Prospect Info: 149th - Jarret Tyszka

[Tyson]

I guess we will sign him soon. We signed Pezzetta on March 7, 2018.

He and Walford I believe will be signed

 

[Agalloch]

Looks like Canadiens aren't sure if they sign him or not.

 

[Whitesnake]

We've signed worst. I don't understand if we don't unless he has some serious health issues.

 

[Agalloch]

We've signed worst. I don't understand if we don't unless he has some serious health issues.

Well he missed 3 months for a concussion.

My guess is we want to sign him to a AHL deal only for 1 year and not ready to commit for 3 years.

We weren't sure about Thrower in 2014 because of injury and he signed on May 31... He ended up playing 9 games in the AHL.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We've signed worst. I don't understand if we don't unless he has some serious health issues.

Some serious thought needs to be made towards our 50 contracts moving forward. We have a clutter of prospects so we need to be careful.

- Currently 32 contracts.
- Add contracts to Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, and maybe a back-up.
- Then who do we try to bring back? Weal, Benn, Folin, Hudon, Thompson, Reilly
- AHL players. Are McCarron, Audette, Shinkaruk, Olofsson, Quellet, Lernout back?

Usually you want to stay at 45, 46, or 47 contracts. After Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, that's 10 or 12 more contracts. Before you consider who we sign, who are we not re-signing? That's what we need to figure out first.

 

[Agalloch]

Some serious though needs to be made towards our 50 contracts moving forward. We have a clutter of prospects so we need to be careful.

- Currently 32 contracts.
- Add contracts to Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, and maybe a back-up.
- Then who do we try to bring back? Weal, Benn, Folin, Hudon, thompson, Reilly
- AHL players. Are McCarron, Audette, Shinkaruk, Olofsson, Quellet, Lernout back

Usually you want to stay at 45, 46, or 47 contracts. After Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, that's 10 or 12 more contracts.

Before you consider who we sign, who are we not signing? That's what we need to figure out first.

Agree. Then let's wait for Tyszka to return to the draft and not be picked. Offer him AHL deal.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Agree. Then let's wait for Tyszka to return to the draft and no be picked. Offer him AHL deal.

There is still hope we can sign him. We just need to figure out who we want to let go first. The other factor in all of this is we have 4 prospects turning pro. Poehling, Brook, Suzuki, Primeau. That's a lot of rookies. Then add 2nd years for Evans and Vejdemo. Not sure what is the smart number in terms of adding rookies to the Laval roster. But yes, Poehling might start with the Habs.

 

[Mandala]

Some serious thought needs to be made towards our 50 contracts moving forward. We have a clutter of prospects so we need to be careful.

- Currently 32 contracts.
- Add contracts to Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, and maybe a back-up.
- Then who do we try to bring back? Weal, Benn, Folin, Hudon, Thompson, Reilly
- AHL players. Are McCarron, Audette, Shinkaruk, Olofsson, Quellet, Lernout back?

Usually you want to stay at 45, 46, or 47 contracts. After Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, that's 10 or 12 more contracts. Before you consider who we sign, who are we not re-signing? That's what we need to figure out first.

If he signs a two-way deal, does that count on the 50 contracts limit if he plays only in the AHL?

 

[Agalloch]

If he signs a two-way deal, does that count on the 50 contracts limit if he plays only in the AHL?

He can sign AHL only deal and he would not count against the 50 roster limit but he could be signed by another team anytime.

But it needs to be done after this year's draft.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If he signs a two-way deal, does that count on the 50 contracts limit if he plays only in the AHL?

I believe it does count. Only AHL contracts don't count. Belzile for example. He lead our Laval team in points and I don't see his contract listed on cap friendly

 

[Whitesnake]

Some serious thought needs to be made towards our 50 contracts moving forward. We have a clutter of prospects so we need to be careful.

- Currently 32 contracts.
- Add contracts to Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, and maybe a back-up.
- Then who do we try to bring back? Weal, Benn, Folin, Hudon, Thompson, Reilly
- AHL players. Are McCarron, Audette, Shinkaruk, Olofsson, Quellet, Lernout back?

Usually you want to stay at 45, 46, or 47 contracts. After Kulak, Armia, Lehkonen, that's 10 or 12 more contracts. Before you consider who we sign, who are we not re-signing? That's what we need to figure out first.

I'd offer a contract to Weal, Folin and Thompson if we can't do better. Hudon, you have to let him go. Same for Reilly.
AHL: McCarron, I have him back. Same with Olofsson. Audette, Shinkaruk and Lernout are out for me. Ouellet you offer him something....but chances are he'll go elsewhere.

