Prospect Info: 2018-19 Flyers Prospects - Top 30 SKATERS, #8

[CutOnDime97]

Voro because of Rubstov's down year

 

[ajgoal]

Lol. I want him to defend it again!

At least I waited until we got to #8?

 

[pit]

Voro feels like the more surefire NHL'er, but I'm going Rubstov for ceiling. This easily goes either way though.

 

[deadhead]

Got to go with the Pimp.
Rubtsov might be more skilled, but I'm not sure he's more talented.

Vorobyev has size on him, has improved his skating, and has an advanced feel for the passing game. He showed steady improvement in the AHL at age 21, and has the skills to be a solid 3C (30+ ES points a year, above average defense, PK duties).

Rubtsov will have to take a big jump to score more than Vorobyev, though he was the better player at the same age in the MHL, hasn't really progressed offensively since then. Both are smart responsible defensive players, but that's where Vorobyev's size and strength gives him an edge at center.

Now this could switch quickly if Rubtsov hits the ground running in the AHL, or conversely, if Vorobyev wins a NHL job this fall.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

The Flyers prospect pool gets pretty unexciting after the first the first 4-6ish. Even if one or two make the NHL, I don't see much upside.

 

[pit]

The Flyers prospect pool gets pretty unexciting after the first the first 4-6ish. Even if one or two make the NHL, I don't see much upside.

I don't think many prospect pools go deeper than six for exciting prospects. For that matter, I don't think many go as deep as six. We're generally considered one of, if not the deepest, prospect pools in the league currently.

So, yeah, no argument from me on that front with management in the slightest.

 

[Stizzle]

The Flyers prospect pool gets pretty unexciting after the first the first 4-6ish. Even if one or two make the NHL, I don't see much upside.

Ok, someone complaining about the deepest group of prospects in the league. Here we are.

 

[deadhead]

Yeah, because solid 3rd line forwards grow on trees and don't get paid $4-5M a year in free agency.
So guys whose upside is merely 30+ ES points and good defense aren't "sexy."

 

[Garbage Goal]

Vorob, Lac, Morin, Rubstov would have been my order here so I’m just gonna keep with that.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

I don't think many prospect pools go deeper than six for exciting prospects. For that matter, I don't think many go as deep as six. We're generally considered one of, if not the deepest, prospect pools in the league currently.

So, yeah, no argument from me on that front with management in the slightest.

Some prospect pools that are deep with skilled "projects" who are flawed but have room to grow. I don't really see that with the Flyers. Maybe Laczynski, but...

... Probably my biggest issue with the Flyers' drafting is they seem to undervalue skating ability, especially in later rounds. It's arguably the biggest hurdle preventing prolific scorers in lower leagues from succeeding in the NHL, but the scouting staff doesn't seem to care.

Ok, someone complaining about the deepest group of prospects in the league. Here we are.

Laughing at the thought of this being the deepest prospect pool in the league.

 

[Garbage Goal]

Especially with the 2nd round an onward of this years draft I get where he’s coming from. Lots of great depth, but to be honest, Hextall is very hit or miss with how I feel about his picks. He’ll draft a guy like Konecny and even move up to get him then draft guys like Samuel Dove McFalls in later rounds.

If you account for NHL pieces and prospects combined, I’m not sure if there’s a team better than us though so you won’t hear me complaining. At the moment at least.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Ok, someone complaining about the deepest group of prospects in the league. Here we are.

And I completely disagree with his point as well. Having Rubstov as your 8th or 9th best prospect is pretty damn exciting.

 

[David St Hubbins]

That’s right. Time for some big pimpin.

 

[Tripod]

No depth...only 8 former WJC players still left on this list with more to make it this year.

And this doesn't include our goalies where 3 guys have made it.

Dumb people.

 

[Flyerfan13]

The Flyers prospect pool gets pretty unexciting after the first the first 4-6ish. Even if one or two make the NHL, I don't see much upside.

I guess the people at draft analyst care to differ
Flyers Top 20 Prospects – July 2018

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

No depth...only 8 former WJC players still left on this list with more to make it this year.

And this doesn't include our goalies where 3 guys have made it.

Dumb people.

I think the Flyers still have a very good prospect pool overall with a great top 4 in Hart, Frost, Myers, and Farabee (and a wildcard in O'Brien). I don't share people's enthusiasm for Allison and Ratcliffe, although they have some upside at least. But it's not like the Flyers have exceptional depth after that. #7 onward is average at best compared to the rest of the league.

I guess the people at draft analyst care to differ
Flyers Top 20 Prospects – July 2018

FYI, The Draft Analyst doesn't have "people." It's just some random dude without a professional hockey background who runs a low traffic blog.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

went with Vorobyev. A little surprised Morin won the 7th slot in prospect rankings

 

[Tripod]

I think the Flyers still have a very good prospect pool overall with a great top 4 in Hart, Frost, Myers, and Farabee (and a wildcard in O'Brien). I don't share people's enthusiasm for Allison and Ratcliffe, although they have some upside at least. But it's not like the Flyers have exceptional depth after that. #7 onward is average at best compared to the rest of the league.

Nope. Just a bunch of WJC players. 40 goal scorers in Jr. PPG players in Jr. Top college scores. Etc...

Look at Ryan Donato...9 points in 12 games after his college season. Yet Laczynski had a better year than him.

The AMOUNT of depth we have for our prospects is something few can compete with. It's actually our lack of a top 1-2 guys compared to others. Mostly because Patrick for example is in the NHL compared to the rest of the draft class who are still prospects.

 

[deadhead]

Frost is chopped liver? Hart isn't the top goalie prospect in the world?
So we lack a top 1-2 guys?

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Nope. Just a bunch of WJC players. 40 goal scorers in Jr. PPG players in Jr. Top college scores. Etc...

Look at Ryan Donato...9 points in 12 games after his college season. Yet Laczynski had a better year than him.

The AMOUNT of depth we have for our prospects is something few can compete with. It's actually our lack of a top 1-2 guys compared to others. Mostly because Patrick for example is in the NHL compared to the rest of the draft class who are still prospects.

Who cares if they played in the WJC? It has absolutely no impact on their potential.

And in what universe did Laczynski have a better year that Donato? Donato had one of the best points per game in college hockey with little help from his teammates. That's an absurd statement. What's more, Donato can actually skate.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Who cares if they played in the WJC? It has absolutely no impact on their potential.

And in what universe did Laczynski have a better year that Donato? Donato had one of the best points per game in college hockey with little help from his teammates. That's an absurd statement. What's more, Donato can actually skate.

Laczynski is full year younger. I think @Tripod was saying that Laczynski was better this year than Donato was last year.

Laczynski can skate.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Laczynski is full year younger. I think @Tripod was saying that Laczynski was better this year than Donato was last year.

Laczynski can skate.

I'm not sure is worse: Thinking Laczynski was better than Donato this year, or arguing that Laczynski is a better prospect because development is linear.

Also not well.

 

[Magua]

I’m bored on a Friday night too. I get it.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Who cares if they played in the WJC? It has absolutely no impact on their potential.

And in what universe did Laczynski have a better year that Donato? Donato had one of the best points per game in college hockey with little help from his teammates. That's an absurd statement. What's more, Donato can actually skate.

What the hell are you looking for as the 9th best skater in the pipeline? Which team has a stud this far down?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Went Laczynski again.

Rubtsov getting that many votes blows my mind.