2012 NHL re-draft: Gostisbehere first overall?

[The Podium]

Ghost: 4th in NHL in 5v5 P/60 (1.29)
Rielly: 70th in NHL in 5v5 P/60 (0.77)

(400+ minutes, 203 Dmen have played 400+)

Ghost: 12th in NHL in PPP/60 (5.78)
Rielly: 54th in NHL in PPP/60 (3.27)

(100+ minutes, 70 Dmen have played 100+)




Ghost: 1st in NHL in P/60 (2.33)

And again 65.7% offensive one starts. You can't compare their 5v5 P/60. There's a 20%(!) difference.

 

[Appleyard]

And again 65.7% offensive one starts. You can't compare their 5v5 P/60. There's a 20%(!) difference.

I compared him to a pack of guys with similar minutes a few pages back... he was not exactly heads and shoulders above them. (in fact mid pack.)

Klefbom, Klein, Ristolainen, Alzner, Beuchemin, Dumoulin, Holden...

Guess we cannot say Ghost is better than any of them offensively either... but if we can compare players who play similar minutes we can say Kevin Klein, Francois Beuchemin etc are better than Rielly offensively at 5v5.

 

[Offhisgame*]

Is Ghost playing today? Because i havent noticed him once.

He wouldn't even go top 10.

 

[LeafFever]

Ghost: 4th in NHL in 5v5 P/60 (1.29)
Rielly: 70th in NHL in 5v5 P/60 (0.77)

(400+ minutes, 203 Dmen have played 400+)

Ghost: 12th in NHL in PPP/60 (5.78)
Rielly: 54th in NHL in PPP/60 (3.27)

(100+ minutes, 70 Dmen have played 100+)




Ghost: 1st in NHL in P/60 (2.33)

I was referring to all stats, not ones that you want. What about offensive zone starts?

 

[Roo Mad Bro]

Is Ghost playing today? Because i havent noticed him once.

He wouldn't even go top 10.

Much better player than your Pens Maatta and Pouliot.

 

[BHD]

Is Ghost playing today? Because i havent noticed him once.

He wouldn't even go top 10.

It's hard to notice ghosts.

Anyways, it was one game. He's looked spectacular every other time I've watched him.

 

[Dabest]

It's hard to notice ghosts.

Anyways, it was one game. He's looked spectacular every other time I've watched him.

Amazing

 

[zar]

Schultz hasn't even sniffed a tenth of the success Ghost has actually already had.

Justin Schultz as a 22 year old rookie...
48GP 8G 19A 27P = .56 ppg
Offensively talented D rookie

Gostisbehere as a 22 year old rookie...
52GP 16G 23A 39P = .75ppg
Offensively talented D rookie

Not far off. Don't get too excited.

 

[Offhisgame*]

And schultz played on a terrible oilers team while ghost is on a high powered flyers team

 

[rhinoshawarma]

And schultz played on a terrible oilers team while ghost is on a high powered flyers team

I wouldn't call the flyers high powered... They're pretty decent but Ghost has been a big boost to put them in playoff contention

 

[Voight]

Much better player than your Pens Maatta and Pouliot.

I would take Maatta over Gostisbehere 8 days a week.

 

[Voight]

Lol cmon now, 1 season and he's better than all those guys? Remember Myers winning the calder, would you take him 1st overall?

Bingo.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Lol beating a dead horse here by keep using per /60
Instead of ev points per game, I have already proven why the former is flawed and the latter is not too funny by keep using it when you have been proven wrong

 

[WarriorofTime]

I would take Maatta over Gostisbehere 8 days a week.

Homer opinion.

 

[GhostIsBae]

He hits this one off the post, but man, what a play! Only select few in the NHL can pull that off.

 

[Tripod]

I don't think we need every Ghost thread bumped.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

No No nO no

Look, I want Ghost to father my children (I'm a man btw), but we can't bump his threads when he does something good.

That's how you turn a player into an enemy of the state on HF (Toews).

 

[izzy]

I think he's still behind Forsberg, Rielly and Lindholm for sure. Close with Parayko

 

[Sasso09]

I would take Maatta over Gostisbehere 8 days a week.

El oh el

 

[Juicy Pop]

And again 65.7% offensive one starts. You can't compare their 5v5 P/60. There's a 20%(!) difference.

Now tell me how significant the effect should be based on that OZS% discrepancy.

Are there diminishing returns?

 

[PEI Flyers Fan]

I would take Maatta over Gostisbehere 8 days a week.

This made me lol. C'mon buddy take the glasses off.

 

[jacks*]

Justin Schultz as a 22 year old rookie...
48GP 8G 19A 27P = .56 ppg
Offensively talented D rookie

Gostisbehere as a 22 year old rookie...
52GP 16G 23A 39P = .75ppg
Offensively talented D rookie

Not far off. Don't get too excited.

Not that far off

.56PPG compared to .75PPG.

 

[Treb]

I think he's still behind Forsberg, Rielly and Lindholm for sure. Close with Parayko

Galchenyuk?

 

[Ranksu]

#1 OV - 2012 draft

 

[Sasso09]

Ghost/Lindblom
Forsberg
Rielly
Galchenyuk
Parayko