Confirmed with Link: [2013] [TB/OTT] Ben Bishop to TB for Cory Conacher and a 4th round pick

[The Macho King]

I'm stepping back from the ledge a bit...

When trying to think of our forward group next year, I kept having trouble finding spots for people, namely Conacher. Our top line is set right now with great balance. A second line of Purcell/Vinny/blank is probably better served with a big body like Pouliot or a guy with more finish like Connolly, and I love a third line of Panik/Palat/Johnson as a solid defensive/offensive line. Conacher can't play as a fourth liner. Moving him now, when his value is high is smart. Not the trade I would make, but we'll see how it works out in the long run.

Hey - Not a bad post from me pretty early on after the initial shock wore off.

 

[DFC]

Anyone know what that 4th pick turned into??

 

[dechire]

Anyone know what that 4th pick turned into??

Tobias Lindberg, part of the blockbuster Phaneuf trade. Seems to be an okay prospect but nothing special. Better than most 4th rounders though.

 

[HoseEmDown]

...

Wtf

This was your initial reaction though. I was the only voice of reason, as always, in the first 10 pages.

 

[The Macho King]

This was your initial reaction though. I was the only voice of reason, as always, in the first 10 pages.

I was just shocked - that's not a negative reaction. That's a surprised reaction.

 

[Hoek]

I didn't post here at the time but I was shocked at first but got over it pretty quick. I knew how good Bishop was because I had him in fantasy... and then I stupidly didn't keep him for the subsequent season, lol.

 

[DFC]

I remember being pumped that TB got a goalie, then being really disappointed when I saw that we gave up Conacher. Disappointed/scared. I thought it was crazy that WE added the pick. I looked at it as an okay move by that night, because we were just so, so, so desperate for goaltending at the time. And I was aware of the dip that Conacher's numbers had taken. I think I wrote an article about it, way back when I liked to do that. But, to think Conacher wouldn't even be in the NHL right now? I don't think anyone could have predicted that.

This was yet another night where Ottawa fans must have thought about that trade multiple times. Bishop was, once again, incredible.

 

[FDfranklin]

I always wonder if Conacher would have fizzled out with us like he did elsewhere or continue to strive on the Bolts if we didn't trade him.

 

[DFC]

I always wonder if Conacher would have fizzled out with us like he did elsewhere or continue to strive on the Bolts if we didn't trade him.

My guess is: fizzle. He was already fizzling when we traded him. It was something like 5 points in his last 25 games. His numbers were buoyed by a terrific start to the year.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I always wonder if Conacher would have fizzled out with us like he did elsewhere or continue to strive on the Bolts if we didn't trade him.

He was starting to fizzle out before the trade. He had 18 points in the first 19 games then 6 in the final 16, they knew he was a flash in the pan.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

If Bishop continues this pace, is there any way he does not win the Veznia this year? Leads league in GAA (2.04) and is third in save % among goalies playing more than 30 games (.926). Absolutely amazing.

 

[The Macho King]

If Bishop continues this pace, is there any way he does not win the Veznia this year? Leads league in GAA (2.04) and is third in save % among goalies playing more than 30 games (.926). Absolutely amazing.

Lol. He's not winning the Vezina. He hasn't had the storylines for it.

 

[Hoek]

He might have to settle for the Jennings, though he's gonna need help from Vasilevskiy. We're 7 GA behind the Kings at the moment.

 

[talkinaway]

This bump scared the crap out of me. All I read was "[TB/OTT] Ben Bishop to..." and I thought we traded Bishop and was about to lose my s***

The bump caused at least one fan from another fan base click in to see what the hell was going on....namely, me. Ugh, clickbait.

 

[DFC]

If Bishop continues this pace, is there any way he does not win the Veznia this year? Leads league in GAA (2.04) and is third in save % among goalies playing more than 30 games (.926). Absolutely amazing.

He might get a rush of cult/sexy pick/under the radar votes, but it's probably Holtby's year. I'm hoping Bish gets a nomination though. And, if we end the year on a high note, he might make the race close because, again, it'll be a sort of sexy alternative to the near consensus pick.

There's a good argument (that'll never be heard) that Bish should get a Hart nomination too. No one's going to pry the award away from Kane, especially considering last year's disappointing scoring race. But, if not for Bishop's heroics in the early part of the season, we're not in the playoffs. Even now that we're winning, he's more often than not a key factor in the victories. He saved the season, pretty much single-handedly. But no one who wasn't paying attention--and most hockey writers weren't--will ever know that.

 

[Steazy Doo]

Crabby Williams with the voice of reason

 

[Hoek]

He definitely deserves a Vezina nomination at least. Madness if he doesn't. He was a finalist before with a lesser season.

 

[BigBlueReg]

Lol the early reactions.

Considering Bernier, Schneider and Bishop were the 3 that were going to be moving at that time, we ended up winning by getting Ben. He's the best out of those 3 with Schneider close behind. Feels good looking back and seeing how wrong or how bad we hated it, and it worked out.

Schneider is better. He has better numbers playing for a total garbage team. You would have won the cup with Schneider in net.

 

[Sky04]

Schneider is better. He has better numbers playing for a total garbage team. You would have won the cup with Schneider in net.

Not really considering Schneider doesn't score goals.

 

[Coopers Gum]

Crabby Williams with the voice of reason

Yeah, whatever happened to that guy?

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

Lol. He's not winning the Vezina. He hasn't had the storylines for it.

Lol? He has the best numbers in the league and Holtby is fading. He is a certain finalist and should win. Its for the best goalie in the league and he has the best numbers in the league, seems pretty logical.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

Schneider is better. He has better numbers playing for a total garbage team. You would have won the cup with Schneider in net.

He certainly does not have better numbers right now.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

He might get a rush of cult/sexy pick/under the radar votes, but it's probably Holtby's year. I'm hoping Bish gets a nomination though. And, if we end the year on a high note, he might make the race close because, again, it'll be a sort of sexy alternative to the near consensus pick.

There's a good argument (that'll never be heard) that Bish should get a Hart nomination too. No one's going to pry the award away from Kane, especially considering last year's disappointing scoring race. But, if not for Bishop's heroics in the early part of the season, we're not in the playoffs. Even now that we're winning, he's more often than not a key factor in the victories. He saved the season, pretty much single-handedly. But no one who wasn't paying attention--and most hockey writers weren't--will ever know that.

Not that you suggested this, but I am not a fan of the commonly believed thought that Holtby should win the vezina because of his win total. Win total is highly team dependent and the caps have been playing out of their minds all year.

 

[Sky04]

Lol. He's not winning the Vezina. He hasn't had the storylines for it.

Thought about that too but his stats are far too impressive right now.

3 most deserving candidates thus far should be Bishop, Mrazek and Schneider. Holtby's stats aren't as impressive considering the amount of wins he has, he's 10th in save % and GAA. Crawford has an amazing save % but his GAA is significantly higher than Bishops.

 

[The Macho King]

Thought about that too but his stats are far too impressive right now.

3 most deserving candidates thus far should be Bishop, Mrazek and Schneider. Holtby's stats are as impressive considering the amount of wins he has, he's 10th in save % and GAA. Crawford has an amazing save % but his GAA is significantly higher than Bishops.

I mean - I agree. But I don't get to vote on the Vezina.

We'll see I guess.