2018-2019 Roster Discussion - Official Roster is In

[Mosby]

Strome leads the league in faceoffs now (among guys who have taken at least 75 face offs).

Strome is at 68.4%. He's won 52/76. Next up is ROR at 67.3%.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

The only thing the Coyotes realistically could have done differently that would actually make a difference is win lotteries.

Really? I don't recall Winnipeg winning the lottery and they built a terrific roster. I don't remember San Jose winning the lottery, nor St. Louis, nor Dallas, nor Anaheim. Toronto won the lottery, but sans Matthew they would still have a roster far better than the Coyotes. Boston doesn't have a first pick on its roster.

 

[Heldig]

Really? I don't recall Winnipeg winning the lottery and they built a terrific roster. I don't remember San Jose winning the lottery, nor St. Louis, nor Dallas, nor Anaheim. Toronto won the lottery, but sans Matthew they would still have a roster far better than the Coyotes. Boston doesn't have a first pick on its roster.

Just looking at the Leafs and they have drafted before the Coyotes 3 of the past 5 years and 1 spot back when they got Marner. In those drafts they have landed Reilly (#1 D), Nylander (#2 RW), Marner (star #1 RW), and Matthews (top 10 player in the world). In contrast the Coyotes drafted Samuellsson (bust), Domi (#2 LW traded), Perlini (#3 LW), Strome (possible #2 C), and Keller (first line winger).

 

[Matias Maccete]

Really? I don't recall Winnipeg winning the lottery and they built a terrific roster. I don't remember San Jose winning the lottery, nor St. Louis, nor Dallas, nor Anaheim. Toronto won the lottery, but sans Matthew they would still have a roster far better than the Coyotes. Boston doesn't have a first pick on its roster.

Winnipeg won and got Laine. San Jose and Dallas both traded for someone else's number 1 or 2 OA pick, who then broke out with them. They may not have won a lottery but they still built around a guy who taken with a lottery pick. St. Louis is fair, but also look at how far they've gotten. They seem to have a ceiling below that of teams lead by lottery players. They're still a very talented team though.

Anaheim and Boston are good examples. Vegas last year as well (I guess you could count Fleury, but meh) but that team was so unique I'm not sure it can be replicated. I'd agree that even without their lottery wins Winnipeg and Toronto built fantastic teams.

I'm not saying building a contender without lottery pick leading the way is impossible, because it's not, but it is much harder. You need those guys you take at outside of the top 1 or 2 to pan out really well. If Strome and Hayton become at least high end 2Cs along with Chucky and Keller progresses, we may have something here. If not......... I don't want to think about that. Also I think we probably need a new coach, but that's a different matter.

 

[BigJCaRoach]

Any Coyote draft history conversation gets me riled up over 2004 and Blake Wheeler.

Turns out he is the player Gretz thought he was.

 

[Jamieh]

Any Coyote draft history conversation gets me riled up over 2004 and Blake Wheeler.

Turns out he is the player Gretz thought he was.

Almost every team has a Wheeler, no need to fret.

 

[XX]

It's amazing how bad this team would be without so far the 4th best defense and the goaltending they've gotten. PK is also top 5. Fewest shots allowed in the league. 2nd best on faceoffs.

The next worst team scores at nearly 4x the G/60 rate. Quite the anomaly the Coyotes have going right now.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

It's amazing how bad this team would be without so far the 4th best defense and the goaltending they've gotten.

I bet that without that terrific defense they might have only won one game.

 

[Heldig]

It's amazing how bad this team would be without so far the 4th best defense and the goaltending they've gotten. PK is also top 5. Fewest shots allowed in the league. 2nd best on faceoffs.

The next worst team scores at nearly 4x the G/60 rate. Quite the anomaly the Coyotes have going right now.

That is more impressive than I realized. Now to figure out how to add a scorer to the team. Is it worth our 1st to get Nylander?

 

[SR]

That is more impressive than I realized. Now to figure out how to add a scorer to the team. Is it worth our 1st to get Nylander?

Yes. You know what you’re getting. You have less than a fraction of a percent at the lottery. Being the coyotes, it’s never going to happen.

 

[moosemeister]

If we can move Panik for free to some team that needs depth I’m all for sending our first for Nylander

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Hello Yote fans

Just wanted to drop in and ask how the Ex-Hawks are doing?

 

[Mosby]

Yes. You know what you’re getting. You have less than a fraction of a percent at the lottery. Being the coyotes, it’s never going to happen.

Until the year we trade our 1st. It's totally off limits in my mind.

 

[zerekstar]

That is more impressive than I realized. Now to figure out how to add a scorer to the team. Is it worth our 1st to get Nylander?

It may be worth it in the sense that he might be exactly what we need but at the end of the day, I doubt we can afford to give him the contract he wants.

 

[Mosby]

Anaheim re-signs Nick Ritchie, so scratch that idea.

 

[hbk]

I'm okay being patient with things. I know the goals aren't here yet but the tide will change. I like the competitiveness and puck possession game we are playing. I think the goals will even out.

 

[Jamieh]

If we can move Panik for free to some team that needs depth I’m all for sending our first for Nylander

You aren't getting him for your 1st. It's really hard to imagine an offer sheet that could get him without giving up 4 firsts.

 

[moosemeister]

You aren't getting him for your 1st. It's really hard to imagine an offer sheet that could get him without giving up 4 firsts.

K

 

[RemoAZ]

I don't think many of us thought this was a playoff team anyway. We still need a star. Best case scenario looks like we see some progress and take another shot at being disappointed in the lottery. Kind of like buying that Mega Millions ticket. I know I'm not winning buuuuuuuuuuut just in case...

 

[rt]

It’s a great draft.

 

[RemoAZ]

Well even if there are 5 can't miss, generational players, you know we'll draft 6th. We ran Gretsky out of town. That's a 100 year curse sent down by the hockey gods.

 

[lanky]

It's amazing how bad this team would be without so far the 4th best defense and the goaltending they've gotten. PK is also top 5. Fewest shots allowed in the league. 2nd best on faceoffs... Quite the anomaly the Coyotes have going right now.

That's all very promising, considering that OEL, Demers and Goligoski have all underperformed and Chychrun hasn't played yet.

 

[Mosby]

Well even if there are 5 can't miss, generational players, you know we'll draft 6th. We ran Gretsky out of town. That's a 100 year curse sent down by the hockey gods.

Or we pick 6th but pick the premium player ranked 12th.

 

[YotesFan47]

Yes. You know what you’re getting. You have less than a fraction of a percent at the lottery. Being the coyotes, it’s never going to happen.

But I want Kakko

 

[Mosby]

Honestly if we're picking that high in the draft not as a result of a lottery win or some serious injuries this year, I hope Chayka isn't running the draft table.