Salary Cap: 2016-17 Roster Building XXIII | Insert Witty Thread Title Here

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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2016-17 salary ceiling​

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​

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73,000,000​

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Pens' projected spending |

76,114,806​

Approx. LTIR cushion |

3,750,000​

Deadline cap space |

903,231​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

30​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

29​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

29​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

28​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

37​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

RW​

|

31​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

28​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

40​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

24​

|

667,500​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

24​

|

640,000​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

29​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

22​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

33​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

27​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

26​

|

1,400,000​

|

RFA​

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

32​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

22​

|

620,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

37​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

25​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

|

22​

|

742,500​

|

742,500​

|

RFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

|

22​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

22​

|

700,833​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

22​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

24​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

|

27​

|

612,500​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

22​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Danny Kristo|

RW​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

22​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

24​

|

730,000​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Stuart Percy|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

|

2016-17​

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2017-18​

|

2018-19​

WHEELING NAILERS

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

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19​

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Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

2 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

|

18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

|

19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

21​

|Maine (HEA)

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

|

18​

|Luleå HF (SHL)

Connor Hall|

D​

|

18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

22​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

22​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[Speaking Moistly]

I think Hags is getting underrated here. His arrival solidified our "speed" identity, and his two-way versatility improves our PK and any line he's on.

The Rags thought he'd be easily replaced too. He wasn't.

I'm not saying he's necessarily more valuable than Dumo/Maatta, but I believe it's close enough to make it a tough decision. Then again, players' stock fluctuates pretty wildly around here. Maatta was persona non grata not too long ago.

I think as well as he fits, he's still a tweener winger and that's always going to be less valuable than a top 4 D. This is also a team that needs PMDs as well, they have increased value for this team just like Hagelin does. Adding Daley was huge last season and having Schultz has been huge this season; we know what happens when the defense can't move the puck and we know how fragile Letang is. I'd rather keep him than lose him, but I'd rather keep the top 4 defensemen more. They have Rust now and Guentzel in the AHL whereas the D replacement is Cole. I want to bribe Vegas more than anything but if it came down to it I'm guaranteeing the top 4 is set.

I didn't do the "trade Maatta for a 7th!!!!!!! Bad contract!!!!" freakout.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think Hags is getting underrated here. His arrival solidified our "speed" identity, and his two-way versatility improves our PK and any line he's on.

The Rags thought he'd be easily replaced too. He wasn't.

I'm not saying he's necessarily more valuable than Dumo/Maatta, but I believe it's close enough to make it a tough decision. Then again, players' stock fluctuates pretty wildly around here. Maatta was persona non grata not too long ago.

Hags should be kept if at all possible for sure.

Maatta has definitely impressed me this year. And DP disappointing really changes my opinion on our ability to move Maatta.

As a team in short term contention, I would have no problem with us overpaying Vegas on a bribe in terms of a draft pick if it keeps our key players here now. I'd rather give away our presumably late first and lose Fehr than lose any of Hags, Horny, Rust, Dumo, Maatta, Sundqvist, or Schultz right now.

 

[Peat]

I don't want to lose Hagelin. He's a pretty useful guy.

But I really don't want to lose our top 4. Assuming these guys are considered top 4 at the end of the season, which seems fairly safe.

 

[ColePens]

Comparing the worth of both Hags/Hornqvist is near impossible. Hags, at his absolute worst, is giving us a great forecheck/backcheck. Hornqivst, at his worst, is still our best net-front guy that we desperately needed for years.

Unless you can come up with a plan to replace what they do, they shouldn't be moved. WC is the only one who at least brought an idea to the table that would replace one of them, even though it's highly unlikely.

 

[Jacob]

We're just going to have to bribe LV, it's as simple as that. I'd go as high as a second round pick plus a non-essential prospect for draft assurances.

 

[Penske]

We're just going to have to bribe LV, it's as simple as that. I'd go as high as a second round pick plus a non-essential prospect for draft assurances.

I posted something before about trading Dumoulin (plus something small) for Mantha and Smith. Mantha with Sid would be great and add to a powerful forward group. Smith can still be serviceable in the top 4 (and I think Detroit are looking to move him and they want young D). Or a similar type deal with another team.

We can protect Schultz and won't need to spend any assets in bribing. I'd say one of Bonino, Daley or Smith get signed by Vegas.

 

[Jacob]

Wouldn't Mantha need protected?

 

[Penske]

Wouldn't Mantha need protected?

Yeah. Crosby, Geno, Kessel, Hags, Horny, Mantha, Rust.

Letang, Maatta, Schultz

 

[Jacob]

They'd take Sundqvist.

 

[Shady Machine]

Maybe Cole. The draft is going to necessitate that we lose someone pretty valuable, and this deal would make it easier to go with 7F and 3D.

As much as I like Horny, he's only signed for a year after this one, and we should be wary about giving him a big money extension. Landeskog would take care of that.

You must value Dumo less than I do. We have no replacement for him. He's really valuable.

 

[Ogrezilla]

You must value Dumo less than I do. We have no replacement for him. He's really valuable.

