2012 NHL Draft Top-100 (Combined from RLR, FC and ISS)

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  1. Tormentor

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    The ranking was combined from the following 2012 NHL Entry Draft rankings:
    - Red Line Report top-70
    - Future Considerations top-60
    - International Scouting Services top-50

    In total there were 96 different players on these lists, so a few players were added to the end to make it a top-100.

    A few questions:
    - Any surprises?
    - Who do you think are the biggest omissions from the list?
    - How would you rank the players from your league/country of expertise?

    This might be a good chance for us to try to educate each other about this draft class. All input would be appreciated.


    2012 NHL Draft Top-100:
     
  2. YARR123

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    Great work! Interesting to see the differences between different agencies. Interesting that ISS rates Ville Pokka at #16 while the other two don't have him rated at all. Looks like finlands got a few nice prospects, didn't know they were so highly regarded.

    Where did you find the lists btw?
     
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    Zemgus Grigensons potentially first latvian first rounder ever? Everything can happen in a year but he seems to be stud. Rihards Bukarts is one of the top prosects for the 2014 draft for sure but everything can happen in 3 year.
     
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  4. Latex*

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    Thank you Tormentor. Much appreciated, as always.


    BTW: Torniainen plays for HIFK now.
     
  5. BobbyRyan9

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    No way does Dillon Fournier goes as late as 92 in the draft. He should go in the second round, probably the 35-50 range in my opinion. This guy should have a big season on the blueline in Baie-Comeau.
     
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    here is a question

    is next years draft deeper then this one
     
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    How did you work out the rankings?

    No.53 Dalton Thrower is ranked 39th by 1 of the 3 agencies and not ranked at all by the other two.

    No.54 Nikolai Prokhorkin is ranked 19th by 1 of the 3 agencies and not ranked at all by the other two.

    Seems to me that Prokhorkin should be above Thrower?
     
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    It's still a long ways to go so there's no "no way" yet. He might go undrafted if he has a bad season next year
     
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    Gustav Rydahl switched from Färjestad to Frölunda.
     
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    I'd say it is if you want a defenseman, but this year's draft is deeper for the forwards.
     
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    Awesome list! Will be fun tracking 2012
     
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    I honestly dont see how ciampini is still being ranked in the top 30 after his season last year, unless the scouts are assuming he will have a big season this season coming up. He was barely effective outside of the offensive zone and he wasnt that effective there either. Some q scouts I have talked to suggest he might not even get drafted and I was thinking maybe late rounds.
     
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    Anyone know if Matheson will report to Shawinigan or he is going to USHL next year? Since Shawi is going to present Memorial Cup in 2012, is it a sufficient argument to make him come?
     
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    If Määttä’s development continues on a good track he could very well be a first rounder next year. Personally I wouldn’t have Pokka, Teräväinen or Torniainen in the top-60 at the moment, but that’s just my opinion.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Girgensons next season, because Stanislav Galiev (Season 2008-2009) and Seth Ambroz (Season 2009-2010) also had productive seasons in the USHL at this age.


    …And Calle Andersson has moved from Malmö to Färjestad. The stats in the chart are from 2010-2011 season, so the players are still listed with their old teams.

    The equation was ((71-RLR#)+(61-FC#)+(51-ISS#)):
    1. Nail Yakupov (71-1)+(61-1)+(51-2)=179
    2. Ryan Murray (71-3)+(61-2)+(51-3)=68+59+48=175
    3. Nick Ebert (71-2)+(61-4)+(51-6)=69+57+45=171
    4. Jacob Trouba (71-6)+(61-6)+(51-5)=65+55+46=166
    5. Mikhail Grigorenko (71-11)+(61-5)+(51-1)=166
    6. Griffin Reinhart (71-4)+(61-8)+(51-7)=164
    7. Alex Galchenyuk (71-7)+(61-3)+(51-9)=164
    8. Morgan Rielly (71-10)+(61-7)+(51-12)=154
    9. Filip Forsberg (71-18)+(61-9)+(51-4)=152
    10. Jordan Schmaltz (71-14)+(61-13)+(51-8)=148
    ...
    53. Dalton Thrower (71-39)+(61-61)+(51-51)=32
    54. Nikolai Prokhorkin (71-71)+(61-61)+(51-19)=32

    The equation works well when the player is ranked by all three organizations, but it can distort things a bit when that’s not the case.
     
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    Outstanding as always Tormentor!
     
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    Something about that Erik Karlsson guy just screams NHLer...cant put my finger on it.
     
  17. Jamie Benn

    Jamie Benn NHL Draft Enthusiast

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    What a list! Really appreciate the effort, mind if I edit this a little bit, maybe add 50 more players or so?

    I don't agree with a couple of the rankings, but that's just me.
     
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    Can we sticky this?
     
  19. BobbyRyan9

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    The only way he goes undrafted is if he gets a major injury that takes him out for most of the season. He will be playing on a relatively weak Baie-Comeau squad and should stick out to scouts with his play. There's a reason he went number one in the QMJHL draft and in the recent dispersal draft. Out of all the players who played on Lewiston last year, which includes quite a few NHL drafted prospects, I would say that he has the best chance of playing in the NHL and that is saying a lot.
     
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    I'm really confused, didn't Fournier get picked by Royun-Noranda?
     
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    Nicely done list
     
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    Yes, my bad, I got confused because Baie-Comeau drafted first overall in the QMJHL draft. The same thing goes for Rouyn-Noranda though, a weak team that he will stand out on next year.
     
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    does someone know if both his parents is finnish?

    and nice list :thumbu:
     
  24. Jamie Benn

    Jamie Benn NHL Draft Enthusiast

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    Alright, I finished my top 150 list, I will post it tomorrow and we can compare with Tormentors.

    :)
     
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    Great work.

    Really surprised seeing how many good goalers will be eligible from Europe.
     

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