Pre-Game Talk: 2014 NHL Entry Draft Part 1

[arsmaster*]

Sucks to start is off with a Craig Button list, but here it is: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

1. Sam Reinhart - Kootenay (WHL) Nov. 6/95 C R 6'1/186
2. Aaron Ekblad - Barrie (OHL) Feb. 7/96 D R 6'4/216
3. William Nylander - Rogle (SWE) May 1/96 LW R 5'11/169
4. Sam Bennett - Kingston (OHL) Jun. 20/96 C L 6'0/178
5. Kasperi Kapanen - Kalpa (FIN) Jul. 23/96 RW R 5'11/172
6. Adrian Kempe - Modo Jr. (SWE) Sep. 13/96 LW L 6'1/187
7. Leon Draisaitl - Prince Albert (WHL) Oct. 27/95 LW L 6'1/178
8. Ivan Barbashev - Moncton (QMJHL) Dec. 14/95 C/LW L 6'0/185
9. Anton Karlsson - Frolunda (SWE) Aug. 3/96 RW L 6'0/187
10. Haydn Fleury - Red Deer (WHL) Jul. 8/96 D L 6'2/207
11. Adam Ollas Mattsson - Djurgarden (SWE) Jul. 30/96 D L 6'4/209
12. Brayden Point - Moose Jaw (WHL) Mar. 13/96 C R 5'9/156
13. Spencer Watson - Kingston (OHL) Apr. 25/96 RW R 6'0/170
14. Michael Dal Colle - Oshawa (OHL) Jun. 20/96 LW L 6'2/184
15. Matt Mistele - Plymouth (OHL) Oct. 17/95 C/LW L 6'1/183
16. Brycen Martin - Swift Current (WHL) MAY 9/96 D L 6'1/178
17. Ryan MacInnis - Kitchener (OHL) Feb. 14/96 C L 6'3/175
18. Julien Nantel - Rouyn Noranda (QMJHL) Sep. 6/96 RW L 5'11/181
19. Anton Lindblom - Brynas Jr. (SWE) Aug. 15/96 RW L 6'1/191
20. Nick Ritchie - Peterborough (OHL) Dec. 5/95 LW L 6'2/218
21. Blake Clark - North Bay (OHL) Jan. 24/96 LW L 6'1/190
22. Jared McCann - Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) May. 31/96 C L 6'0/179
23. Roland McKeown - Kingston (OHL) Jan. 20/96 D R 6'1/186
24. Jack Glover - USNTDP (USHL) May 17/96 D L 6'2/170
25. Nick Schmaltz - Green Bay (USHL) Feb. 23/96 C R 6'0/170
26. Jake Virtanen - Calgary (WHL) Aug. 17/96 RW R 6'0/213
27. Jack Ramsey - Penticton (BCHL) Nov. 5/95 RW R 6'2/172
28. Nikita Lyamkin - Chicoutimi (QMJHL) Feb. 6/96 D L 6'3/170
29. Reid Duke - Lethbridge (WHL) Jan. 28/96 RW R 5'11/188
30. Alexis Pepin - Charlottetown (QMJHL) Apr. 22/96 LW L 6'2/230

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[y2kcanucks]

Surprised not to see Joshua Ho-Sang in the top 30.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Haven't heard much of these names outside of Reinhart, Ekblad, Virtanen, and Ho-Sang who I didn't think was draft eligible this year. I'm just going to assume it's a much weaker class than 2013?

If Virtanen stays there most of this season for whatever reason, I'd love to get him with our round 1 pick.

EDIT: Just realized it was a Button list as my hopes fade into the distance.

 

[Jevo]

Surprised not to see Joshua Ho-Sang in the top 30.

He seems to be dropping like a rock at the moment. I read something about character issues. But I have not followed him in depth, so some else will probably be able to shed more light on it.

I would have liked to see Nikolaj Ehlers on there. But I'm not surprised, I'm positive he'll rise throughout the year though.

 

[arsmaster*]

I'd say its a pretty poor list when compared to the consensus at this point.

Seems to favour Sweden and a bunch of smaller forwards.

I can't see dal Colle, McCann and Clarke being available where they are on this list, they are almost universally thought of as top 10's. I realize a lot can change, but those 3 guys won't be available past 10 IMO, same with Virtanen.

 

[Numbers]

There is potential Canucks go deep in playoffs this year and are no doubt a contender, just not a favourite. Look for Canucks to pick in 20-25 range next year. I also see them choosing a defenceman, unless very good forward prospect slides. Based on developmental patterns 20-25 pick defenceman probably take 2-4 years to make NHL which would be inline with players like Bieksa and Hamhuis being on downturn of career/contract expiring.

