Line Combos: 2018/19 Line Combinations

[Doyle Hargraves]

I'd be perfectly happy w this, but nothing we've seen suggests we're going to rebuild.

They already are rebuilding

 

[Kryten]

They already are rebuilding

Our 6 draft picks is total proof guys

 

[M2Beezy]

Our 6 draft picks is total proof guys

Not really, rebuilding teams would have like minimum 10 picks, and smarter rebuilding teams would have lots in the first couple a rounds

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Our 6 draft picks is total proof guys

So them trading one fourth round pick in two years is a sign they are not rebuilding? Makes total sense.

I didn’t say they were doing a good job of rebuilding. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is?

 

[hellstick]

Ask me in July.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Not really, rebuilding teams would have like minimum 10 picks, and smarter rebuilding teams would have lots in the first couple a rounds

How are they going to acquire four extra picks Tiger?

Gut the defence and trade both Tanev and Edler?

I am in agreement about acquiring more picks. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine. But you can’t run a d corps over the boards with Derek Pouliott and Alex Biega on your top pair

 

[Black Noise]

How are they going to acquire four extra picks Tiger?

Gut the defence and trade both Tanev and Edler?

I am in agreement about acquiring more picks. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine. But you can’t run a d corps over the boards with Derek Pouliott and Alex Biega on your top pair

Look at what Toronto did with Polak. Signed him in FA, traded him and deadline for a 2 2nds, then signed him again. Why haven't we done that yet?

 

[NoShowWilly]

Look at what Toronto did with Polak. Signed him in FA, traded him and deadline for a 2 2nds, then signed him again. Why haven't we done that yet?

We are going to re-sign sbisa so Seattle can take him in the expansion draft.

 

[kallor]

Assuming there is no significant changes. I can see a lineup similar to this being deployed by Green. Not what I like but what I expect.
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter EP
Granlund Gagner Virtanen
Leipsic Gaudette Goldobin
Gaunce

Sutter and Eriksson will insulate EP allowing him to learn how to play "the right way".

Edler Tanev
Delzotto Stecher
Pouliot Gudbranson

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Too early to speculate imho. We'll see what we're working with after UFA silly season starts.

 

[M2Beezy]

Assuming there is no significant changes. I can see a lineup similar to this being deployed by Green. Not what I like but what I expect.
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter EP
Granlund Gagner Virtanen
Leipsic Gaudette Goldobin
Gaunce

Sutter and Eriksson will insulate EP allowing him to learn how to play "the right way".

Edler Tanev
Delzotto Stecher
Pouliot Gudbranson

So basically destroy Peeteys offense. Great

And that d is the same as last years which was the league worst. That third pairing should be a bottom pair of a average ahl team

 

[Shareefruck]

So them trading one fourth round pick in two years is a sign they are not rebuilding? Makes total sense.

I didn’t say they were doing a good job of rebuilding. Maybe that’s where the disconnect is?

Them losing more picks than they acquire certainly doesn't add up to the idea that they're rebuilding. And what few rumors we hear seem to indicate that they're chasing veteran targets like O'Reilly rather than trying to stockpile picks.

 

[kallor]

So basically destroy Peeteys offense. Great

And that d is the same as last years which was the league worst. That third pairing should be a bottom pair of a average ahl team

I don't see EP as the type of player whose offense depends on others. In a perfect world this team has some quality centers to help ease home into the league but they don't.

They either play him Horvat and risk messing up a good thing established last year with Boeser, or you play him with flawed centers, Sutter or Gagner.

Sutter can win draws and play decent defensive hockey and most importantly skate. Gagner can contribute offensive when played with skilled players.

IMO it is the best of bad options again assuming no significant players are added.

As far as the defense goes, I agree with everything you said but I don't expect change based off of Benning's comments so far.

 

[Shareefruck]

Let me try this again. Ignoring what will probably happen, here's what I would want to see, personally (maybe not right off the bat, but as the season progresses).

FORWARDS

Baertschi - Pettersson - Boeser
Give Pettersson the two best wingers on the team, two guys who are perfectly capable of driving the play on their own and being an effective scoring line even if he falters/struggles, taking the pressure off of him while putting him in a position to excel offensively. Pettersson/Boeser also complement each other perfectly.

Leipsic - Horvat - Goldobin
Horvat is the only guy we have (besides maybe Boeser) who can reliably carry a line by himself, and let's face it, we don't have amazing offensive depth (I think this is the best way of addressing the tricky dilemma mentioned above, personally-- you're kind of damned if you do and damned if you don't). Leipsic is a nice supportive piece, and Goldobin has a great chance to build off of his progress, playing the role that Baertshi previously played.

Gaunce - Gaudette - Virtanen
Personally, I love the way this potentially looks as a 3rd line. Gaudette is comfortably eased into a defensive role early in his career, with Gaunce doing the heavy lifting in terms of suppressing scoring chances, while Virtanen forechecks like a madman. Their roles really fit nicely together, IMO, and I'd like to see Gaunce and Virtanen being a regular duo moving forward..

Granlund - Sutter - Eriksson
Guys who are really frustrating when playing up the lineup who would be luxuries to have simply chipping in from the 4th line.

DEFENSEMAN

Del Zotto - Tanev
Give this pairing by far the highest and most challenging shut-down minutes. Putting defensively questionable and physically underdeveloped rookies on every pairing is suicide. (If Tryamkin ever comes back, replace Del Zotto with him)

Edler - Hughes (or Stecher if he doesn't make the team)
This pairing is stapled to the first line. Hughes dynamically takes over from Stecher's sheltered role while Edler once again does literally all of the heavy lifting.

