Salary Cap: 2016-17 roster-building part XVI | Contract/FA charts, cap info in post #1

[ColePens]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2016-17 salary ceiling​

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​

|

73,000,000​

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​

Pens' projected spending |

76,299,999​

Approx. LTIR cushion |

3,750,000​

Approx. cap space |

450,001​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

30​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

28​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

28​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

27​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

36​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

RW​

|

30​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

28​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

39​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

22​

|

700,833​

|

RFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

24​

|

667,500​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

24​

|

640,000​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

29​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

21​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

32​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

27​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

26​

|

1,400,000​

|

RFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

22​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

24​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

31​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

22​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

37​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Jake Guentzel|

C​

|

21​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

21​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

21​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

23​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

|

26​

|

612,500​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

22​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

23​

|

730,000​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

|

26​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Stuart Percy|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

24​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

25​

|

3,900,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $1.4M)

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

32​

|

1,100,000​

| Signed with New Jersey (3 years, $2.67M per)

Tyler Biggs|

RW​

|

23​

|

894,167​

|Hard to imagine why Brian Burke isn't a GM any more

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

39​

|

800,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $1M)

Matthias Plachta|

RW​

|

25​

|

743,000​

| Signed with Adler Mannheim (DEL)

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

23​

|

650,833​

|Scratched for majority of the season in WBS

James Melindy|

D​

|

22​

|

641,667​

| Signed with Wichita (ECHL)

Dan O'Donoghue|

LW​

|

25​

|

635,000​

|Empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

28​

|

625,000​

| Signed with Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg (KHL)

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

23​

|

608,333​

| Signed with Dynamo Moskva (KHL)

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

28​

|

600,000​

| Signed with Los Angeles (2 years, $900k per)

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Dustin Jeffrey|

C​

|

28​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Lausanne HC (NLA)

Will O'Neill|

D​

|

28​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Philadelphia (2 years, $612k, 2-way)

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Kael Mouillierat|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Luleå HF (SHL)

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

24​

|

800,000​

| Traded to New Jersey for 3rd-round pick

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k, 2-way)

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|

575,000​

| Signed with HC Sparta Praha (ELH), Pens retain rights

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

19​

|

Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

2 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

|

18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

20​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

|

18​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

21​

|Maine (HEA)

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

|

18​

|Luleå HF (SHL)

Connor Hall|

D​

|

18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

22​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

21​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

22​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[ColePens]

I love how slow this summer is going, but we are running out of everything to talk about.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I will agree to disagree about Geno, but you are not understanding my point of view on why i brought him up. So there's that. My opinion was that he was okay. Not great. Not terrible. He really elevated his team game in the ECF and SCF. He was pretty bad in the Washington series and really good in the opening round.

But you are inevitably missing the point i'm trying to make by a country mile. Either i'm poorly explaining it, or you are just taking it on a different path.

I get what you're saying. You're saying that winning without Letang is as unlikely as winning with Geno being a pretty big non-factor. And in your mind, we did win despite Geno being a pretty big non-factor. But the point doesn't really work for me, because I don't believe we would have won this Cup if Geno was a pretty big non-factor. I think he was a huge factor in why we won.

 

[ColePens]

I never once said Letang was bad for an extended period of time. He was piss poor in Game 5 of the ECF and Game 3 of the SCF. You need to go back and watch those games. It wasn't just a bad game, it was terrible/awful. They were brutal. And that brings us right back to what keeps Letang out of the Elite top 5. As dominant as he was, his bad was really really really bad. That brings us way back to the original point of why Letang stays out of the top 5 elite.

As for Geno. It's safe to say #71 did not play at the expectation of himself nor what we have all come to expect of him. He wasn't bad. He wasn't elite. He was okay to good. But what we've come to know from Geno is elite. He was not elite. But he was still 10 miles ahead of what he did in 2014-15 where a lot of us claimed he had a serious injury before going on to play the Worlds.

 

[JTG]

I think all of our stars aside from Kessel had good and bad games. I thought Kessel was the most consistently lethal guy on this team.

