2014 reDraft #1

[Krewe]

not wanting to take NHL performance into account for an NHL re-draft is a very bold choice

Save it. This guy is up there with McFlash with his levels of homerism for his players. Except he didn't even wait until his player was an NHL regular

 

[Breakers]

LOLOL

That toronto dude is trying to claim Nylander as a center, being better defensively, and more productive than larkin

this is almost as brutal as when he said Nylander is better than Pettersson

 

[Realgud]

How is Shestyorkin not even an option here? He has been lights out everywhere he has played, including the NHL.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I did. Shestyorkin had the best SV% in the NHL this season. It’s a theme. He wasn’t carried by anyone.

no he didn't, and you just said you didn't want to vote on NHL accomplishments. The reality is Pastrnak has played 390 games since the draft and has contributed much, much more than Shesterkin has so far and so have plenty of other players

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

"Potential" elite goalie. Again, you're basing it on your own hopes and prayers, not basing it on anything actually achieved in the NHL to this point.

Meanwhile, no one has to hope or dream to know what Pastrnak has done. There's no homerism needed in order to project what he can do.

No, again, you appear to be yet another that only regards certain performances. This is not about potential. This is about results. Shestyorkin had the best SV% in the NHL this year. He had the best in the AHL. I think he’s #2 all time in the KHL for his career and his last season he had the second best single season ever in this category. Missed the record by a few shots.

If you don’t like my answer, that’s not my problem. I explained my reasoning. It’s based on current ability. If you only choose to regard play from your favorite leagues, that’s not my problem.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

No, again, you appear to be yet another that only regards certain performances. This is not about potential. This is about results. Shestyorkin had the best SV% in the NHL this year. He had the best in the AHL. I think he’s #2 all time in the KHL for his career and his last season he had the second best single season ever in this category. Missed the record by a few shots.

If you don’t like my answer, that’s not my problem. I explained my reasoning. It’s based on current ability. If you only choose to regard play from your favorite leagues, that’s not my problem.

You're right. I'm the one out to lunch because NHL performance impresses me more than KHL performance does.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

There literally is a case and I made it. If you don’t like it, that’s your issue.

You can literally make no case for a guy who's played 12 NHL games going over Pastrnak.

Come back in 3 years and maybe you can make that case.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

no he didn't, and you just said you didn't want to vote on NHL accomplishments. The reality is Pastrnak has played 390 games since the draft and has contributed much, much more than Shesterkin has so far and so have plenty of other players

My mistake, he was second. That ruins my whole argument.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

My mistake, he was second. That ruins my whole argument.

your argument ruins your whole argument, but you should at least get your facts right

 

[WingsMJN2965]

LOLOL

That toronto dude is trying to claim Nylander as a center, being better defensively, and more productive than larkin

this is almost as brutal as when he said Nylander and Pettersson are close.

What's hilarious is the one year Nylander got significant time as a center, he produced at half a point per game.

Somehow his lunacy has already been one-upped by the guy who thinks a goalie with 12 NHL games should go over David f***ing Pastrnak in a re-draft.

 

[UConn126]

I'm bad at these, but here's my top 5:

Drai
Point
Pasta
Larkin
Ekblad

Ehlers, Nylanders, and DeAngelo are prob the next 3, but idk what order.

 

[newfy]

Is this not which player you would prefer to have on your team? I don’t need to vote on NHL accomplishments because it’s your favorite league.

I’ll take the elite goalie over the winger that’s the third best player on his own line.

Lol come on man.

Pastrnak has almost as many career hatricks as Shesterkin has games played. We're 6 years removed from that draft now, time to start using some actual NHL production in this redraft. Pasta just won the rocket for gods sake

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Goalie who’s played 12 games> Hart Trophy Art Ross winner

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

The reverse, the more productive and better defensive C, in Nylander would go 4th.

This is as bad as your claim (that you dodged completely) that RNH is a 20-40 point player.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Save it. This guy is up there with McFlash with his levels of homerism for his players. Except he didn't even wait until his player was an NHL regular

I'm so offended by your personal attack, but you are also wrong. He's a regular NHL'er.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Lol come on man.

Pastrnak has almost as many career hatricks as Shesterkin has games played. We're 6 years removed from that draft now, time to start using some actual NHL production in this redraft. Pasta just won the rocket for gods sake

Thats only true of your favorite league.

Not everyone plays in the NHL right away. Some have contracts in leagues that don't bow down to the NHL, and don't release their players at the first desire of an NHL team.

 

[Jacksonbobson]

Its Robby Fabbri for me.

105 points for the Mississauga Rebels in the GTHL.

He may not of been better in the NHL than a lot of these guys but I don't judge solely based on NHL performance.

 

[Crossfire Hurricane]

My mistake, he was second. That ruins my whole argument.

Third, he was behind Anthony Stolarz and Chris Driedger.

Go ahead. Bring up sample size.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Pastrnak scored over 4 times as many goals this season as Shesterkin has career games played.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Thats only true of your favorite league.

Not everyone plays in the NHL right away. Some have contracts in leagues that don't bow down to the NHL, and don't release their players at the first desire of an NHL team.

The bolded has to be one of the strangest arguments I've seen on here, and that says a lot considering some of the strange arguments I've seen on here.

"Your favorite league" being the NHL. You know, the top league in the entire world. Apparently performing at an elite level in the KHL is more impressive than performing at an elite level in the NHL.

 

[leafsfan5]

Man there's been some God awful takes on this website but picking a goalie who's played only 12 games over someone who just won the rocket and is a top 3 goal scorer in hockey might top the list. What in the hell lmao

 

[lamini]

I think he’s #2 all time in the KHL for his career and his last season he had the second best single season ever in this category. Missed the record by a few shots.

He's third, behind Francouz and Lars Johansson.

 

[newfy]

Thats only true of your favorite league.

Not everyone plays in the NHL right away. Some have contracts in leagues that don't bow down to the NHL, and don't release their players at the first desire of an NHL team.

Lol "my favourite league" also happens to be the best league in the world and the one we're talking about doing a redraft in.

Youre right not everyone plays in the NHL right away, but the odds of Sherterkin passing a guy who at 24 already has multiple dominant seasons, is a top 3 goal scorer in the league and has already won major individual hardware are pretty damn low. Are you going to rate Vasilevsky as a better player overall than Pasta right now? Highly doubtful, but you would take potential over that? Seems far fetched

 

[RedWingzz]

Am I missing some sort of inside joke here? Kirkland? Justin Kirkland? The guy has never played a single game, why is he here?

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Close between Draisaitl, Pastrnak and Point. Went with Draisaitl.