Speculation: 2014-15 Stars Trade Talk 3: We Decompose

[tjcurrie]

I think what he means is that Stafford set the bar kinda high for himself a few seasons back, and hasn't lived up to those standards in the last few. He showed, then kind of fell off and has been real inconsistent. Leaves you wanting more. If he never had the couple real good seasons, then there wouldn't be a lot of merit to it.

 

[Satan]

They retained half of the 4M? I wish Capgeek still existed to see how much room WPG has to play with at the TDL.

 

[BigG44]

I'm surprised many people seem happy about the idea of adding Enroth. That's a going for it move. I'm all for it if the cost isn't too steep. It gives you two weeks to try and make up ground. If you don't, you could still trade the other UFA, and Enroth is auditioning for next season.

There aren't a ton of goalie options out there.

 

[tjcurrie]

I wonder if Buffalo would be up for flipping Bogo. I'd certainly like to obtain him in a deal involving Enroth as well.

 

[TrillMike]

I wonder if Buffalo would be up for flipping Bogo. I'd certainly like to obtain him in a deal involving Enroth as well.

I like your thinking.

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

So if it comes down to it. Bogo and Enroth for...anyone not named Nuke, Klingberg, or Ritchie.

 

[Primetimey*]

Four under achievers traded for each other. Hard to say who wins because it depends on who plays up to potential after the deal.

 

[dechire]

I'm surprised many people seem happy about the idea of adding Enroth. That's a going for it move. I'm all for it if the cost isn't too steep. It gives you two weeks to try and make up ground. If you don't, you could still trade the other UFA, and Enroth is auditioning for next season.

There aren't a ton of goalie options out there.

For another position maybe but goalies are cheap. Minnesota got Dubnyk for a 3rd and he's their starter now. Enroth is not going to get more than that.

 

[usefulfiction]

I wonder if Buffalo would be up for flipping Bogo. I'd certainly like to obtain him in a deal involving Enroth as well.

ask your source! make it happen tj!

 

[Dallasman]

Enroth rumor out there more so now.

Mentioned on Sportsnet Central.

As for Stafford, for being as good as he was early he's really fallen off. I know he plays on a poor Buffalo team. Maybe this will get him going?

 

[BigG44]

They retained half of the 4M? I wish Capgeek still existed to see how much room WPG has to play with at the TDL.

Myers' cap hit is $5.5 vs. about $5.15 for Bogosian. Kane is $5.25 vs. $4 (now $2) for Stafford.

According to NHL Numbers, Peg has $6.834 right now. That would translate to over $20 million in cap hits they could add today. That number will grow slightly until the deadline.

 

[Brand New Stars]

So if it comes down to it. Bogo and Enroth for...anyone not named Nuke, Klingberg, or Ritchie.

I'd probably do Ritchie for both.

 

[glovesave_35]

Idk why you'd move Bogosian for futures when he's only 25 years old at the start of next season

You mean Buffalo?

They might very well keep him, I just don't see a real good reason for Buffalo to trade a defenseman most agree is better around the same age in the first place unless the big picture is to make another big move soon or at the deadline. I can think of a lot of teams who would like to add a Bogosian for the stretch run/playoffs while his relative cap hit for the end of this season is so low.

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

I'd probably do Ritchie for both.

Eh...I could see it. I'd hate to see Ritchie go there.

 

[JeffP]

is this any less helpful than capgeek? http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

i know its uglier and harder to read.. but thats how the hershey squirts

 

[aloonda*]

bogosian and enroth to stars does make a lot of sense

 

[BigG44]

FWIW ... they have Dallas at $3.78 million in cap space. That number can't be prorated.

Dallas is currently over the cap so that number includes LTIR for Peverley and Dallas' bonus cushion they could use.

They are using the bonus cushion as $1.736. I personally wouldn't. I'd only use Nuke's. That would bring down Dallas' space to $3.244 million. All of that is Pev's LTIR for the most part.

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

Be weird if we got Enroth + Bogo for Ritchie and a 3rd.

 

[BigG44]

Enroth rumor out there more so now.

Mentioned on Sportsnet Central.

As for Stafford, for being as good as he was early he's really fallen off. I know he plays on a poor Buffalo team. Maybe this will get him going?

Not a new source. They're quoting Barnaby.

 

[Timani]

Eh...I could see it. I'd hate to see Ritchie go there.

What do you guys think about Oleksiak instead.

Enroth and Bogo for
Oleksiak, Lindback and something else not named Ritchie...maybe even Shore.

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

What do you guys think about Oleksiak instead.

Enroth and Bogo for
Oleksiak, Lindback and something else not named Ritchie...maybe even Shore.

I don't think Oleksiak is going anywhere. But I'd do Ritchie and Lindback.

 

[Dallasman]

What do you guys think about Oleksiak instead.

Enroth and Bogo for
Oleksiak, Lindback and something else not named Ritchie...maybe even Shore.

I could see Oleksiak going in a deal somewhere.
But we'd need to move a little cap space for that deal...not much wiggle room there...but I could be wrong.

 

[BigG44]

For another position maybe but goalies are cheap. Minnesota got Dubnyk for a 3rd and he's their starter now. Enroth is not going to get more than that.

Dubnyk wasn't a starter when he was traded, and unless the rumor about Bernier being available is true, Enroth is the best potential goalie available at the deadline.

USUALLY ... goalies don't cost much so I'm hoping no more than a 3rd as well ... hopefully they'd let us do next years since Dallas has two.

 

[Zrhutch]

What do you guys think about Oleksiak instead.

Enroth and Bogo for
Oleksiak, Lindback and something else not named Ritchie...maybe even Shore.

Sold to the man in the khaki jacket

 

[Dallasman]

Not a new source. They're quoting Barnaby.

No, not a new source but the rumor is being picked up by someone else now.

I'll wait until Dreger or McKenzie say something to get excited...