I think a part of his thinking is that we may lose one of our D-men or a guy like Hags/Horny in the expansion draft anyway. Trading Maatta or Dumo would be an option to avoid that without resorting to a bribe by replacing the 4th D with a 7th F. If we don't think we can bribe Vegas away from taking one of those guys, then I guess a move like this could make sense.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I think a part of his thinking is that we may lose one of our D-men or a guy like Hags/Horny in the expansion draft anyway. Trading Maatta or Dumo would be an option to avoid that without resorting to a bribe by replacing the 4th D with a 7th F. If we don't think we can bribe Vegas away from taking one of those guys, then I guess a move like this could make sense.

Yeah. I mean, I hope we can bribe LV to suit our ends, but I'm sure a lot of teams want to do that. If LV is serious about wanting to ice a competitive team right away, I can't imagine they're going to take bribes from every team that wants to make them.

 

[Jacob]

Cool feature taking the recent replies to the last thread to this one.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Yeah. I mean, I hope we can bribe LV to suit our ends, but I'm sure a lot of teams want to do that. If LV is serious about wanting to ice a competitive team right away, I can't imagine they're going to take bribes from every team that wants to make them.

it'll be fine when nice guy Fleury waives his NMC

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

it'll be fine when nice guy Fleury waives his NMC

 

[Shady Machine]

I think a part of his thinking is that we may lose one of our D-men or a guy like Hags/Horny in the expansion draft anyway. Trading Maatta or Dumo would be an option to avoid that without resorting to a bribe by replacing the 4th D with a 7th F. If we don't think we can bribe Vegas away from taking one of those guys, then I guess a move like this could make sense.

I guess that makes sense. If Schultz keeps up his play, I think I'd rather go 4d route and let the chips fall. Bribe Vegas to not lose Hagelin and then they take Rust. I love Rusty but he's not early as important as a young top 4 dman.

 

[Peat]

I guess that makes sense. If Schultz keeps up his play, I think I'd rather go 4d route and let the chips fall. Bribe Vegas to not lose Hagelin and then they take Rust. I love Rusty but he's not early as important as a young top 4 dman.

I think I'd rather lose Hagelin than Rust tbh. Rust is younger, cheaper, supposedly more versatile and scores more goals. Maybe he isn't quite as good at Hagelin as being Hagelin but I think he makes up for it with the other stuff.

I'm just gonna pray for the miracle 7+3 with them taking a bribe not to take Schultz. In magic land that bribe somehow turns out to be Fleury but, you know, not happening.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

Yeah. I mean, I hope we can bribe LV to suit our ends, but I'm sure a lot of teams want to do that. If LV is serious about wanting to ice a competitive team right away, I can't imagine they're going to take bribes from every team that wants to make them.

It would need to be a combination of exposing an asset with some problem, be it lack of control for very long, unwillingness to sign in Vegas, etc, with a nice bribe from us. If they want Schultz, for example, and his agent tells them he's not signing there past his 1 remaining RFA year, and we offer a 1st, then it's more than likely they take Rust or Fehr or MAF or whoever we do expose, and go on about their business.

Ideas of trading Dumo make my head hurt. I'd rather give them our late 1st than give up a guy we pretty much need, given his ability and the likelihood we can snag him for somewhere around 3m a year.

I just don't value that 1st round pick all that much, especially in what some are saying isn't a very strong draft.

 

[Ogrezilla]

If we are exposing Schultz, we certainly shouldn't also be exposing Rust. He's easily in our top 7 forwards to protect.

And Schultz is definitely playing well enough to get him in the conversation of being more valuable than Dumo or Maatta to us. I don't like it, but I think we're in protect 4D territory.

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I guess that makes sense. If Schultz keeps up his play, I think I'd rather go 4d route and let the chips fall. Bribe Vegas to not lose Hagelin and then they take Rust. I love Rusty but he's not early as important as a young top 4 dman.

It'd probably be cheaper/easier to protect Hags and bribe them not to take Horny. How much value does a guy with one year on his deal have to an expansion team?

 

[Ogrezilla]

It'd probably be cheaper/easier to protect Hags and bribe them not to take Horny. How much value does a guy with one year on his deal have to an expansion team?

I would think a lot. Horny would almost certainly be top prize at the deadline. So let him help hit the cap floor, give them some experience, get a good powerplay guy, then likely trade him for a 1st in March.

 

[ColePens]

Sadly anyone watching this game now really wants Mantha

 

[AjaxTelamon]

If we are exposing Schultz, we certainly shouldn't also be exposing Rust. He's easily in our top 7 forwards to protect.

And Schultz is definitely playing well enough to get him in the conversation of being more valuable than Dumo or Maatta to us. I don't like it, but I think we're in protect 4D territory.

With a team as deep as we are, that will definitely mean losing OS, Hags, or Rust, I guess. That's rough. They'd take Hagelin in a second.

I'd much rather come up with a strategy / agreement with Vegas not to take that 4th D man. I value all of those assets above as much as that 1st rounder, probably including Rust (on 1 more year of his ultra-cheap deal).

 

[Penske]

Sadly anyone watching this game now really wants Mantha

He's having a really good game I take it. He's played really well since being put with Zetterberg (small sample size though).