 

[Tiranis]

Sucks to start is off with a Craig Button list

Well, here's a better list for you then:

#|Pos|Name|DOB|Ht - Wt|L/R|Team
1|C|Sam Reinhart|11/6/1995|6'1, 186|R|Kootenay
2|F|Willie Nylander|5/1/1996|5'10, 163|R|Sodertalje
3|D|Aaron Ekblad|2/7/1996|6'4, 213|R|Barrie
4|C|Leon Draisaitl|10/27/1995|6'0, 199|L|Prince Albert
5|F|Nicholas Ritchie|12/5/1995|6'3, 218|L|Peterborough
6|F|Blake Clarke|1/24/1996|6'1, 190|L|Brampton
7|F|Michael Dal Colle|6/20/1996|6'2, 172|L|Oshawa
8|D|Roland McKeown|1/20/1996|6'0, 186|R|Kingston
9|F|Jakub Vrana|2/28/1996|6'0, 183|L|Linkoping
10|C|Jared McCann|5/31/1996|6'0, 175|L|S.S. Marie
11|F|Sam Bennett|6/20/1996|6'0, 165|L|Kingston
12|F|Ivan Barbashev|12/14/1995|6'0, 181|L|Moncton
13|F|Jake Virtanen|8/17/1996|6'0, 199|R|Calgary
14|F|Anton Karlsson|9/3/1996|6'0, 170|L|Frolunda
15|F|Kaspar Kapanen|7/23/1996|5'11, 165|R|Kuopio
16|F|Joshua Ho-Sang|1/22/1996|5'11, 160|R|Windsor
17|D|Haydn Fleury|7/8/1996|6'3, 202|L|Red Deer
18|F|Nikolai Goldobin|10/7/1995|5'11, 165|L|Sarnia
19|D|Jack Glover|5/17/1996|6'3, 173|R|USNT
20|C|Conner Bleackley|7/2/1996|6'0, 197|R|Red Deer
21|F|Matthew Mistele|10/17/1995|6'2, 183|L|Plymouth
22|F|David Pastrnak|5/25/1996|5'11, 165|L|Sodertalje
23|D|Brycen Martin|5/9/1996|6'1, 178|L|Swift Current
24|D|Jacob Middleton|1/2/1996|6'3, 194|L|Ottawa
25|F|Oskar Lindblom|8/15/1996|6'2, 187|L|Brynas
26|C|Adrian Kempe|9/13/1996|6'2, 178|L|Modo
27|F|Spencer Watson|4/25/1996|5'10, 165|L|Kingston
28|F|Tyson Baillie|11/16/1995|5'10, 195|R|Kelowna
29|F|Brandon Robinson|10/13/1995|6'3, 200|L|Brampton
30|D|Adam Ollas Mattsson|7/30/1996|6'3, 194|L|Djurgardens

http://www.coppernblue.com/2013/8/17/4625160/2014-nhl-draft-rankings-consensus-top-30

 

[arsmaster*]

The “consensus†top-30 has been combined from the following rankings:

• Future Considerations top-30 from their website: Link
• Hockeyprospect.com top-30 from their 2013 NHL Draft Black Book
• International Scouting Services top-30 from their 2013 NHL Draft Guide
• McKeen's Hockey top-30 from their website: Link
• Red Line Report top-30 from their 2013 NHL Draft Guide

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- In total 53 different players appeared in these top-30's.
- The ongoing Hlinka Cup will naturally affect the rankings quite a bit, so take the list just as a starting point to the season.
- Link to last year's list.

