2018-2019 CHL/NCAA/Euro Prospects Thread III

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  1. dcal64

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    The smaller Boston team got beat by the bigger St.Louis team, thank-you for proving my point. Since we are giving examples, St. Louis, Washington, Boston, LA, Chicago, and all you can come up with is Pittsburgh?
     
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    Well, it's actually Pitts x 3. Chicago's last cup was won against a bigger Boston team. I don't think it's a disadvantage to be bigger, quite clearly they opposite. But, not at the expense of talent and speed.
     
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    Shouldn't we be surprised that the organization gives up on Jarret Tyszka at this point?

    Didn't he show that he could at least be a decent AHLer? I'm confused.
     
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    We have plenty of D in the AHL. If they think the best he could be is an AHLer, he's not needed, unless it's in the ECHL on an AHL deal.
     
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    Agree with the plenty of D in the system argument. Just surprising since MB loves his depth on defense. Probably has to do with the 50-contract limit.
     
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    Exactly!!!

    Thank Baby jesus somebody actually understands this.
     
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    He talked about him and Walford today. Basically said with the 50 contract limit, he wasn't comfortable with signing them instead of someone like Leskinen (he specifically mentioned Leskinen)
     
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    But they had no problem offering contracts to players like Waked and Pezzeta...
     
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    We have more depth at D than at fwd. Waked was a bad signing in hindsight.
     
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    Of course in hindsight we'd trade Walford and Tyszka for Waked and Pezzetta, but back then our prospect pool was a lot more shallow
     
  11. Adam Michaels

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    First, I just want to say that down the stretch last year, Pezzetta - Verbeek - Waked was a solid 4th line that gave opponents fits with their aggressive forecheck and their quickness.

    However, I agree that both Pezzetta and Waked aren't anything special to build with. However, the context I would give you is when they signed them both, the Habs' depth at forward wasn't as deep as it is now.

    When Waked was signed, there was no Poehling or Ikonen in the pipeline. There were Evans and Vejdemo, but they weren't signed so no idea how that would go (seeing as one was in NCAA and the other in Europe).

    When Pezzetta was signed, Poehling and Ikonen were drafted (but not signed), but there was no Ylönen, McShane, Olofsson, Teasdale, Suzuki, Hillis, and Fonstad in the pipeline.

    I'm willing to bet that Waked and Pezzetta won't be back after their ELC's or at the least, would be ECHL depth.

    As for Walford and Tyszka, I would have liked to have them signed. More Tyszka than Walford. But at the time they needed to be signed, there are Ouellet, Olofsson, Sklenicka, and the one who really made them expendable, Leskinen (all on the left side).
     
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    there could be more to the story, as he's had injury problems and that was a bad concussion as he was out 3 months which isn't a good sign to begin with and then he gets a in fight in his first game back. So maybe there was something they didn't like in his medicals, maybe they told him not to fight and he did, maybe they thought he must not be very bright if he's fighting in his first game back from a concussion. Or maybe they just didn't think he progressed enough.

    I liked him and would have signed him due to how thin we are at LD and he's got NHL size, skating, speed, mobility with some offensive upside but needs a good bit of work in his own end. I would have signed him and sent him back to the WHL, a move I'm usually not in favor of as I don't like 20 year olds playing against 18 year olds on average but since he's missed so much time, it wouldn't hurt. But I don't have all the details.
     
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    Can't wait to update this with our new toys
     
  14. Adam Michaels

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    If all stays as is, then ten new toys will be added by tomorrow evening. But I'm betting he will move some picks for extra picks, some for next year's draft.

    Graduated prospects from this thread: Poehling, Suzuki, Primeau, Brook, and Teasdale.

    Discarded prospects from this thread: Walford and Tyszka.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised, you can see it with the decisions made on Walford and Tyszka.. I can imagine one of those 5ths will be gone for one next year.
     
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    Welcome to the Montreal Canadiens, Cole Caufield!
     
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    So with the Habs selecting Cole Caufield, The Habs have another player that will participate at the Summer Showcase.

    Canada: Fonstad & McShane
    USA: Harris & Caufield
    Sweden: Olofsson
     
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    We will drop Waked like we did Bourque if he take on a cap hit for somebody. If not it's one more year and then no Q.O.

    Our contract space has not been issue with MB. It's one of things he's done well.
     
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    I guess the Habs were right not to sign Walford or Tyzska, no team was even willing to waste a 7th round pick to draft them.
     
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    Welcome to the prospect pool, Cole Caufield, Jayden Struble, Matias Norlinder, Gianni Fairbrother, Jacob Leguerrier, Rhett Pitlick, Frederik Dichow Nissen, Arsen Khisamutdinov, Raphaël Harvey-Pinard, and Kieran Ruscheinski.
     
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    That is a real deep prospect pool.

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    So now, the Summer Showcase (July 26th to August 3rd) offers more Habs prospects.

    Canada: McShane & Fonstad
    USA: Caufield, Harris & Struble
    Sweden: Olofsson & Norlinder
     
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    So next season:

    WHL: Cole Fonstad, Gianni Fairbrother
    QMJHL: Samuel Houde, Rafael Harvey-Pinard
    OHL: Allan McShane, Cam Hillis, Jacob LeGuerrier

    Finland: Joni Ikonen, Jesse Ylonen
    Sweden: Jacob Olofsson, Mattias Norlinder, Frederik Nissen
    Russia: Alexander Romanov, Arsen Khisamutdinov

    NCAA

    University of Denver: Brett Stapley
    University of Wisconsin: Jack Gorniak, Cole Caufield
    Northeastern University: Jayden Struble, Jordan Harris

    Other:

    BCHL: Kieran Ruscheinski (Salmon Arm, then NCAA)
    USHL: Rhett Pitlick (Omaha, then to University of Minnesota 2020-2021)

    21 prospects to follow. That's a lot.
     
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    Timmins in his presser said they expect Struble to be at Northeastern this fall. And in his own littler presser, Struble said he's undecided on where he'll go and he's open to anything.
     
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    looks like another big incoming rookie class to Laval in '20-'21 as Hillis, McShane, LeGuerrier, Fonstad, Fairbrother, Harvey-Pinard, Houde, plus any of the Euro's are all eligible to play in Laval. Not that all will be signed but damn that's a lot.
     
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