GDT: #16 | FLYERS (H) vs. Rangers (A) | Wednesday, Feb. 24, 2021 | 7:00 pm ET | NBCSN

[BernieParent]

True but some those were healthy scratches and the time per game is still heavily in Provorov's favor. The fact that he's cemented onto the PP blows my mind. Especially when some freak out when people say that he gets gifted usage.

Regardless, my point was more "this is a nice example of why the PP has been so frustrating to watch" instead of being a strength, like it used to be.

The Hayes-led "PP1" is just a dog whistle for the opposition's top PKers, right?

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

@MiamiScreamingEagles I am listening to this, and for the seven millionth straight time, when it gets to "Bye Bye Love," my ears hear:

"It's just a f***ing alibi"

It's an orangy sky.

 

[Limeyjim]

I'm glad that Giroux will be returning, that's a step in the right direction.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

I'm glad that Giroux will be returning, that's a step in the right direction.

It certainly gives me hope they can pull off a win against an already lousy opponent without their best player (Panarin).

 

[Rebels57]

Giroux on 2nd unit again.

Kill me.

Honestly seems like this coaching staff is tanking at this point.

 

[Rebels57]

Patrick on RW with Giroux and Hayes-Bill M

I don't hate this one.

 

[Striiker]

At this point, is winning even a good thing?

All that'll do is convince these egotistical idiots that what they're doing is acceptable and prevent change. If we keep playing the way we are and we squeak into the playoffs, we have no chance at actually accomplishing anything once there. And that should be our goal, not getting unsustainable regular season wins where we deserve to lose.

 

[Tripod]

I don't hate this one.

I don't either given the rest of the options. Patrick can't "carry" a line with the rest of that bottom 6 guys.

 

[Rebels57]

I don't either given the rest of the options. Patrick can't "carry" a line with the rest of that bottom 6 guys.

If he shows well at RW it bodes well for Frost in the future too. Hell they could even end up on the same line together.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

At this point, is winning even a good thing?

All that'll do is convince these egotistical idiots that what they're doing is acceptable and prevent change. If we keep playing the way we are and we squeak into the playoffs, we have no chance at actually accomplishing anything once there. And that should be our goal, not getting unsustainable regular season wins where we deserve to lose.

I’m a fan and I’m not gonna change any minds in the organization regardless, so I’m gonna root for wins. Maybe that’s just me though.

 

[Striiker]

I’m a fan and I’m not gonna change any minds in the organization regardless, so I’m gonna root for wins. Maybe that’s just me though.

I'm not saying you shouldn't root for wins or that if you don't it'll change anything.

I'm saying winning games right now may actually get us further from a cup instead of closer.

 

[Amorgus]

G going to be a dad again.

Roses are red
Violets are Blue
Even less sleep
Will slow down Giroux

Make Ryanne take the pill until you retire!

 

[Striiker]

The last kid didn't slow him down

Don't see why this one would

f*** it. Have 80 kids and give us a chance to draft one in a couple decades.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

I'm not saying you shouldn't root for wins or that if you don't it'll change anything.

I'm saying winning games right now may actually get us further from a cup instead of closer.

We’re not playing a winning brand of hockey. I certainly agree with that. I’m still not sure how to analytically understand our current record.

 

[Amorgus]

The last kid didn't slow him down

Don't see why this one would

f*** it. Have 80 kids and give us a chance to draft one in a couple decades.

I saw the excuse on here numerous times for him and other new parents that "He's not playing well because he has a newborn at home.". I don't want to take any chances.

 

[Tripod]

If he shows well at RW it bodes well for Frost in the future too. Hell they could even end up on the same line together.

You mean re-signing Laughton.

 

[flyersnorth]

We’re not playing a winning brand of hockey. I certainly agree with that. I’m still not sure how to analytically understand our current record.

Team corsi has a weak statistical correlation with points in the standings.

I would suspect that special teams performance has a stronger correlation, as would xGF, but I haven't seen studies on that.

 

[CapnZin]

I saw the excuse on here numerous times for him and other new parents that "He's not playing well because he has a newborn at home.". I don't want to take any chances.

Family > Hockey. Girouxs legacy and career won’t be usurped by having a kid if he does slow down. If so, oh well. Not gonna complain about G and his wife starting a family.

 

[Rebels57]

You mean re-signing Laughton.

Laughton is not getting re-signed lol

They'd have to wait until after Expansion and at that point he will be getting stupid UFA offers that Fletcher isn't going to touch with Couturier's extension looming.

 

[Rebels57]

We’re not playing a winning brand of hockey. I certainly agree with that. I’m still not sure how to analytically understand our current record.

They've been very efficient once they are in the offensive zone with possesion. They just aren't in there enough hence the terrible analytics.

 

[Striiker]

We’re not playing a winning brand of hockey. I certainly agree with that. I’m still not sure how to analytically understand our current record.

Some very skilled players and lots of luck

At all strengths...

Scoring Chance shooting %: 25.41% (highest in the league)
Average over the previous three years: 15.35%

High Danger Scoring Chance shooting %: 34.62% (highest in the league)
Average over the previous three years: 18.99%

Team shooting %: 14.61% (highest in the league)
Average over the previous three years: 9.71%

PDO: 104.8 (highest in the league)
Average over the previous three years: 99.7%

Expected goals: 35
Actual goals: 51

In short, we're getting out-chanced, out-possessed, and generally dominated... but we're converting on the few chances we do get with unsustainably high frequency.

 

[Striiker]

I saw the excuse on here numerous times for him and other new parents that "He's not playing well because he has a newborn at home.". I don't want to take any chances.

Yeah, I know. It was especially funny because even suggesting that he wasn't playing well was false.

He was playing well but just not getting rewarded for it due to things outside of his control. It sucks, but that's just how it works sometimes.

 

[marcsson68]

At this point, is winning even a good thing?

All that'll do is convince these egotistical idiots that what they're doing is acceptable and prevent change. If we keep playing the way we are and we squeak into the playoffs, we have no chance at actually accomplishing anything once there. And that should be our goal, not getting unsustainable regular season wins where we deserve to lose.

Basically you have been saying this for years: Hope for losses just to prove management and / or coaches are idiots.
While I do agree that a couple of things need to be fixed and criticism is justified I will always hope for the Flyers to be successful.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

Team corsi has a weak statistical correlation with points in the standings.

I would suspect that special teams performance has a stronger correlation, as would xGF, but I haven't seen studies on that.

Yeah, it’s that they’ve been bad by both the eye test and analytical tests, other than luck and shooting percentage. They’ve also been horrific on the PK. It’s confusing, but I’ll take the good win-loss record.

 

[Striiker]

Basically you have been saying this for years: Hope for losses just to prove management and / or coaches are idiots.
While I do agree that a couple of things need to be fixed and criticism is justified I will always hope for the Flyers to be successful.

I didn't say I was hoping for losses and I don't need to prove that management and the coaches are idiots.