Salary Cap: 2016-17 Roster Building XXVIII | Trade Deadline Approaches

[ColePens]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2016-17 salary ceiling​

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​

|

73,000,000​

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Pens' projected spending |

77,495,250​

Approx. LTIR cushion |

7,050,000​

Deadline cap space |

903,231​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

30​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

29​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

29​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

28​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

37​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

RW​

|

31​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

28​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

40​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

|

22​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

|

27​

|

612,500​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

29​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

27​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Ron Hainsey|

D​

|

35​

|

1,416,667​

|

UFA​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

26​

|

1,400,000​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

25​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

32​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

22​

|

620,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

RFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

22​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

37​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

33​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

24​

|

667,500​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

24​

|

640,000​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

|

22​

|

742,500​

|

742,500​

|

RFA​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

22​

|

700,833​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

22​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

24​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

22​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

22​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

24​

|

730,000​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Stuart Percy|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

WHEELING NAILERS

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

19​

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Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

2 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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​

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Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

|

18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

|

19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

21​

|Maine (HEA)

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

|

18​

|Luleå HF (SHL)

Connor Hall|

D​

|

18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

22​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

22​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[JTG]

I'm not for paying the price of the deadline usually - this year is really the exception for me. We're so close that it's worth it. It's not like in the Shero years where those teams weren't going to win no matter what he did because we lacked the depth. We have the depth, we have the goaltending. We just need to get healthy. If I'm Mario, I'm telling JR to do whatever he has to do. Trade all the picks. Trade all the prospects. Go get a top 6 winger. Go get a top 4 defenseman. Bring back guys with term. Rent players. Just go get it.

 

[drpepper]

So is this constant "trade Maatta" actually coming from somewhere in or around the organization? Or is it just this board's wishful thinking?

 

[thecore]

I'm not for paying the price of the deadline usually - this year is really the exception for me. We're so close that it's worth it. It's not like in the Shero years where those teams weren't going to win no matter what he did because we lacked the depth. We have the depth, we have the goaltending. We just need to get healthy. If I'm Mario, I'm telling JR to do whatever he has to do. Trade all the picks. Trade all the prospects. Go get a top 6 winger. Go get a top 4 defenseman. Bring back guys with term. Rent players. Just go get it.

There's still a balance to be had, but overall I agree with you.

 

[wgknestrick]

So is this constant "trade Maatta" actually coming from somewhere in or around the organization? Or is it just this board's wishful thinking?

Stupidity on this board. Olli has some of the best 5v5 stats of all D men since entering the league and people want to bail on him before DP has even earned an NHL spot. He's not anywhere near his prime and is relatively cheap. He also plays the toughest minutes (most D zone starts) on the team. He's an incredible goal preventer.

He got beat a couple of times, so he sucks now. Just like Lovejoy, Gogo, Nisky, etc.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

So is this constant "trade Maatta" actually coming from somewhere in or around the organization? Or is it just this board's wishful thinking?

We probably have to trade a top for D because of expansion + big names like Duchene being available mostly.

 

[DegenX]

So is this constant "trade Maatta" actually coming from somewhere in or around the organization? Or is it just this board's wishful thinking?

It is coming from somewhere in and around the organization, but no 'official' channels. That's why you'll see certain posts carefully worded if there is no media source to link to. The site maintains a list of vetted insiders, and then mods from individual boards, like ours, can also allow those that haven't been vetted to post information if they've been proven to be reliable.

The thought is that the team will protect 7F/3D/1G in the upcoming expansion draft. Letang and Schultz will be protected, so that leaves the choice between Maatta and Dumo. Performance wise, Dumo fits the system better. Also, when he is re-signed it should be for less than Maatta is currently making, which with the cap projected to remain flat makes it more likely he'll be the third D. The team obviously doesn't want to lose Maatta for nothing, so he's the logical choice to move. That's the current thought, anyway. Things can and do change.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Agreed, JTG. This team isn't in the position the Shero teams were where it was a couple of all-world guys and a bunch of nobodies. The good news is, I think JR knows that. It's not an all-in for no reason situation, it's a legitimate all-in for a chance to win a Cup year after year now. I think if JR thinks he can land someone like Duchene, he'll part with the pieces to make it happen.

 

[JTG]

Agreed, JTG. This team isn't in the position the Shero teams were where it was a couple of all-world guys and a bunch of nobodies. The good news is, I think JR knows that. It's not an all-in for no reason situation, it's a legitimate all-in for a chance to win a Cup year after year now. I think if JR thinks he can land someone like Duchene, he'll part with the pieces to make it happen.

JR made a comment about contracts and such and it went something like, "We'll worry about 2021 when 2021 comes."

 

[JTG]

And what JR does with Schultz, Dumoulin, and Sheary this offseason will have a lot to do with how 2021 goes. If he can keep all of those guys at reasonable numbers, we'll be set.

All 3 are in like to get PAID.

 

[Empoleon8771]

And what JR does with Schultz, Dumoulin, and Sheary this offseason will have a lot to do with how 2021 goes. If he can keep all of those guys at reasonable numbers, we'll be set.

All 3 are in like to get PAID.

I'm thinking Schultz gets like $4.5 million on a 3 year deal, Sheary gets like $3.5 million on a 4 year deal (similar deal to the Johnson/Palat/Kucherov deals) and Dumoulin gets like $3 million per on a 5 year deal. I think those are all pretty reasonable numbers to get 2 top-4 D and a top-6 winger.

 

[pistolpete11]

I'm thinking Schultz gets like $4.5 million on a 3 year deal, Sheary gets like $3.5 million on a 4 year deal (similar deal to the Johnson/Palat/Kucherov deals) and Dumoulin gets like $3 million per on a 5 year deal. I think those are all pretty reasonable numbers to get 2 top-4 D and a top-6 winger.

