Prospect Info: 2014 Leafs Board Prospect Ranking: #3

[Schenn]

Sorry everyone, I was gone camping for the weekend. These will be appearing more regularly now.


I have also removed Peter Holland from the polls due to everyone getting their panties in a bunch over him. I had a thread earlier where people could decide whether I should or should not include prospects and no one said don't include Holland. Some of you may complain that this will skew previous results, but in all honesty I don't care, Finn still would have won.

I will make a thread everyday until we have determined the top 30 prospects according to Leaf fans on HFBoards.

Rankings:
1. William Nylander -- 93.26%
2. Matt Finn -- 37.14%
3.
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On The Docket:
Tom Nilsson
Carter Ashton
Tyler Biggs
Connor Brown
Chris Gibson
Josh Leivo
Andreas Johnson
Carter Verhaeghe
Frederik Gauthier
Petter Granberg
Stuart Percy
Andrew MacWilliam
Sam Carrick
Antoine Bibeau
Rinat Valiev
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Next on the List:
David Broll
Tony Cameranesi
Max Everson
Jamie Devane
Chris Gibson
Eric Knodel
Brandon Kozun
Victor Loov
Greg McKegg
Brad Ross
Ryan Rupert
Kenny Ryan
Garret Sparks
Dominic Toninato
John Piccinich
Josh Dakota
Nolan Vesey
Pierre Engvall
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Past Results:
Prospect Ranking #1
Prospect Ranking #2


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[Bardown warrior]

Stuart Percy

 

[bobermay]

Percy

 

[Drew311]

I think it's Leivo by a pretty good margin. He should turn out to be an above average 2nd line forward. I'm not sure I can say that about anyone else on the list.

 

[TheThrill81*]

No one was getting their panties in a bunch about Holland. HF's criteria about what constitutes a prospect is very clear. Holland did not meet that criteria, simple as that.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I think its Granberg but I voted Leivo already. Either way I think these 2 should get the checkmark. Infact I think they are ahead of Finn. And you all know, I love all 3 of these guys.

 

[McMatthews]

Projections in parenthesis.

1. William Nylander (1st line forward, 75+ points)
2. Matthew Finn (#2 or #3 defenceman)
3. Josh Leivo (2nd line winger, 60 point upside)
4. Stuart Percy (#3 or #4 defenceman)
5. Andreas Johnson (2nd line winger)
6. Frederik Gauthier (3rd line centre, penalty killer)
7. Tom Nilsson (#3 or #4 defenceman)
8. Petter Granberg (#4 or #5 defenceman)
9. Carter Verhaeghe (3rd line centre)
10. Rinat Valiev (#4 or #5 defenceman, offensive upside)
11. Connor Brown (3rd line winger, secondary scoring)
12. Antoine Bibeau (backup NHL goaltender)
13. Sam Carrick (4th line centre, penalty killer)
14. Carter Ashton (4th line winger, grinder)
15. Dominic Toninato (3rd line centre, project)
16. Andrew MacWilliam (#5 or #6 defenceman)
17. Pierre Engvall (3rd line winger, good upside/project)
18. Christopher Gibson (backup NHL goaltender)
19. David Broll (4th line winger, powerforward)
20. Greg McKegg (3rd line centre, secondary scoring)
21. Viktor Loov (#5 or #6 defenceman)
22. Tony Cameranesi (bottom 6 centre, penalty killer)
23. Garret Sparks (backup NHL goaltender)
24. Tyler Biggs (4th line winger, grinder)
25. Jamie Devane (4th line winger, enforcer)
26. John Piccinich (good playmaker upside, long term project)
27. Dakota Joshua (good powerforward upside, long term project)
28. Brad Ross (4th line winger, pest)
29. Ryan Rupert (4th line winger, pest)
30. Nolan Vesey (long term project)
31. Eric Knodel (AHL callup)
32. Brandon Kozun (AHL callup)
33. Kenny Ryan (AHL callup)
34. Max Everson (ECHL player)

 

[glasses91]

Someone please throw up Percy the train.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

Nobody really thinks much of Connor Brown do they...

 

[Skim]

No one was getting their panties in a bunch about Holland. HF's criteria about what constitutes a prospect is very clear. Holland did not meet that criteria, simple as that.

Yup. Although understandably some people differ on their definition of a prospect, considering where we are, it seems pretty cut and dry what definition we should be using.

 

[Celly Hard]

Don't know how people aren't voting gauthier here

 

[bobermay]

1. William Nylander
2. Matthew Finn
3. Josh Leivo
4. Stuart Percy
5. Andreas Johnson
6. Frederik Gauthier
7. Tom Nilsson
8. Petter Granberg
9. Carter Verhaeghe
10. Rinat Valiev
11. Connor Brown
12. Antoine Bibeau
13. Sam Carrick
14. Carter Ashton
15. Dominic Toninato
16. Andrew MacWilliam
17. Pierre Engvall
18. Christopher Gibson
19. David Broll
20. Greg McKegg
21. Viktor Loov
22. Garret Sparks
23. Tyler Biggs
24. Jamie Devane
25. Tony Cameranesi
26. John Piccinich
27. Dakota Joshua
28. Brad Ross
29. Ryan Rupert
30. Eric Knodel
31. Nolan Vesey
32. Brandon Kozun
33. Kenny Ryan
34. Max Everson

My List is similar:

