2015-2016 Panthers

[KW]

I'd rather take Nash than Sharp.

 

[Android 16]

Are big, heavy teams a thing of the past now? Last year's championship Kings team didn't even qualify for the playoffs. If the NHL is evolving into where the models are CHI/TB then why should Florida expect to have success being built the way they are? I know NYR and ANA were each 1 game away but for whatever reason they could not move on. Seems like if anything is overrated these days, it's size.

 

[IM Clutcm]

Are big, heavy teams a thing of the past now? Last year's championship Kings team didn't even qualify for the playoffs. If the NHL is evolving into where the models are CHI/TB then why should Florida expect to have success being built the way they are? I know NYR and ANA were each 1 game away but for whatever reason they could not move on.

So because a big team didn't win this year, big teams are now a thing of the past?

 

[Android 16]

So because a big team didn't win this year, big teams are now a thing of the past?

With teams like Chicago and Tampa at the top of the mountain, it seems like teams built around size are becoming a thing of the past. If anything it's like size is becoming overrated. I'm just trying to analyze the trends and see what the future holds..

 

[EnforceTheLaus]

With teams like Chicago and Tampa at the top of the mountain, it seems like teams built around size are becoming a thing of the past. If anything it's like size is becoming overrated. I'm just trying to analyze the trends and see what the future holds..

Anaheim and NYR are both "big" teams. Both took them to game 7. Definetly not clear cut.

 

[I am not exposed]

Are big, heavy teams a thing of the past now? Last year's championship Kings team didn't even qualify for the playoffs. If the NHL is evolving into where the models are CHI/TB then why should Florida expect to have success being built the way they are? I know NYR and ANA were each 1 game away but for whatever reason they could not move on. Seems like if anything is overrated these days, it's size.

No. You're over reacting.

 

[IM Clutcm]

With teams like Chicago and Tampa at the top of the mountain, it seems like teams built around size are becoming a thing of the past. If anything it's like size is becoming overrated. I'm just trying to analyze the trends and see what the future holds..

One year is not a trend.

 

[I am not exposed]

With teams like Chicago and Tampa at the top of the mountain, it seems like teams built around size are becoming a thing of the past. If anything it's like size is becoming overrated. I'm just trying to analyze the trends and see what the future holds..

It's been one year since LA won.

Anaheim pushed Chicago to game 7 in the Western final. As EnforceTheLaus said, it is not clear cut.

 

[BeezKnees]

Are big, heavy teams a thing of the past now? Last year's championship Kings team didn't even qualify for the playoffs. If the NHL is evolving into where the models are CHI/TB then why should Florida expect to have success being built the way they are? I know NYR and ANA were each 1 game away but for whatever reason they could not move on. Seems like if anything is overrated these days, it's size.

The Kings are a borderline playoff team every year. Even when they win the cup, it's never been as a high seed. So them not making it this year doesn't really prove anything to me.

To your point, I think this year proves that smaller/skill teams CAN make it. Just means there are multiple ways to win the cup. But there are a million other factors besides size/skill/ speed.

Leadership...hot goaltending...#character have always been the common factors throughout history. Team size vs speed vs skill etc are just style choices

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Kings got screwed by Voynov/cap. Playing with 4 dmen for so long they could never really get going.


Anaheim or LA as the west rep in the SCF is my guess for next year.

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

What do we think of Frolik back in Sunrise?

 

[spacemanatee]

What do we think of Frolik back in Sunrise?

naaaah

 

[EnforceTheLaus]

What do we think of Frolik back in Sunrise?

I know at least one who would approve

I think that ship has sailed and he'll likely look for a top 6 position and $$ to match.

 

[FrolikFan67]

I know at least one who would approve

i would cry tears of joy, the tears i nearly shed when i heard he got traded

 

[Android 16]

What do we think of Frolik back in Sunrise?

He wouldn't make any difference.

