Proposal: 1st OA pick (Patrick) for Panarin

[RememberTheRoar]

This idea came up on our team board.

If your team landed the first overall pick, would you trade if for Artemi Panarin next offseason?

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[Boondock]

This idea came up on our team board.

If your team landed the first overall pick, would you trade if for Artemi Panarin next offseason?

Not a chance. Chicago will be in cap trouble again especially if they re-sign Panarin. I wouldnt help them out by trading a 6+ million contract they might lose anyway for cap reasons for the 1st oa.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

This idea came up on our team board.

If your team landed the first overall pick, would you trade if for Artemi Panarin next offseason?

Don't see any team that gets the 2017 #1 pick, Helping out Chicago here Chicago would need to offer way more then just Panarin to give up the 2017 1st overall pick Nolan Patrick especially considering that Panarin is seeking at least 6 years $36 million from Chicago that could be far more from another team that might not be able to afford him.

 

[Mad Brills*]

For the leafs, yes, as you lock in a deadly winger for matthews for the next 6 years.

 

[gamer1035]

Leafs would never do it.

 

[Doc300c]

Would the Islanders?
Do they need another C prospect vs. a legit winger for Tavares?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

zero chance...

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Well at the moment, Panarin looks to be posting back to back 75-80 pt seasons.

The question is do you think Patrick will be producing at that rate or better in the future?

At that rate? Sure, I can agree with that, if all goes right.

Better? Meh... that would be a stretch to automatically pencil a guy in for routine 80+ in todays NHL

I would say its a fairly even swap, the main reason to decline is obviously the cost control of an ELC and bridge player, where as Panarin is obviously going to get paid long term now

 

[Nolan11]

Not a chance. Chicago will be in cap trouble again especially if they re-sign Panarin. I wouldnt help them out by trading a 6+ million contract they might lose anyway for cap reasons for the 1st oa.

Chicago has dug themselves a hole with their cap structure and are consequently losing good players because of it. I can't see anyone bailing them out for 3 more years with a top prospect on a shiny new ELC to take on a 6M+ player. Hawks would need to add to Panarin to make the real money difference (and loss of marketing a 1st overall to new fans) more palatable to the opposing GM/Owners.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Lol, according to HF every rookie center will be a PPG player in the future, but when the future comes... yeah, how many PPG centers are exactly in the league right now? How many of them were the last season?

I doubt Chicago will trade Panarin for Patrick or any other rookie. Panarin is a PPG player right now, and will Patrick be ever the one is a big question mark.

 

[Brock Radunske]

This idea came up on our team board.

If your team landed the first overall pick, would you trade if for Artemi Panarin next offseason?

Of course not. Wouldn't even think about it for a second.

 

[Brock Radunske]

For the leafs, yes, as you lock in a deadly winger for matthews for the next 6 years.

You'd trade the chance at drafting a top-pairing defenseman to acquire another small skilled winger who is looking to get paid?
Haha, Brills be Brillsin'

 

[DJJones]

Not cost controlled and he hasn't proven he can be the sole offensive driver. Plus he's a winger.

Obviously he is unbelievable talented but what about when he's not with Kane?

So not a chance.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I don't think that's the right move to make for a rebuilding team. I would be concerned with Panarin re-signing long term with a rebuilding team, and would personally prefer the cost-controlled asset.

 

[AINEC*]

Absolutely no chance.

 

[ulf]

Panaran should command 6 mill for the next 6/8 yrs.
The # 1OA will cost a lot less over that time period and stands to be a more valuable asset 8 yrs from the draft than Panaran.....so no.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Hm, another RNH/Mackinnon type of a player or a PPG winger, one of the best danglers in the game with a nasty shot... Tough choice, really tough.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Hm, another RNH/Mackinnon type of a player or a PPG winger, one of the best danglers in the game with a nasty shot... Tough choice, really tough.

That's one way to look at it. The other is: Hm, cost controlled asset or an RFA with arbitration rights that could flee back to the KHL or leave as soon he is UFA eligible. There's no guarantee that Panarin will want to sign with a rebuilding team.

 

[Vipers31]

The amount of years left before unrestricted free agency and the difference in salary/cap hit will probably make this something that almost no teams in contention for 1st overall will seriously consider.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Nope!

 

[Kshahdoo]

That's one way to look at it. The other is: Hm, cost controlled asset or an RFA with arbitration rights that could flee back to the KHL or leave as soon he is UFA eligible. There's no guarantee that Panarin will want to sign with a rebuilding team.

If it, say, Colorado. They already have Duchene and Mackinnon. What chance Patrick is better, than these guys? Yeah, very debatable. So what, to spend 1st overall for a 3C?

Of course, Chicago will never trade Panarin to Colorado. But I agree, that Panarin will hardly sign an extention with a rebuilding team, if it's not a team like Toronto with a lot of good youngsters and elite coach. But Toronto won't get 1st OA.

 

[NotYou]

Easily. It's pretty unlikely patrick gets near panarin's level. Cost difference doesn't make up for that

 

[kunekune]

Patrick Nolan is not projected to be as good as Panarin.

Making that trade is a different thing.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Patrick Nolan

Who?

Edit. Nm. Wrong order. I guess it doesn't help that I currently have a concussion.

 

[Seachd]

Easily. It's pretty unlikely patrick gets near panarin's level. Cost difference doesn't make up for that

You don't think Patrick ever gets to the level where the cost difference isn't a factor?

We're talking about Panarin, right? Like, you're not mistaking him for McDavid or something?