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#. Pos. - Name - (Average rank - Prevalence - Weighted average)
1. CE - Sam Reinhart - (1.4 - 5/5 - 1.4)
2. W/C - William Nylander - (2.0 - 5/5 - 2.0)
3. D - Aaron Ekblad - (3.8 - 5/5 - 3.8)
4. LW - Nick Ritchie - (8.2 - 5/5 - 8.2)
5. CE - Leon Draisaitl - (8.4 - 5/5 - 8.4)
6. W - Anton Karlsson - (9.4 - 5/5 - 9.4)
7. D - Roland McKeown - (10.6 - 5/5 - 10.6)
8. LW - Blake Clarke - (11.6 - 5/5 - 11.6)
9. LW - Jake Virtanen - (11.6 - 5/5 - 11.6)
10. LW - Michael Dal Colle - (12.0 - 5/5 - 12.0)
11. LW - Jared McCann - (12.4 - 5/5 - 12.4)
12. W/C - Jakub Vrana - (14.0 - 5/5 - 14.0)
13. LW - Ivan Barbashev - (13.25 - 4/5 - 16.56)
14. D - Haydn Fleury - (16.8 - 5/5 - 16.8)
15. W/C - Sam Bennett - (17.2 - 5/5 - 17.2)
16. D - Brycen Martin - (15.25 - 4/5 - 19.06)
17. W - Nikolai Goldobin - (16.75 - 4/5 - 20.94)
18. W - Oskar Lindblom - (18.75 - 4/5 - 23.44)
19. D - Jacob Middleton - (18.75 - 4/5 - 23.44)
20. D - Jack Glover - (19.0 - 4/5 - 23.75)
21. C - Nick Schmaltz - (15.33 - 3/5 - 25.55)
22. W/C - Alexis Pepin - (16.33 - 3/5 - 27.22)
23. W - Kasperi Kapanen - (22.25 - 4/5 - 27.81)
24. C - Conner Bleackley - (24.0 - 4/5 - 30.0)
25. D - Nikita Lyamkin - (6.0 - 1/5 - 30.0)
26. LW - Matthew Mistele - (20.67 - 3/5 - 34.44)
27. W/C - Joshua Ho-Sang - (21.67 - 3/5 - 36.11)
28. W/C - Adrian Kempe - (21.67 - 3/5 - 36.11)
29. C - Sonny Milano - (16.5 - 2/5 - 41.25)
30. C - Brayden Point - (26.0 - 3/5 - 43.33)
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31. C - Ryan MacInnis - (17.5 - 2/5 - 43.75)
32. D - Adam Mattsson - (10.0 - 1/5 - 50.0)
33. LW - Brandon Robinson - (25.0 - 2/5 - 62.5)
34. W/C - David Pastrnak - (25.5 - 2/5 - 63.75)
35. W - Spencer Watson - (28.5 - 2/5 - 71.25)
36. C - Tyson Baillie - (16.0 - 1/5 - 80.0)
37. LW - Arkhip Nekolenko - (17.0 - 1/5 - 85.0)
38. W/C - Kevin Fiala - (19.0 - 1/5 - 95.0)
39. D - Joshua Jacobs - (19.0 - 1/5 - 95.0)
40. D - Julius Bergman - (21.0 - 1/5 - 105.0)
41. GK - Kaapo Kähkönen - (21.0 - 1/5 - 105.0)
42. LW - Damian Bourne - (22.0 - 1/5 - 110.0)
43. C - Dylan Larkin - (23.0 - 1/5 - 115.0)
44. W/C - Alex Tuch - (24.0 - 1/5 - 120.0)
45. GK - Mason McDonald - (25.0 - 1/5 - 125.0)
46. W - Rihards Bukarts - (26.0 - 1/5 - 130.0)
47. RW - Austin Poganski - (26.0 - 1/5 - 130.0)
48. LW - Maxim Lazarev - (26.0 - 1/5 - 130.0)
49. D - Phil Baltisberger - (28.0 - 1/5 - 140.0)
50. GK - Igor Shestyorkin - (28.0 - 1/5 - 140.0)
51. D - Julius Honka - (29.0 - 1/5 - 145.0)
52. D - Anthony DeAngelo - (29.0 - 1/5 - 145.0)
53. W/C - Matt Schmalz - (30.0 - 1/5 - 150.0)

From the prospects board, a consensus list put together based on other independent rankings.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Haven't heard much of these names outside of Reinhart, Ekblad, Virtanen, and Ho-Sang who I didn't think was draft eligible this year. I'm just going to assume it's a much weaker class than 2013?

If Virtanen stays there most of this season for whatever reason, I'd love to get him with our round 1 pick.

EDIT: Just realized it was a Button list as my hopes fade into the distance.

I doubt Virtanen stays that low, he was playing more of a checking role last season on the Hitmen. He'll have a much bigger offensive role this season.

 

[Hansen]

Nikolaj Ehlers would be a solid pick at 20-25, Ho-Sang would be interesting as he'd have to be this years Shinkaruk.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

Surprised not to see Joshua Ho-Sang in the top 30.

First thing I noticed as well.

Someone I'm definitely interested in seeing develop is Draisatl. Was solid as a 17-year old at the U-20, I have a feeling he's going to end up going top-3 by the end of the year.

 

[Trelane]

Need to go through a good chunk of the season to see how our new prospects are progressing and what sort of needs there may be on the big club. Who knows, if the current kids perform as advertised, I may even be open to a D man.