1. William Nylander
2. Matthew Finn
3. Stuart Percy
4. Tom Nilsson
5. Josh Leivo
6. Andreas Johnson
7. Frederik Gauthier
8. Petter Granberg
9. Connor Brown
10. Carter Verhaeghe
11. Rinat Valiev
12. Carter Ashton
13. Garret Sparks
14. David Broll
15. Sam Carrick
16. Tyler Biggs
17. Antoine Bibeau
18. Dominic Toninato
19. Viktor Loov
20. Eric Knodel
21. Dakota Joshua
22. Greg McKegg
23. Andrew MacWilliam
24. Pierre Engvall
25. Christopher Gibson
26. Ryan Rupert
27. Jamie Devane
28. Tony Cameranesi
29. John Piccinich
30. Nolan Vesey
31. Brad Ross
32. Brandon Kozun
33. Kenny Ryan
34. Max Everson

 

[Drew311]

Nobody really thinks much of Connor Brown do they...

Lots of prospects have put up big points in the CHL. He still has to prove he can do it at the pro level.

 

[LV*]

Josh Leivo

EDIT: add McKegg or Toninato

 

[TmlHockeyFan]

Definitely Josh Leivo. I think Gauthier only has that many votes due to him being the latest 1st round pick (aside from Nylander). I've seen them both play and I've been more impressed with Leivo since he has made strides. Gauthier could end up really good but it's too early to assess.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

Just because people are voting Leivo ahead of Verhaeghe

Verhaeghe
15 years old on Minor Midget team - 1.42PPG
16 years old in OHL - 0.26PPG
17 years old in OHL - 0.66PPG
18 years old in OHL - 1.26PPG

Leivo
15 years old on Minor Midget team - 0.93PPG
16 years old on Midget team - 1.19PPG
17 years old in OHL - 0.46PPG
18 years old in OHL - 1.11PPG
19 years old in OHL - 1.16PPG
20 years old in AHL - 0.71PPG

Verhaeghe has outproduced Leivo at every single stage of their careers, the only difference is that he has one year ahead in terms of development, but you guys carry on voting for Leivo. As far as Gauthier is concerned, safe pick but if he can't produce PPG in the QMJHL then I have serious doubts about his offensive game at the next level, yet this is supposed to be our 3rd best prospects. Almost as headshake worthy as people voting a 23 year old Peter Holland who hasn't yet cracked an NHL roster as our 2nd best prospect.

Anyways, carry on with this ranking

 

[member 147413]

Voted Gauthier

It's very hard to predict where players end up and everything from pedigree to production to likelihood of reaching their potential makes this all very subjective.

Brown, Leivo, Verhaeghe and Percy are all good prospects, but Gauthier is just a very safe pick for me.

 

[ChrisCall]

Nobody really thinks much of Connor Brown do they...

I've been saying since 2010 that Brown has 1st line upside...
Meh.

 

[Drew311]

Just because people are voting Leivo ahead of Verhaeghe

Verhaeghe
15 years old on Minor Midget team - 1.42PPG
16 years old in OHL - 0.26PPG
17 years old in OHL - 0.66PPG
18 years old in OHL - 1.26PPG

Leivo
15 years old on Minor Midget team - 0.93PPG
16 years old on Midget team - 1.19PPG
17 years old in OHL - 0.46PPG
18 years old in OHL - 1.11PPG
19 years old in OHL - 1.16PPG
20 years old in AHL - 0.71PPG

Verhaeghe has outproduced Leivo at every single stage of their careers, the only difference is that he has one year ahead in terms of development, but you guys carry on voting for Verhaeghe. As far as Gauthier is concerned, safe pick but if he can't produce PPG in the QMJHL then I have serious doubts about his offensive game at the next level, yet this is supposed to be our 3rd best prospects. Almost as headshake worthy as people voting a 23 year old Peter Holland who hasn't yet cracked an NHL roster as our 2nd best prospect.

Anyways, carry on with this ranking

Leivo just put up a 23 goal pro rookie season, which could have been 30 if he played the full AHL season. He's proven he can produce against men, Verhaeghe hasn't. That's the difference.

How Gauthier is winning this poll is beyond me.

 

[Teeder9]

Leivo just put up a 23 goal pro rookie season. He's proven he can produce against men, Verhaeghe hasn't. That's the difference.

They're pretty comparable players in something like this. I like both but it'll take more than Verhaeghe's good 18 year season and Leivo's 23 goals in the AHL for them to make the NHL regularly. Hoping though

 

[Drew311]

They're pretty comparable players in something like this. I like both but it'll take more than Verhaeghe's good 18 year season and Leivo's 23 goals in the AHL for them to make the NHL regularly. Hoping though

I agree. My point is that I take a good AHL season over a good CHL season. Verhaeghe hasn't had the opportunity to prove himself as a pro, which is why I take Leivo over him at the moment, as he's currently the more proven prospect.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

People voting Bibeau .. ?

Leivo.

 

[Ace88*]

I say Carter Verhaeghe. Quote me on it, this kid will make the nhl

 

[Alexanderthe89]

I'd love it if we were able to see what Carter Ashton could do with some half-decent linemates and more than a couple minutes of ice time. For the record, I voted for Leivo but if we're looking at AHL success it's hard to argue what Ashton did last year.

 

[Renegade]

Voted Leivo, chose him because I think he's the closest to NHL ready and looks like he has legit top 6 potential. Percy is also pretty close, I would've put him ahead of Finn.

Runner ups: Gauthier, Brown, Verhaeghe.