GDT: 2/23 tbl @ car

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HisIceness

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Another first career goal given up.

Sure would be nice to have one of Murphy, Sanguinetti, Jordan, Nash, and Welsh get that.
 

cptjeff

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Ellis did everything he could on that

What? No. He was out to lunch. You stay facing forward, hug the post, and slide to the other side in half a second, and hold that post. He got himself turned around, then was standing up, facing backwards when he should have been sliding across facing forwards. Then he tried to walk and fell.

Ellis was laughably incompetent on that play. Call it a brain lapse, whatever, but he should have been holding the opposite post on that shot, and he would have had it just fine.
 

Razputyn

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So Ward or Ellis tomorrow?

Ward at this point, though Ellis still fills me with more confidence

What? No. He was out to lunch. You stay facing forward, hug the post, and slide to the other side in half a second, and hold that post. He got himself turned around, then was standing up, facing backwards when he should have been sliding across facing forwards. Then he tried to walk and fell.

Ellis was laughably incompetent on that play. Call it a brain lapse, whatever, but he should have been on the opposite post.

Uh, no. There was less than a second between the two shots. It bounced right out front for a backhand the moment the skater who was already turning around the net got to it. It's hard to transition from the butterfly to a desperation save immediately behind you in less than a second.

Not "laughably incompetent".
 

cptjeff

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Uh, no. There was less than a second between the two shots. It bounced right out front for a backhand the moment the skater who was already turning around the net got to it. It's hard to transition from the butterfly to a desperation save immediately behind you in less than a second.

It should never have reached the point of a desperation save- he finished the first couple of shots standing up and facing backwards- which should never have happened. He needs to be down, and ready to side across the front of the net to the opposite post.

This is how he should have faced the initial shots, not standing up and facing backwards.
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Which leaves him in position to push across to the other side of the net very quickly- pushing across, for an NHL goalie, should take far less than a second.

Goalies deal with plays behind the net and wraparounds all the time. If he hadn't taken himself out of a ready position, that would have been a routine stop.
 

Razputyn

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It should never have reached the point of a desperation save- he finished the first couple of shots standing up and facing backwards- which should never have happened. He needs to be down, and ready to side across the front of the net to the opposite post.

This is how he should have faced the initial shots, not standing up and facing backwards.
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Which leaves him in position to push across to the other side of the net very quickly- pushing across, for an NHL goalie, should take far less than a second.

Goalies deal with plays behind the net and wraparounds all the time. If he hadn't taken himself out of a ready position, that would have been a routine stop.

He was square to the shooter initially, the puck took a good bounce and by the time he recovered the guy was already around the net. He was guilty of making a goofy attempt to recover in short order.

Not every goalie stands like Brodeur at the corner or the net like in your photo example and not every opportunity calls for it. It's easier to give up the softy when you stay on your feet and aren't square to the shooter. You don't play for the rebound that may or may not bounce in front of the net on the opposite side of the goal.

Main board post about goal:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1358635
 

cptjeff

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He was square to the shooter initially, the puck took a good bounce and by the time he recovered the guy was already around the net.

The puck's bounce was not one that should have pulled him into the position he was in. He was squared to the shooter initially. The problem came about because he forgot about doing that, and tried to chase the puck behind the net.

And yes, not every goalie stands like that. Some are a little lower with one pad on the ice, ready to slide across the ice.

I'm sorry, NHL goalies make saves on plays like that as a matter of routine. Ellis farked up. Which happens, but you should acknowledge it.
 

Anton Dubinchuk

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Don't often turn games off early but these guys don't deserve my viewership for the last 5 minutes.

I don't care how injured and depleted you are, find a way to not get destroyed by the Tampa Bay Lightning at home. Thank you.
 
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