2013 training camp thread
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bah. I still don't like Granny there. He kinda ruins the flow of that 3rd line, and it's dumb to have him on the 4th, even if yeo wants his 'unconventional' 4th line.
granny to iowa
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youvegotit
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Omg this is pure gold. If you don't think Lidstrom put more people in the seats then Mike Green, I really don't know what to say. A guy who NEVER missed the playoffs in 20 seasons (his entire NHL career), won 4 Stanley cups, 7 Norris trophies, an Olympic gold medal and was a 12 time NHL all-star just to name some of his accomplishments compared to the flash-in-the-pan Mike Green, really?
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Glad to hear it, long overdue. Why do you say "surprisingly"?
Also, brace yourselves for boneheaded linesmen calls for the first few weeks.
meh, hybrid icing doesnt really solve any of the injury risks, no touch icing is the only solution
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Been waiting for someone to say this out loud, its kinda ridiculous indeed. Being able to balance out the realism and natural bias for rooting someone is something that should be applied more here. Same with MG etc. But you gotta keep in mind, hockey is our national treasure, and now that NHL is more accessible than ever homies root for homeboys and often develop symphaties to a certain team with their favorite player(s).
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llamapalooza
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It doesn't matter if Koivu's a "star" or a "superstar" or "the best player" or anything. What's important is that he's a really good piece to have on the team. He was never going to carry the whole team, but then, nobody does in this league. Stamkos is probably second only to Crosby in terms of talent, and yet the Lightning are abysmal. Meanwhile Crosby has Malkin, Letang, and Neal. Gretzky had Jari Kurri, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey.
The team is better with Koivu on the ice, period. Bringing in guys like Parise, Suter, Brodin, Dumba, and Coyle will take some pressure off of him in the long run, and he will likewise make those players better. That's all that really matters at this point.
The team is better with Koivu on the ice, period. Bringing in guys like Parise, Suter, Brodin, Dumba, and Coyle will take some pressure off of him in the long run, and he will likewise make those players better. That's all that really matters at this point.
Koivu and Parise are equal skill wise IMO
since Suter is our best player i guess he is the "franchise" player?
new top 50
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=432765
17. Suter
23. Parise
50. Koivu
since Suter is our best player i guess he is the "franchise" player?
Parise above Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, and Tavares?
Not so sure about that TSN list.
new top 50
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=432765
17. Suter
23. Parise
50. Koivu
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Rumor had it that the forwards would vote against the change because they did not have much danger with or without the rule. That's why I was surprised it pasted.
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Puhis
Nah.
Much better!
I'd say Suter is our franchise player.
I wouldn't, at least not yet.
Koivu, as for now, is our franchise player. He's spent his entire career here, he's the captain and he's very good in what he does.
Let's get back to this question once Parise and Suter have played a couple of seasons here. But right know, it's Koivu. And it's not even close.
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Why the hell are we arguing about someone else's definition of a completely subjective term like "franchise player" or "star?" Root for whomever the hell you want...
It's not a new hockey season unless we have a debate about Koivu's value to the team. The only thing missing is the annual "Should he be captain" thread. 
He's more valuable to this team than to others. But he sure ticked me off in the last game. That said, when he's on....he's really on. But when he starts taking those lazy penalties.....
He's more valuable to this team than to others. But he sure ticked me off in the last game. That said, when he's on....he's really on. But when he starts taking those lazy penalties.....
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I respectfully disagree. Parise is one of the best wingers in the league as where Koivu is the second best 2nd line center in the league (behind Malkin).
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isnt life as a msg board poster eggsellent? we are getting better but its just too freakin slow 4 me! go wild, go crazy but not both. done! we win! yabba dabba doo! (i may be pui)
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