 

[ShootIt]

He wouldn't make any difference.

I think he could be solid middle 6 guy, that would help our PK.

It's a shame his offense never blossomed, but he has seemed to have developed a good defensive game, while chipping in .5PPG the past two years.

Edit: I would pass unless the $$$ was right.

And I dunno if he and Tallon would care for each other

 

[FrolikFan67]

i wish we could swap out jokinen and his contract for frolik...

he'd be a great 3rd line rw to have. age is still good, good size, good on the pk and a good 2-way forward, plays well enough in the playoffs and is skilled enough to chip in offensively. jets fans were really pleased with him and thats because the jets actually would play him anywhere from the 3rd to 2nd and even 1st line unlike the blackhawks, he was given more time and opportunities and of course he had a better season. he scored 21g and about 45pt in each of his first 2 seasons here, starting dipping in the 3rd season but then he got traded, they were cleaning house anyways so the team was garbage. his production here was completely fine. i wouldnt overpay for him, but id give him 4-4.33

 

[BeezKnees]

I think he could be solid middle 6 guy, that would help our PK.

It's a shame his offense never blossomed, but he has seemed to have developed a good defensive game, while chipping in .5PPG the past two years.

Edit: I would pass unless the $$$ was right.

And I dunno if he and Tallon would care for each other

He basically traded Frolik straight up for Jack Skille, if I remember correctly. That should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about what Tallon thinks of him.

 

[PanthersHockey1]

If Michael Frolik is our big summer acquisition to solve our top 6 then I will personally call Cifu and tell him to cancel our season tix for 2016 by october.

 

[FrolikFan67]

He basically traded Frolik straight up for Jack Skille, if I remember correctly. That should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about what Tallon thinks of him.

that was nearly half a decade ago tho. his play on the pk, his 2-way game, his size, i think he developed more in those aspects since we last had him. its not uncommon for a gm to bring back a player. and he was going after a guy he drafted in skille and in the process of trading nearly everyone on the team.

 

[Android 16]

If Michael Frolik is our big summer acquisition to solve our top 6 then I will personally call Cifu and tell him to cancel our season tix for 2016 by october.

This speaks volumes.

 

[FrolikFan67]

in the off chance we did sign him, which i doubt will happen with boyes and hayes although id be willing to move on from both to sign frolik, but if it happened it obviously wouldnt be THE signing, we need a top-6 winger, someone who's more of a difference maker, even tho frolik can play in the top-6 we need something bigger.....even tho i can totally see us signing justin williams, probably at even more dollars (but less term) and he's pretty much the same as far as production is concerned.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Micheal Frolik will probably get 5+ million. In addition to being a redundant payer on the Panthers, I already read enough complaining about Bolland, I don't need another vastly overpriced player relative to his skillset.


Free agent money this year will be comical. Jeff Petry got 5.5 x 6 lol

 

[vendetta]

Micheal Frolik will probably get 5+ million. In addition to being a redundant payer on the Panthers, I already read enough complaining about Bolland, I don't need another vastly overpriced player relative to his skillset.


Free agent money this year will be comical. Jeff Petry got 5.5 x 6 lol

That's the going rate for a solid top4 d ... good deal for mtl... locked up through his prime and not much past if at all... better than most free agent signings

 

[Juggernaut27]

That's the going rate for a solid top4 d ... good deal for mtl... locked up through his prime and not much past if at all... better than most free agent signings

That was when everything in Cap Land was rosey and the economy was allegedly getting better. Even then, some of those deals have looked like disasters.

I like that they got him signed, solid young rearguard, but either drop the term by 2 years or the money by 1 million. Too easy to hamstring an entire organization with these deals. One doesn't look too bad right now but they can pile up quick. Not like Montreal is Phoneix, either. They don't have to bribe players with sweetheart deals to land FA's.

By the time Petry is a FA we will all be watching him play with our VR helmets that we printed on our 3D printers