Jbcraig1883
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Just out of curiosity, what were Vanek's turnovers, points against 5v5, etc. in comparison to everyone?
It's his style, not production, that turns people off. If he played like Parise and had the same stats, people would love him.
Vanek,Suter,Pominville,Kuemper,Haula
And Vanek...to be honest, we shouldn't be disappointed. He delivered exactly what he's famous for.
It's not even a "Bash Vanek Train". He got ripped to shreds by NBC guys during the Chicago series and for a good reason. Last season he was completely useless in playoffs too and got much harsher criticism than he has ever got here. Minnesota media is quite soft, really. Bashing Vanek is not something stupid Wild fans do. The reality is like you said: guy makes astonishingly stupid plays with the puck night in night out, turns pucks over, not even trying to get them back. Backchecking to Vanek is poking his stick lazily in the general direction of opposing player. Hell, that's his concept of forechecking too. Now, to justify that level of general ineptitude would take big offensive production. 20 goals certainly does not earn him a pass for not playing hockey.
Millbury was the only one I heard criticize Vanek and he is not really a "great" hockey mind.Sure Vanek went the playoffs without a goal,it happens,Hossa had gone twenty some playoff games before his goal the other night.Also it wasn't as though he did not produce any points during the playoffs,sure he needs to score more goals but the amount of **** he has gotten is a bit out of order.
Koivu and Granlund are our top 2 centers have a look at their numbers and tell me that they are good enough to be the 1c 2c on any nhl team.
And the fact that Vanek was tied for 5th on the team in points (4 assist) means that while he did not score any goals he was still involved in offensive production,though that production dried up against the hawks not just with Vanek but the entire team.Hossa also is an extremely good 2-way forward so even when he's not scoring his defense is an asset to the Hawks. Vanek isn't so multi-dimensional.
Coyle, Nino, vanek all need to step up their game. I agree with haula being disappointing too. Fontaine didn't progress like we all wanted either
30 points in the bottom six with no PP time isn't too bad for what he is.
Coyle, Nino, vanek all need to step up their game. I agree with haula being disappointing too. Fontaine didn't progress like we all wanted either
Hard not to be disappointed in anyone other than Dubs and Parise, only two to "bring it" in a large majority of their games.....
Most disappointing: Vanek. And it's not even close. Before the season I was cautiously optimistic, now I just hate his guts.
I wasn't as high on Kuemper as many here, but he's still a big disappointment. I just hope he can bounce back from this nightmare of a year and grow as a player.
Haula was a big letdown.
I expected more from Granlund. He stepped his game up in the playoffs, which is great, but he needs to do more in the regular season. Show us how it's done in 15-16, MG64.
Vanek is the easy whipping boy. As he has always been. That's too easy. When Vanek was brought in he was immediately the whipping boy, and was the entire season. The scapegoat. That's too easy.
No, Vanek actually helped this team from January-March, and obviously we had high HOPES but we also knew what we were getting. All offense.
The real disappointments are those who didn't give us warning. Haula, Pomminville, and ...for me it's Coyle. He has shown signs of amazing winger and also signs of the opposite, but nothing set in stone, the same way a prospect is viewed. Well, he needed to take a big step forward, if not for himself, for the TEAM. And he didn't. Granlund could make this list but honestly with his injury trouble I can't put him on here.
For weeks down the stretch this was an excellent line. Now tell me how many shifts they played in the playoffs...Vanek didn't show any chemistry with the top players on this team. While his production alongside Fontaine/Coyle was quite impressive, it was still a disappointing season overall and the playoffs only made it worse.