 

[ColePens]

Agree with that, JTG. I cannot recall one bad game Kessel played.

 

[td_ice]

I think all of our stars aside from Kessel had good and bad games. I thought Kessel was the most consistently lethal guy on this team.

Agreed. Personally I would have gone Murray, Kessel, Letang, then Sid in terms of CS voting.


Truly a team effort though. No runaway CS winner.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I never once said Letang was bad for an extended period of time. He was piss poor in Game 5 of the ECF and Game 3 of the SCF. You need to go back and watch those games. It wasn't just a bad game, it was terrible/awful. They were brutal. And that brings us right back to what keeps Letang out of the Elite top 5. As dominant as he was, his bad was really really really bad. That brings us way back to the original point of why Letang stays out of the top 5 elite.

Yeah, I just don't agree with how bad you seem to think he was.

As for Geno. It's safe to say #71 did not play at the expectation of himself nor what we have all come to expect of him. He wasn't bad. He wasn't elite. He was okay to good. But what we've come to know from Geno is elite. He was not elite. But he was still 10 miles ahead of what he did in 2014-15 where a lot of us claimed he had a serious injury before going on to play the Worlds.

He wasn't elite, but he was still a huge factor in winning. Calling him a pretty big non-factor is just ridiculous to me. Having 3 scoring lines was absolutely huge, and it can't happen without Geno. That line had some huge huge goals.

 

[ColePens]

Ogre clearly needs to rewatch Game 5 of the ECF and Game 3 of the SCF. Or... for fun just go through the GDT/PGT. You will find your answers.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Ogre clearly needs to rewatch Game 5 of the ECF and Game 3 of the SCF. Or... for fun just go through the GDT/PGT. You will find your answers.

I don't know if I normally just agree with you and don't notice, or if you are just being especially condescending here. There's no reason your opinion is more valid than mine, but you sure think it is. But clearly, you must be right. Clearly, Geno was barely a factor in us winning too. 3rd on the team in scoring from the 3rd line is pretty meh. If I only rewatched the games, I would see the light.

And pointing to the HF GDT/PGT as if they mean anything at all is just funny to me

 

[High Flying Birds]

Is it October yet?

 

[ColePens]

I don't know if I normally just agree with you and don't notice, or if you are just being especially condescending here. There's no reason your opinion is more valid than mine, but you sure think it is. But clearly, you must be right. Clearly, Geno was barely a factor in us winning too. 3rd on the team in scoring from the 3rd line is pretty meh. If I only rewatched the games, I would see the light.

And pointing to the HF GDT/PGT as if they mean anything at all is just funny to me

Rewatch the games objectively. Your answer will be there. ColePens is never wrong. NEVER. Okay... well sometimes.

Is it October yet?

Enjoy the summer first. I don't want that cold weather coming back for a long time.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

Ogre clearly needs to rewatch Game 5 of the ECF and Game 3 of the SCF. Or... for fun just go through the GDT/PGT. You will find your answers.

Yeah, because this place is so levelheaded during ECF and SCF games. That's good evidence.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

So which 5 defensemen are better than Letang?

Enjoy the summer first. I don't want that cold weather coming back for a long time.

**** you. It's been a hot summer and I welcome fall with open arms.

 

[ColePens]

Yeah, because this place is so levelheaded during ECF and SCF games. That's good evidence.

Watch the games objectively. I mentioned that a bunch of times. Did you want to touch on that? Or ignore it when I said to watch it objectively?

So which 5 defensemen are better than Letang?




**** you. It's been a hot summer and I welcome fall with open arms.

Listen.. I need my tennis season. Don't rush it. I love hot/muggy when it comes to tennis. I love it.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

Watch the games objectively. I mentioned that a bunch of times. Did you want to touch on that? Or ignore it when I said to watch it objectively?

Already did, thanks

 

[Dick Sledge]

Yeah, because this place is so levelheaded during ECF and SCF games. That's good evidence.