You think they will be able to get Dumo that cheap for that long? That would be awesome, but I think it would be for fewer years or more money.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You think they will be able to get Dumo that cheap for that long? That would be awesome, but I think it would be for fewer years or more money.

I don't think he has the offensive game to get much more than that. The dude doesn't have a regular season goal in the last 2 seasons. Now, if he would have repeated what he did in the playoffs last year for this season, I could totally see him breaking the bank. However, he hasn't had a strong season this year overall.

Maybe chop off a year or two, but I'm struggling to see him getting much more than $3 or $3.5 million. I think it's more likely he takes a 2 year bridge deal at like $2.5 million per than it is for him to get a Maatta-like contract.

 

[Crosbyfan]

Stupidity on this board. Olli has some of the best 5v5 stats of all D men since entering the league and people want to bail on him before DP has even earned an NHL spot. He's not anywhere near his prime and is relatively cheap. He also plays the toughest minutes (most D zone starts) on the team. He's an incredible goal preventer.

He got beat a couple of times, so he sucks now. Just like Lovejoy, Gogo, Nisky, etc.

There, certainly, is something to be said for that but that is his strength. An O zone start he is facing a potential rush.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Stupidity on this board. Olli has some of the best 5v5 stats of all D men since entering the league and people want to bail on him before DP has even earned an NHL spot. He's not anywhere near his prime and is relatively cheap. He also plays the toughest minutes (most D zone starts) on the team. He's an incredible goal preventer.

He got beat a couple of times, so he sucks now. Just like Lovejoy, Gogo, Nisky, etc.

All of this ignores that the expansion draft is coming up which means difficult decisions will need to be made on the personnel front, and discussions about trading Maatta are usually in the context of getting back Duchene.

Nobody's talking about moving Maatta for a pittance because they think he stinks.

 

[JTG]

I'm thinking Schultz gets like $4.5 million on a 3 year deal, Sheary gets like $3.5 million on a 4 year deal (similar deal to the Johnson/Palat/Kucherov deals) and Dumoulin gets like $3 million per on a 5 year deal. I think those are all pretty reasonable numbers to get 2 top-4 D and a top-6 winger.

I've pegged Schultz at 5 years 20 million. Dumoulin at 5 years 18 million. Sheary 4 years 14 million. I think those are all fair deals, it definitely keeps us competitive, and it keeps all 3 tradeable.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

To be fair, your argument would hold more water if you didn't stop at "he got beat a couple times," and finished the thought--"he got beat a couple times every game."

 

[pistolpete11]

I don't think he has the offensive game to get much more than that. The dude doesn't have a regular season goal in the last 2 seasons. Now, if he would have repeated what he did in the playoffs last year for this season, I could totally see him breaking the bank. However, he hasn't had a strong season this year overall.

Maybe chop off a year or two, but I'm struggling to see him getting much more than $3 or $3.5 million. I think it's more likely he takes a 2 year bridge deal at like $2.5 million per than it is for him to get a Maatta-like contract.

I agree he won't get Maatta's deal because of his lock of offense, but I was thinking like $3Mx3 or $3.5Mx4.

 

[Shrimper]

And what JR does with Schultz, Dumoulin, and Sheary this offseason will have a lot to do with how 2021 goes. If he can keep all of those guys at reasonable numbers, we'll be set.

All 3 are in like to get PAID.

JR - 5 years @ $4.5m
Dumoulin - 4 years @ $3.5m
Sheary - 2 years @ $3m

My guess. Bridge for Sheary

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Sens Aggressively Pursuing Veteran Forward

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2194955

C'mon JR.

Drain the Swamp! Drain the Swamp!

 

[hagelin1381]

Sens Aggressively Pursuing Veteran Forward

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2194955

C'mon JR.

Drain the Swamp! Drain the Swamp!

not a chance it happens sadly

 

[WayneSid9987]

Thx Degen.

It’s believed the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins, who are headed for a playoff showdown in the East if history repeats itself, have both held talks with the Blues about the possibility of acquiring Shattenkirk.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/02/25/last-minute-nhl-deals-to-be-expected

Other tidbits in there as well.

 

[SEALBound]

Sens Aggressively Pursuing Veteran Forward

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2194955

C'mon JR.

Drain the Swamp! Drain the Swamp!

We all know who we want to go...sadly...I doubt it happens.

However, Fehr could be an option. Wonder if tacking on a 3rd to Fehr would get Lazar...

 

[Empoleon8771]

I agree he won't get Maatta's deal because of his lock of offense, but I was thinking like $3Mx3 or $3.5Mx4.

Yeah I think those are around right. I think the last one would be pretty solid for both sides, that's probably what I'd shoot for with trying to get lower.

I've pegged Schultz at 5 years 20 million. Dumoulin at 5 years 18 million. Sheary 4 years 14 million. I think those are all fair deals, it definitely keeps us competitive, and it keeps all 3 tradeable.

I think that's low for Schultz and a little high for Dumoulin, but the AAVs probably add up to what they'll actually end up making. I'd be surprised for Schultz to get below $4.75 million on a long term deal and surprised for Dumoulin to get above $3.5 million on any sort of deal.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Stupidity on this board. Olli has some of the best 5v5 stats of all D men since entering the league and people want to bail on him before DP has even earned an NHL spot. He's not anywhere near his prime and is relatively cheap. He also plays the toughest minutes (most D zone starts) on the team. He's an incredible goal preventer.

He got beat a couple of times, so he sucks now. Just like Lovejoy, Gogo, Nisky, etc.

Maybe you haven't heard of this little annoyance coming up called the expansion draft....