2016 2nd OA in a Re-draft
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McAvoy for me for sure. Already a number 1 and more proven than Fox, though Fox could pass him (though if it's an actual redraft the fact he might leave would be a factor). I don't think any of the others are the same level of franchise building blocks.
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He's been doing what longer? He's not had a single season better than Fox's rookie season. So he's going before Fox because he has played more games?
Being a #1 defenseman. If you want to judge defenseman by purely points you can do that.
McAvoy actually outscored Fox at 5v5, this year and last year. Fox is incredible on the PP though, I won't take that away from him. But that's the main difference in scoring between the two, Fox gets double the PP time and gets #1 pp minutes on the Rangers, McAvoy doesn't.
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McAvoy has been a top two or three defenseman this season. Fox is very good and a #1 himself but not quite the same level.
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Was expecting to have to think a bit but it's obviously McAvoy at this point.
Maybe he'll turn it around someday but there's no way Laine is in the running here. He hasn't hit 40 goals in years and that's his only big contribution to his team. There's many better players.
Maybe he'll turn it around someday but there's no way Laine is in the running here. He hasn't hit 40 goals in years and that's his only big contribution to his team. There's many better players.
His every season has been better than Fox's rookie season (and this season). He has the best WAR out of any defenceman in the NHL in the past 3 seasons while playing the toughest minutes in the league.
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Just like last year when Shesterykin should've won the Vezina off of 12 games and was about to be the next Hasek, right?...
And Shesterkin is still one of the best young goalies in the league and is probably playing better than Hank was at this point in his career. What's your point?
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I've seen them both play and Shesterkin isn't really playing at a level below him most of this season. He's just been injured and hasn't been winning like Lundqvist. In fact some of my frustrations with Shesterkin were issues with Lundqvist early on too. Both players had trouble getting shutouts and would give up more goals in the third than I'd like. Shesterkin has a 0.924 save %, btw. Not sure how "just like Shesterkin was supposed to be a Vezina winner" is a burn. 0.924 is damn good. This isn't Carter Hart we're talking about.
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Best goal scorer this decade is Auston Matthews with 22.
This being the first season of the 20's.
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Gee, that's weird!!!
Yeah, let's use advanced stats as an argument against Adam Fox. 10/10 would have such an idea again.
That generational goal scorer has 1 more goal than Tkachuk in his last 3 seasons. He also had to have a pretty good player added to him to get another guy he is competing with for 2nd overall. At this point id say there is a better chance he goes outside of the top 5 than #2, but like all redrafts that could change by this time next year.
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There's no reason that anyone from that draft goes ahead of Matthews then or today.
At this point it’s entirely up to what a team needs. If you need defense you have the choice of the steadying force in Mcavoy or a great offensive quarterback in Fox (not saying either of them isn’t great at the others aspect). For forwards I think you take Tkachuk unless your team is in dire need of a centre, then you grab Dubois.
For a more controversial opinion, I think their are two defined tiers after Matthews with the players being pretty much equal in them.
Mcavoy/Fox/Tkachuk
Dubois/Sergachev/Chychrun
I also think Chychrun is one of the most underrated D in the league and would be in that top tier if he didn’t play for Arizona to add to the controversy.
For a more controversial opinion, I think their are two defined tiers after Matthews with the players being pretty much equal in them.
Mcavoy/Fox/Tkachuk
Dubois/Sergachev/Chychrun
I also think Chychrun is one of the most underrated D in the league and would be in that top tier if he didn’t play for Arizona to add to the controversy.