Never a truer statement.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

So which 5 defensemen are better than Letang?




**** you. It's been a hot summer and I welcome fall with open arms.

You'd have a tough case to say that either Subban or Weber were clearly better, and they both make almost twice as much in real dollars as Letang, and have higher AAV's. So that puts them a step below IMO. Suter is good, but more expensive, and carries his cap hit until he's 40. Not the same dynamic presence as Letang.

The guys I think are better right now:

I think you can say Doughty is better all around than Letang, and he's at 7M AAV until 2019 (but oh boy, he'll hit 29 and be UFA).

I might just take Keith over Letang at his shady 5.5 cap hit. He is 33, and even though slowing down, he's still darn good.

Hedman is the guy I'd build a team around right now. Only 4M AAV next year, 7.8 after. And he's still only 25. He's a steal at that cap hit.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

You'd have a tough case to say that either Subban or Weber were clearly better, and they both make almost twice as much in real dollars as Letang, and have higher AAV's. So that puts them a step below IMO. Suter is good, but more expensive, and carries his cap hit until he's 40. Not the same dynamic presence as Letang.

The guys I think are better right now:

I think you can say Doughty is better all around than Letang, and he's at 7M AAV until 2019 (but oh boy, he'll hit 29 and be UFA).

I might just take Keith over Letang at his shady 5.5 cap hit. He is 33, and even though slowing down, he's still darn good.

Hedman is the guy I'd build a team around right now. Only 4M AAV next year, 7.8 after. And he's still only 25. He's a steal at that cap hit.

If you are going to evaluate who is the better defenseman, I see no reason why the AAV for each player matters.

 

[ColePens]

Already did, thanks

Do you even know what you are arguing? Seriously? If so, are you arguing that Letang played well in Game 5 ECF and Game 3 SCF?

Or are you just making a comment that had nothing to do with the conversation?

 

[Shrimper]

I love how slow this summer is going, but we are running out of everything to talk about.

Don't worry, the WcoH will be here soon.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

You'd have a tough case to say that either Subban or Weber were clearly better, and they both make almost twice as much in real dollars as Letang, and have higher AAV's. So that puts them a step below IMO. Suter is good, but more expensive, and carries his cap hit until he's 40. Not the same dynamic presence as Letang.

I'll ignore contracts. Weber I'd say is in decline, Subban and Letang hover around the same area to me most of the time and I barely watched Minnesota last season.

I think you can say Doughty is better all around than Letang, and he's at 7M AAV until 2019 (but oh boy, he'll hit 29 and be UFA).

Would you say that Doughty is better offensively? I'd still say he's better than Letang but it's not all around.

I might just take Keith over Letang at his shady 5.5 cap hit. He is 33, and even though slowing down, he's still darn good.

Keith I can see.

Hedman is the guy I'd build a team around right now. Only 4M AAV next year, 7.8 after. And he's still only 25. He's a steal at that cap hit.

I can see the long term value, but I don't think I'd say he's definitely better than Letang right now.


Someone like Karlsson is a great offensive player but Letang ***** all over him defensively, you can argue from different points and find defensemen who are around Letang or have hypotheticals. I still don't think there are 5 defensemen definitely better than Letang.

 

[Ogrezilla]

There are just about 5 guys you can make arguments for being better. There are not 5 who are for sure better. I really think the top end of D is a pretty big cluster in general.

 

[Shady Machine]

Okay so again who are the elite 5 dmen that are better than Letang. I think we all agree he has his faults but just saying "he's not the top 5 because of x and y" without saying who is seems like a hollow argument.

 

[Gurglesons]

Okay so again who are the elite 5 dmen that are better than Letang. I think we all agree he has his faults but just saying "he's not the top 5 because of x and y" without saying who is seems like a hollow argument.

Karlsson, Doughty, Keith, OEL are the only four I'd have ahead of him. Even then I think he can be at the level of those players. He's definitely in that tier of Hedman, Subban, Josi where they get caught out of position because they play the puck so much.