2017 NHL Draft (Mod warning Post #736)

[y2kcanucks]

I would be happy with Mittelstadt, Vilardi, and am coming around on Liljegren and Tippett. Tolvanen is looking solid too.

 

[BerSTUzzi]

I would be happy with Mittelstadt, Vilardi, and am coming around on Liljegren and Tippett. Tolvanen is looking solid too.

Tippett will scare the **** out a few people on this board as he plays a lot like Virtanen. The one thing he does that Virtanen did not in junior is plays a lot harder shift to shift.

 

[Mr Plow]

That would explain why he's sometimes referred to as "Nikita A. Popugayev"



I hope Feebster is doing well, I haven't seen him post here in a while

Not to get tooo creepy here but I checked his Twitter and, while he's not tweeting anymore, he's still liking other people's tweets every once in a while. I hope he's doing well too, he was my favorite poster to read back when I was still just a lurker here.

 

[jigsaw99]

Tippett will scare the **** out a few people on this board as he plays a lot like Virtanen. The one thing he does that Virtanen did not in junior is plays a lot harder shift to shift.

sounds like a Bennings pick

 

[Josepho]

Virtanen + a stronger work ethic - injury problems - poor development - a bit of physicality is roughly equal to Tippett.

That's not a bad player at all. Definitely not who I'd actively want, but it's not the worst case scenario.

 

[Midwest Hockey Nut]

Tippett will scare the **** out a few people on this board as he plays a lot like Virtanen. The one thing he does that Virtanen did not in junior is plays a lot harder shift to shift.

Tippett is more skilled than Virtanen

 

[Caser]

On the topic of Popugayev, I was scrolling through this thread and realized that I forgot to reply to this.



This is a different Nikita Popugayev who is 5'8". The one in NA isn't exactly a speedster.

The big Popugaev was the one, who won that skating contest, not the small one.

 

[BerSTUzzi]

Tippett is more skilled than Virtanen

Fair but his best attributes are skating, shot, bulling through defenders and has a bit of a Cy Young scoring line. I was just suggesting people may panic on the thought of another Virtanen-like player.

 

[Josepho]

The big Popugaev was the one, who won that skating contest, not the small one.

Really? The guy in that video doesn't look big at all and Popugayev has never showed anything close to speed like that in the 5 or so games I've seen of him. I shouldn't have said that in absolute since I wasn't exactly sure, but I'll trust you.

I've learned that speed competitions don't necessarily make you fast after watching Pedan last year.

 

[Caser]

Really? The guy in that video doesn't look big at all and Popugayev has never showed anything close to speed like that in the 5 or so games I've seen of him. I shouldn't have said that in absolute since I wasn't exactly sure, but I'll trust you.

I've learned that speed competitions don't necessarily make you fast after watching Pedan last year.

So to make sure we're talking about the right guy, he is in the video below at 3:16 (#70):



Just by the look, I'd say he was very good at turns there, but other guys were faster than him at accelerating on the straight parts.

 

[Evolu7ion]

My top 5 at this point:

1A. Patrick
1B. Hischier

3. Mittelstadt

4A. Liljegren
4B. Petterson

 

[DL44]

Who are we hoping falls or will likely be there at 13-16 range?

 

[y2kcanucks]

Who are we hoping falls or will likely be there at 13-16 range?

Canucks aren't likely to pick that low, but in that range I would be looking at Matthew Strome, Cal Foote, or perhaps Cody Glass.

 

[DL44]

Canucks aren't likely to pick that low, but in that range I would be looking at Matthew Strome, Cal Foote, or perhaps Cody Glass.

More likely than you're willing to admit

 

[y2kcanucks]

More likely than you're willing to admit

Not really. I would be shocked if we made a trade and acquired a pick in that range.

Though walking out of the draft with someone like Vilardi and Strome, or Mittelstadt and Foote would be nice.

I trust the Kelowna Rockets and their defensive factory. Foote could be the next on a long list of defenseman who have had good NHL careers coming out of Kelowna.

