2013 Draft Thread (Part 2) #8, 16, 38, 55, 69, (94), 129, 130, (155), 159, 189

[jfb392]

What are the knocks on Zadorov?
No offensive upside? Richard Smehlik 2.0?

Just curious, thanks.

He's big and can skate but I don't think the smarts are there.

JFB... humor me
If the Sabres are drafting 9th... and the first 8 picks are:
Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Lindholm, Ristolainen, Monahan, Nurse

Who are your options at #9? (assuming no trade down scenarios)

Pulock.

After that, I think I'd trade down.

JFB,

What is your impression of Mantha,

Besides his team getting smoked last night in Q action, he is a prospect who scored 50 this year and owns great size on the wing. He is older for his class but what is your opinion? Someone to target with Minnesota's pick or will he be taken beforehand?

He may end up being taken before the Minnesota pick, but he could easily fall below that too.
He's very much an enigma, similar to Armia.

As far as the Sabres go, I think I'd pass.
Skill is needed but I'm not sure I want to keep having to sacrifice all other areas for skill.

 

[Ralonzo]

Any interest in Samuel Morin with the STL second? 6'7", nasty, mobile, left shooting D who can throw down. As long as we're on that eternal quest for a stay-at-home guy to pair off with Myers.

 

[sjci]

Todays QMJHL Games

MacKinnon = 1 assist, +1, and 18/25 (72%) on Faceoffs
Drouin = 1 assist, +2
Fucale = 13/13 saves, earning shutout
Erne = 2 goals, 1 assist, +2, 7 Hits

 

[Woodhouse]

Wolves aren’t showing their teeth:

Nicholas Baptiste began his second campaign in the Nickel City by reinventing himself in the second half and playing with more urgency offensively. The results were favourable for the former sixth-overall priority selection pick, and Baptiste set career-highs in goals (21), assists (27) and points with 48.

Baptiste’s second half resurgence didn’t, however, include an upgrade in terms of physical play, one area that could still be improved.

Nicholas Baptiste (RW, 2013), Sudbury

Baptiste has been able to salvage his season in the second half by playing with far more offensive consistency .. a strong, powerful skater who is not overly graceful or fluid, yet pumps his feet hard and digs his edges into the ice .. not an overly-creative player, he can be a bit of a puck chaser in the offensive zone but when given a chance to set up below the dots, he usually makes a strong play .. can use and shift his body to get an inside track on a defender inching his way closer to the net and always has his head up to survey a play .. still needs to move his feet as he can lose focus when a play has shifted the other direction .. could make himself more serviceable by applying himself more physically and by going hard to the net and maintaining position .. lacks offensive hockey sense, which will hinder his chances playing in a top-six role .. his size, skating ability and propensity to keeping the game simple will earn him recognition as a player who is low-maintenance and can play in the bottom portion of your depth chart.

 

[couture23]

Wolves aren’t showing their teeth:

Wonder where he will go in the draft, maybe 3rd-4th round?

 

[Woodhouse]

Wonder where he will go in the draft, maybe 3rd-4th round?

I'd agree, Baptiste's probably a third- or fourth-round pick. His stock soured after a real slow start, but he still has his size, mobility and secondary scorer skill set.

 

[Chainshot]

Looking at the last decade of #7-10 picks has me less than thrilled if their course holds.

 

[SECRET SQUIRREL]

Looking at the last decade of #7-10 picks has me less than thrilled if their course holds.

It sucks.... horrible friggen year that we all have had to suffer through and in the end it still wont even get us near a 3 top pick. :suicidal emoticon:

 

[1972]

oh well, even at #10 we should get a very good prospect

Drouin
Jones
MacKinnon
Barkov
Lindholm
Nurse
Ristolainen
Nichushkin
Shinkaruk

I would be quite happy with any of those guys

 

[jfb392]

oh well, even at #10 we should get a very good prospect

Drouin
Jones
MacKinnon
Barkov
Lindholm
Nurse
Ristolainen
Nichushkin
Shinkaruk

I would be quite happy with any of those guys

I only see nine there though and I wouldn't classify all of them as "very good".

 

[1972]

I only see nine there though and I wouldn't classify all of them as "very good".