Juolevi (or Hutton if he doesn't make the team) - Biega
Biega should always be anchoring a sheltered 3rd pairing, showing a young player the ropes and making life easier for them.

GOALIES

Markstrom
Nilsson

I don't expect this team to compete any time soon, so nothing we come up with will be a world-beater, but I quite like the structure and fit of that.

 

[DL44]

If we don't get a UFA middle 6 center, Pettersson it and see how it goes in camp :

Goldy - Horvat - Boeser
Granlund - Sutter - Virtanen
Baertschi - Pettersson - Eriksson
Big UFA-Big UFA- Leipsic-Gagner
Gaunce
Send down Gaudette for big mins.
Maybe Archibald can fill if we can't get a physical NHLer that can skate.

 

[pgj98m3]

Assuming there is no significant changes. I can see a lineup similar to this being deployed by Green. Not what I like but what I expect.
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter EP
Granlund Gagner Virtanen
Leipsic Gaudette Goldobin
Gaunce

Sutter and Eriksson will insulate EP allowing him to learn how to play "the right way".

Edler Tanev
Delzotto Stecher
Pouliot Gudbranson

I don't want Eriksson's "work ethic" anywhere near any of our young players.

 

[Shareefruck]

Sutter and Eriksson don't play the game "the right way", IMO.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i predict that this summer we appear to sign way too many players for the nhl roster. then i predict by december the utica thread guys are complaining that every decent player and prospect down there has been called up to the canucks.

 

[DL44]

I don't want Eriksson's "work ethic" anywhere near any of our young players.

Complain about his scoring contribution... but the guy seems like he's always in the right position.

Needs some luck next year.. Probably led in goal posts hit. Maybe a couple of more creative linemates and few more ozone starts help.

i predict that this summer we appear to sign way too many players for the nhl roster. then i predict by december the utica thread guys are complaining that every decent player and prospect down there has been called up to the canucks.

Might as well predict all our home games will be played at Rogers Arena.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Not what I want, but probably what we'll get. To start off, anyway...

Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser
Eriksson - Gagner - Petersson
Goldoblin - Sutter - Virtanen
Leipsic - Gaunce - Granlund
Motte

Dahlen and Gaudette start in Utica.

 

[Soups On]

It sucks so much to see Sam Gagner still on this team.

 

[theoriginalBCF]

Here is my lineup... I'll explain after

Baerschti -Horvat-Boeser
Virtanen-Gaudette-Pettersson
Gagne-Sutter-Ericksson
Leipsic-Gaunce-Grandlund

Hughes-Tanev
Stetcher-Edler
Juolevi-Del Zotto/Gudbranson

Markstrom
Nillsson

So first line is tested and true. Stick with it
Again, Gaudette plays with a nasty edge, one that will be needed to make space for Pettersson. Add in that Virtanen creates space, and Jake may have just met his perfect line mates. Those boys will not allow him to be roughed up, can skate and get in positions to succeed. If Gaudette is the center they expect him to be, let him play with talent.
Hate the third line but not sure what else to do
Grandlund Leipsic could be a sleeper line. Gaunce should be more effective this season.

Tanev gets the complimentary D man he has always needed
Tried tested and true
Decent 3rd d pairing

Goaltending good enough.

Overall I think we have to look at this from the perspective of interchangable parts. The Canucks could make a line of: Virtanen-Pettersson-Ericksson to see if that helps spark Louie.

Either way that is how I'd structure the lines. I cannot find a spot for Goldobin tbh. I don't think he fits into this lineup, unless he comes in all cylindars flying and steals a job. Demko will be the first call up and will steal the goaltending job by november December. Dahlen, Lind, Gadjovich mature and develop in the AHL as they should.

 

[pgj98m3]

Here is my lineup... I'll explain after

Baerschti -Horvat-Boeser
Virtanen-Gaudette-Pettersson
Gagne-Sutter-Ericksson
Leipsic-Gaunce-Grandlund

Hughes-Tanev
Stetcher-Edler
Juolevi-Del Zotto/Gudbranson

Markstrom
Nillsson

So first line is tested and true. Stick with it
Again, Gaudette plays with a nasty edge, one that will be needed to make space for Pettersson. Add in that Virtanen creates space, and Jake may have just met his perfect line mates. Those boys will not allow him to be roughed up, can skate and get in positions to succeed. If Gaudette is the center they expect him to be, let him play with talent.
Hate the third line but not sure what else to do
Grandlund Leipsic could be a sleeper line. Gaunce should be more effective this season.

Tanev gets the complimentary D man he has always needed
Tried tested and true
Decent 3rd d pairing

Goaltending good enough.

Overall I think we have to look at this from the perspective of interchangable parts. The Canucks could make a line of: Virtanen-Pettersson-Ericksson to see if that helps spark Louie.

Either way that is how I'd structure the lines. I cannot find a spot for Goldobin tbh. I don't think he fits into this lineup, unless he comes in all cylindars flying and steals a job. Demko will be the first call up and will steal the goaltending job by november December. Dahlen, Lind, Gadjovich mature and develop in the AHL as they should.

The third and fourth lines are unbelievably bad....

 

[Horse McHindu]

Leipsic-Horvat-Boeser
Eriksson-Gagner-Pettersson
Goldobin-Gaudette-Virtanen
Baertschi-Sutter-Granlund

Edler-Gudbranson
Hughes-Tanev
Hutton-Stecher (an upgrade of some kind might be required here).

Perhaps Baertschi for a young 3rd pairing defenseman with outside potential to be a 2nd pairing guy one day.

 

[theoriginalBCF]

The third and fourth lines are unbelievably bad....

yes they are...