 

[DL44]

Not really. I would be shocked if we made a trade and acquired a pick in that range.

Though walking out of the draft with someone like Vilardi and Strome, or Mittelstadt and Foote would be nice.

I trust the Kelowna Rockets and their defensive factory. Foote could be the next on a long list of defenseman who have had good NHL careers coming out of Kelowna.

heh...
Ok.. let's assume Benning trades the 5th overall pick for someone's 15th..
How deep is this draft in forwards and how deep is it in dman?

i.e. will we be chosing between the 11th or 12th best forward vs the 3rd or 4th best dman?
or
visa versa
or
do ya think we would be choosing between the 7th/8th best forward vs the 7th/8th best dman?

(i know NOTHING of this draft class yet)

 

[Evolu7ion]

Cale Makar and and Lias Andersson are two guys that realistically could be there at 13-16 that I'd target. Makar is a dynamic skating OFD, Andersson is a crafty versatile TWF.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Cale Makar and and Lias Andersson are two guys that realistically could be there at 13-16 that I'd target. Makar is a dynamic skating OFD, Andersson is a crafty versatile TWF.

Valimaki is also another defenseman who has snuck up the charts.

It looks to me like the first 7 picks are mostly forwards (6) and one defenseman (Liljegren), then the next grouping has mostly defensemen and a few forwards.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Not really. I would be shocked if we made a trade and acquired a pick in that range.

Though walking out of the draft with someone like Vilardi and Strome, or Mittelstadt and Foote would be nice.

I trust the Kelowna Rockets and their defensive factory. Foote could be the next on a long list of defenseman who have had good NHL careers coming out of Kelowna.

Admittedly know little about dmen but I like foote. Needs to be more aggressive defensively sometimes but reminds me a lot of Braydon coburn.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Admittedly know little about dmen but I like foote. Needs to be more aggressive defensively sometimes but reminds me a lot of Braydon coburn.

Just started reading up on Makar...very intriguing prospect.

 

[Tryforthekingdom]

heh...
Ok.. let's assume Benning trades the 5th overall pick for someone's 15th..
How deep is this draft in forwards and how deep is it in dman?

i.e. will we be chosing between the 11th or 12th best forward vs the 3rd or 4th best dman?
or
visa versa
or
do ya think we would be choosing between the 7th/8th best forward vs the 7th/8th best dman?

(i know NOTHING of this draft class yet)

Definitely the first. I would say Liljegren is still the only D-man I feel is a lock to go in the top-15 while the other top D-men are a little more volatile. That said, there's still going to be 3 or 4 in the first half of the first round, the question is more who will they be. After Liljegren, I could see any of Hague, Foote, Makar, Heiskanen, or Valimaki going in that range.

 

[Tank]

I think there are some good prospects in the top 15 where we likely will be drafting as long as we draft high skill I am pleased. It will likely be a forward because I feel Liljegrin is the only high skill defenseman I would take. He and OJ would be a great building block for out future that is hard to get. I don't know about you guys but I feel so much better about our drafting as long as they leave it in the hands of Bracket and Palango they seem to be getting us the prospects we have not been able to get in the previous drafts with Crawford and delorme. One or two more strong drafts could get us back to competing consistently.I have always felt good about Ontario but now with Brackett US looks like a strength too. If we want strong scouting in two regions they are the two for me. Now about the west.....

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Cale Makar and and Lias Andersson are two guys that realistically could be there at 13-16 that I'd target. Makar is a dynamic skating OFD, Andersson is a crafty versatile TWF.

With how this draft is projecting I'm no longer confident Makar will be there in the 13-16 range. Possible top 10 pick atm.

 

[me2]

Who are we hoping falls or will likely be there at 13-16 range?

Patrick or Hischier.

 

[vancityluongo]

Cale Makar and and Lias Andersson are two guys that realistically could be there at 13-16 that I'd target. Makar is a dynamic skating OFD, Andersson is a crafty versatile TWF.

Yeah I like those two as well just from scouting reports. Would prefer a forward, but Makar is very intriguing.