talk extension at this time and the Jackets believe he may be of most value in a trade now.

That's exactly what I mean. The fact that he doesnt want to extend now means we give up big assets for potentially 1 year of panarin.

 

[SpaceCoyote]

Coyotes rumored to be asking about Chris Tanev.

Wonder if we're considering a 5/7 swap around Tanev on the floor. As long as Zadina isn't available, I would be fine with moving back two spots.

 

[_Del_]

Dahlin
Svechnikov
Zadina
Wahlstrom
Tkachuk
Hughes
Bouchard
Kotkaniemi

I could go down to eight with the right return. No further in my mind; that's where my tier ends. Too bad NYR are just outside the range because they have the extra picks to make it happen.

 

[SniperHF]

Too bad NYR are just outside the range because they have the extra picks to make it happen.

Chicago has another first and they are sitting at 8. I dunno that 3 spots is worth #27 but we could package some stuff together or take on the cap dump contract.

 

[_Del_]

Chicago isn't as willing to move their one extra late first as NYR would be to move one of their two late first. I imagine, anyway.

 

[hbk]

Chicago isn't as willing to move their one extra late first as NYR would be to move one of their two late first. I imagine, anyway.

We’d probably have to take on Hossa’s contract.

 

[IPreferPi]

Chicago isn't as willing to move their one extra late first as NYR would be to move one of their two late first. I imagine, anyway.

Unless we take on Hossa's contract.

 

[_Del_]

I'm not really opposed to taking Hossa.

but if it's Hossa, 8, 27 for 5 and whatever, I'd just as soon take my guy instead of the leftover on my list.

 

[IPreferPi]

Salary floor is officially set:

 

[_Del_]

So we need about $2M to hit the floor. Have two defensemen and a forward or two to add probably, so no need for dead space, but it still doesn't hurt us.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

That's exactly what I mean. The fact that he doesnt want to extend now means we give up big assets for potentially 1 year of panarin.

Well, you simply Doan do the deal if you can't get an agreement for more, otherwise you're in the same boat as Columbus. Doan matter anyway, chance we'd be able to acquire him are slim to none.

 

[Jakey53]

Well, you simply Doan do the deal if you can't get an agreement for more, otherwise you're in the same boat as Columbus. Doan matter anyway, chance we'd be able to acquire him are slim to none.

And slim just left town.

 

[XX]

If you had your choice at these three, what one would you pick?

Ryan O’Riely
Phil Kessel
Artemi Panarin

Panarin by a country mile if he's extended.

 

[Bazeek]

Moot point after the Galchenyuk trade, but apparently this was close to being a thing:

But The Athletic has learned that last weekend before Max Domi was traded from the Arizona Coyotes to the Montreal Canadiens for Alex Galchenyuk, Fenton and Coyotes GM John Chayka did talk about a framework that would send Niederreiter and Zucker to Arizona for Domi and another forward believed to be center Christian Dvorak.

One caveat: It’s likely that the Coyotes would have had to take Tyler Ennis, who has one more year left on his contract at a $4.6 million cap hit.

The trade, if it was consummated, would have freed up a significant amount of cap space for subsequent Wild moves either via trade or free agency.

Don't often get to hear about the ones that didn't happen.

 

[Mosby]

Hmm. I like Zucker. Nino too, but his contract is kind of stupid. I'd hate to move Dvo for either.

Still, knowing Dvo could be on the table for other deals is interesting. Thanks for sharing!


Edit: Assuming a ~5 mil extension for Zucker, this deal would have seen us take on 11 mil in salary. Kind of blows a hole into the theory that we're broke.

 

[XX]

Moot point after the Galchenyuk trade, but apparently this was close to being a thing:



Don't often get to hear about the ones that didn't happen.

I must be missing something, because Nino, Zucker (when signed), and Ennis is like $13m or more coming in with 2 ELCs going out. Doesn't seem super plausible.

 

[Jormungandr]

Or that Chayka was looking to acquire a center. Not ship one out. Doesn’t make much sense on the surface.

 

[Bazeek]

I must be missing something, because Nino, Zucker (when signed), and Ennis is like $13m or more coming in with 2 ELCs going out. Doesn't seem super plausible.

Dunno if there was more to it or what, but Russo's usually pretty scrupulous about getting a few sources on stuff like this.