You hate Nichushkin though, him and Shinkaruk would be the 2 with the question marks

 

[SoFFacet]

I can find 8 that I'd be happy with. Jones, Mac, Drouin, Barkov, Lindholm, Monahan, Nurse, Nichushki.

 

[SatanwasaSlovak]

You think Burakovsky would fall into our hands?

 

[sjci]

If we pick between 8-10

Jones, Mac, Drouin, Barkov, Monahan, Lindholm, and Nurse are the 7 I'd be happy with

Of those however, at pick 8-10 I really only see Nurse, Monahan and Lindholm as a small possibility

Ristolainen, Nichushkin, Shinkaruk, and Pulock Are who Id be settled for, or meh towards.

Mantha, Erne, Zadarov, etc I would be mad we didn't trade down as those players would all be too early, or I don't really want them

 

[1972]

Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Johathan Drouin
Aleksander Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Rasmus Ristolainen
Hunter Shinkaruk
Anthony Mantha
Bo Horvat
Curtis Lazar
Ryan Pulock
Adam Erne
Nikita Zadarov
Frederick Gauthier
Robert Haag
Max Domi
Alexander Wennberg
Valeri Nichushkin (could go top 10, or fall past 20)
Jason Dickenson
who do you pick here? try and get a stud goaltender in Fucale?

 

[1972]

Seems like after the first 4 picks this draft is going to be very difficult to predict. I mean a guy like Dickenson, Horvat, Nichushkin, ect could go anywhere from 7-25

 

[Beerz]

Kinda makes you wish we asked for Nash 1st this year instead of last years.... damnit.

Hindsight really is 20/20.

 

[Zip15]

Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Johathan Drouin
Aleksander Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
Rasmus Ristolainen
Hunter Shinkaruk
Anthony Mantha
Bo Horvat
Curtis Lazar
Ryan Pulock
Adam Erne
Nikita Zadarov
Frederick Gauthier
Robert Haag
Max Domi
Alexander Wennberg
Valeri Nichushkin (could go top 10, or fall past 20)
Jason Dickenson
who do you pick here? try and get a stud goaltender in Fucale?

I don't think so. Fucale sounds like he's going to be a good one, but goaltenders are too...uncertain. If we really want a goaltender, I'd prefer getting the second- or third-best one with a 2nd rounder.

 

[1972]

I don't think so. Fucale sounds like he's going to be a good one, but goaltenders are too...uncertain. If we really want a goaltender, I'd prefer getting the second- or third-best one with a 2nd rounder.

Who would you want in this spot? Assuming this is how the draft went (it wont)

 

[Beerz]

Is Max Domi...who I think it is?

 

[sjci]

Is Max Domi...who I think it is?

Yupp, his son. Way more offense though

 

[1972]

Yupp, his son. Way more offense though

ya, slightly

 

[Zip15]

Who would you want in this spot? Assuming this is how the draft went (it wont)

Not sure, frankly. But I'm with the others who are of the mind that it's easier to find goaltenders later on, whereas it's tougher to find top-end players as the draft progresses.

Kerby Rychel's production has always impressed me, but I'd defer to Woodhouse and JFB and the others who know more about the prospects than I do.

 

[sjci]

Seth Jones
Nathan MacKinnon
Johathan Drouin
Aleksander Barkov
Elias Lindholm
Sean Monahan
Darnell Nurse
.
.
.
:

If that's how it went,

A) I'd want the Sabres to try and trade with either Carolina or Nashville to move up and grab Lindholm or Monahan. If we couldn't and picked Nurse, and it went how you think, or at least those players went, I'd want one of

Rychel, Domi, Hartman, Zykov, Fucale, or Morrissey

 

[1972]

Not sure, frankly. But I'm with the others who are of the mind that it's easier to find goaltenders later on, whereas it's tougher to find top-end players as the draft progresses.

Kerby Rychel's production has always impressed me, but I'd defer to Woodhouse and JFB and the others who know more about the prospects than I do.

My thoughts aswell, but with all the picks we have in the coming years I am not sure that adding a blue chip goalie prospect is a bad thing. Ultimately I don't think Buffalo will spend a top 60 pick on a goalie.