17-18 Mcdavid vs 13-14 Crosby

[Dion TheFluff]

Crosby easily
McDavid might reach that level one day

 

[snipes]

McDavid.

Better even strength production and did it with far less talent around him. The Oilers D could/can barely execute breakout passes.

 

[bobbyking]

Crosby

McDavid wasn't that much more dominant than his peers, either last year or the year prior. Sid was the best by a mile that year, not even close.

Yeah dominated getzlaf LOL

 

[sparxx87]

McDavid.

Better even strength production and did it with far less talent around him. The Oilers D could/can barely execute breakout passes.

Lol oh dear.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Yeah dominated getzlaf LOL

Didn’t getzlaf outscored Giroux in 13-14. The same Giroux who finished 2nd in scoring in 17-18 only 6 back of Mcdavid? Just saying..,

 

[bathdog]

Crosby still for me.

 

[daver]

Crosby's was statistically more dominant, played more of a two -way role, and was a better two way player, and played more time with players who were much lower on the team's depth charts than McDavid.

 

[daver]

McDavid.

Better even strength production and did it with far less talent around him. The Oilers D could/can barely execute breakout passes.

Interesting that he didn't do better in 16/17 on a Top Ten team.

And why isn't McDavid dominating this year given he is T4 in PP points. Isn't that the reason he did not run away with the scoring title last year?

This "ES points is everything!" narrative needs to put to bed permanently.

 

[daver]

This is a weird-ass argument being put up against Sidney "Notoriously Slow Starter" Crosby.

Care to back that up with season by season numbers?

 

[daver]

Crosby produced better. I think McDavid played slightly better though.

Based on what?

 

[daver]

McDavid's competition this season is looking better than Crosby's in 2014. It wasn't like guys like Malkin and Ovechkin were at their best that season (actually, Malkin was very productive per game but only played 60 games). Tavares (who would almost win the Art Ross in 2015) got hurt and missed games that season. Stamkos (a top two scorer in each of the previous seasons) suffered a leg injury. It wasn't a great season for high-end scoring. This season is, with guys like Kucherov, Kane, Rantanen and Gaudreau scoring at high levels.

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

[Midnight Judges]

Crosby is not any better defensively than McDavid.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Care to back that up with season by season numbers?

Not my narrative?

 

[Regal]

Based on what?

Observation and how their stats were accumulated

 

[Regal]

Didn’t getzlaf outscored Giroux in 13-14. The same Giroux who finished 2nd in scoring in 17-18 only 6 back of Mcdavid? Just saying..,

Crosby had 17 more points than Getzlaf in '14. The same Getzlaf McDavid had 47 more points than in '18. Checkmate logic!

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Crosby had 17 more points than Getzlaf in '14. The same Getzlaf McDavid had 47 more points than in '18. Checkmate logic!

Your comparing 18 getzlaf too 14 getzlaf. My bishop is looking at your king...

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Crosby is not any better defensively than McDavid.

Much better

 

[TheGuiminator]

Much better

How is he much better? Crosby isn’t elite defensively, he might be slightly better than Mcdavid but really not by much.

 

[DanM]

Man, if Sid never had all those injuries, which basically STOLE his prime, we would have seen a 130pt player, who was elite in every single facet of the game.

People really forget how dominant he was before his concussions and neck injuries.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

How is he much better? Crosby isn’t elite defensively, he might be slightly better than Mcdavid but really not by much.

Say that to his two 7th place selke finishes.

 

[DanM]

Say that to his two 7th place selke finishes.

It boggles my mind that people forget Sid before those injuries. I have not seen a more dominant player since Mario or Wayne the year he was injured, damn shame.

 

[sparxx87]

It boggles my mind that people forget Sid before those injuries. I have not seen a more dominant player since Mario or Wayne the year he was injured, damn shame.

It’s hard to think of anyone since those two that were as dominant relative to their peers as Sid was during his peak.

People have very, very short memories.

 

[Regal]

Your comparing 18 getzlaf too 14 getzlaf. My bishop is looking at your king...

Yea I am..just like you're comparing two random seasons of Giroux...

 

[TheGuiminator]

Say that to his two 7th place selke finishes.

Thank you for proving my point, cause two 7th place selke finishes make him a pretty good defensive forward, but not elite. If so, he would have won the trophy or atleast crack the top 3 a few times

 

[TheGuiminator]

Thank you for proving my point, cause two 7th place selke finishes make him a pretty good defensive forward, but not elite. If so, he would have won the trophy or atleast crack the top 3 a few times