One thing the 2013 draft hammered home for me was just how much of a factor teams’ needs, or perceived needs 2 years down the road, influence 1st round selections, even very early on (e.g. Barkov). Elsewhere:

Philly draft board – outrageously overvaluing anyBODY with a “D” next to position

Winnipeg – reaching for the most talented LH D available and size being no issue given current D make up

Old Adams division – size arms race in full swing (Ristolainen, Zadorov, Gauthier, McCarron) with everybody furiously beefing up to deal with Boston

Calgary – passing on Shinkaruk, likely on account of already having a good crop of highly skilled, smallish left wingers (Bartchii, Gudreau?) in the system

Nucks – snagging Shink, having had their fill of size the last 2 years and taking a 211 pounder with the 9th.

Speaks to the importance of understanding our, and especially others, needs when gaging sliders and making prognostications.

 

[arsmaster*]

Not a big fan of Ho-Sang, the game is very minor hockeyish (do it all himself). Talented to be sure, but not sure he's a player.

All I know, is I'm extremely impressed with the Ontario 1996 birth year + the 95's available (Clark, Mistele, Goldobin) are also top end prospects.

I've said it for months, I think our first pick will be from Ontario. I'd love it to be a forward too.

 

[arsmaster*]

Need to go through a good chunk of the season to see how our new prospects are progressing and what sort of needs there may be on the big club. Who knows, if the current kids perform as advertised, I may even be open to a D man.

One thing the 2013 draft hammered home for me was just how much of a factor teams’ needs, or perceived needs 2 years down the road, influence 1st round selections, even very early on (e.g. Barkov). Elsewhere:

Philly draft board – outrageously overvaluing anyBODY with a “D†next to position

Winnipeg – reaching for the most talented LH D available and size being no issue given current D make up

Old Adams division – size arms race in full swing (Ristolainen, Zadorov, Gauthier, McCarron) with everybody furiously beefing up to deal with Boston

Calgary – passing on Shinkaruk, likely on account of already having a good crop of highly skilled, smallish left wingers (Bartchii, Gudreau?) in the system

Nucks – snagging Shink, having had their fill of size the last 2 years and taking a 211 pounder with the 9th.

Speaks to the importance of understanding our, and especially others, needs when gaging sliders and making prognostications.

I don't think Morrissey was a reach and I don't think Shinkaruk was a pick based on need....clear BPA.

Either way, hoping for a forward. Hoping for lots of forwards actually, we took 4 dmen this year.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

Winnipeg – reaching for the most talented LF D available and size being no issue given current D make up

I don't think Morrissey was a reach based on positional need. With Byfuglien, Enstrom, Bogosian, and Trouba they have a very solid D core moving forward.

Personally I had Morrissey as the 4th best defenseman in the draft. I'm not surprised a team fell in love with him, given he has tremendous upside.

 

[Pip]

Haven't seen really any of these guys play yet, but from everything I've read about him, EHLers is very intriguing

 

[Jevo]

Nikolaj Ehlers would be a solid pick at 20-25, Ho-Sang would be interesting as he'd have to be this years Shinkaruk.

I would be surprised if Ehlers is there at 20. I think he's a better prospect than Jensen at the same age.

I don't think you can compare Ho-Sang with Shinkaruk. Shinkaruk was ranked around 10-ish at the draft. Ho-Sang is already being ranked at the end of the first.

 

[jigsaw99]

man... how badly do the Canucks need a prospect like Aaron Ekblad right now? He is the perfect need for us.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Expect Jake Virtanen to jump in the rankings throughout the year.

#1 Overall Pick in the 2010 Bantam Draft, exceptional vision and puck control and has a great nose for the net.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Expect Jake Virtanen to jump in the rankings throughout the year.

#1 Overall Pick in the 2010 Bantam Draft, exceptional vision and puck control and has a great nose for the net.

And plays with an edge.

 

[DennisReynolds]

So what happens to the draft order of a team who wins the division? Is it like previous years where the winners will pick somewhere along 25thish or is it based on who gets knocked out of the playoffs first?

 

[Seatoo]

Would be very happy with Pepin, Kempe or Clark

 

[Ryp37]

Hope we get MacInnis's son

 

[nameless1]

Is this draft stronger or weaker than the 2013 one?

It appears to be weaker...
Because I have heard that Reinhart would only be...
About a top 5 in last year's draft.

 

[Royal Canuck]

Drasaitl is another guy that will jump up too.

The Wayne Gretzky of Germany he's been deemed by his fellow teammates.