 

[John B]

The Habs already have Alzner and Sklenicka signed and bound for the AHL next season, unless Alzner is dealt or bought out. If I'm not mistaken Sklenicka also has a Euro out clause, or was that Moravcik that had that? Anyway, assuming neither of those guys move in the offseason, Laval will have two LDs already under contract. Not sure if Olofsson or Ouellet will be brought back, but they are both RFAs and I could see it happening. Victor Mete is the only signed LD in Montreal. Reilly and Kulak are RFAs and Benn is a UFA. Also have to consider the possibility of the Habs adding a LD in free agency or through trade. Scott Walford has looked better than Tyszka this year and needs a contract or he re-enters the draft. I think Bergevin is weighing his options. I think he'd like to have Ouellet back as depth and for Laval, and would like another look at Olofsson since he only played a couple games this season. It doesn't leave much room for both Tyszka and Walford.

 

[malton]

I'd offer a contract to Weal, Folin and Thompson if we can't do better. Hudon, you have to let him go. Same for Reilly.
AHL: McCarron, I have him back. Same with Olofsson. Audette, Shinkaruk and Lernout are out for me. Ouellet you offer him something....but chances are he'll go elsewhere.

If you're willing to let Hudon go, why not sign him and expose him to waivers? Seems like Laval could use some scoring.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'd offer a contract to Weal, Folin and Thompson if we can't do better. Hudon, you have to let him go. Same for Reilly.
AHL: McCarron, I have him back. Same with Olofsson. Audette, Shinkaruk and Lernout are out for me. Ouellet you offer him something....but chances are he'll go elsewhere.

I think there is room if we let a few guys go. Then what happens when Romanov, Ylonen, Ikonen, Olofsson want to make the trip overseas. It's interesting to try to play armchair GM and evaluate how we manage our contract limit. It's been long time since we had prospects like this and usually the past, we never had enough good prospects so the minute we have a guy like Tyska, we signed him. Not so sure it's that easy today.

 

[ahmedou]

Check in his actual physical tests (updated) and let the medical team say the last word.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The Habs already have Alzner and Sklenicka signed and bound for the AHL next season, unless Alzner is dealt or bought out. If I'm not mistaken Sklenicka also has a Euro out clause, or was that Moravcik that had that? Anyway, assuming neither of those guys move in the offseason, Laval will have two LDs already under contract. Not sure if Olofsson or Ouellet will be brought back, but they are both RFAs and I could see it happening. Victor Mete is the only signed LD in Montreal. Reilly and Kulak are RFAs and Benn is a UFA. Also have to consider the possibility of the Habs adding a LD in free agency or through trade. Scott Walford has looked better than Tyszka this year and needs a contract or he re-enters the draft. I think Bergevin is weighing his options. I think he'd like to have Ouellet back as depth and for Laval, and would like another look at Olofsson since he only played a couple games this season. It doesn't leave much room for both Tyszka and Walford.

Well said! It's not as easy as it seems. The entire roster (Habs and Rockets) needs to be evaluated before we make a move and offer contracts to grade C assets in Tyszka and Walford (fringe grade B to some).

The other factor is how many rookies do we insert in Laval at once. We already know we have 4. Is adding 6 rookies a good situation?

 

[Agalloch]

Well said! It's not as easy as it seems. The entire roster (Habs and Rockets) needs to be evaluated before we make a move and offer contracts to grade C assets in Tyszka and Walford (fringe grade B to some).

The other factor is how many rookies do we insert in Laval at once. We already know we have 4. Is adding 6 rookies a good situation?

At the same time, Walford and Tyszka could begin the season in the ECHL.

 

[Habs Halifax]

At the same time, Walford and Tyszka could begin the season in the ECHL.

True dat! But then we still need to evaluate the overall 50 contracts. I think there is room but I'm no expert at this. It's not easy to manage. Once you sign the contract, you are stuck with it

 

[Adam Michaels]

If he signs a two-way deal, does that count on the 50 contracts limit if he plays only in the AHL?

It depends if it's a Two-Way NHL deal or Two-Way AHL deal.

Two-Way NHL deal counts against the 50, because it's an NHL contract. The two-way only affects his pay. He's paid one salary in the NHL and another in the AHL.

Two-Way AHL deal does not count on the 50 because it's not an NHL contract. And the two-way AHL deal means the player is paid one salary in the AHL and another in the ECHL.

 

[Whitesnake]

It depends if it's a Two-Way NHL deal or Two-Way AHL deal.

Two-Way NHL deal counts against the 50, because it's an NHL contract. The two-way only affects his pay. He's paid one salary in the NHL and another in the AHL.

Two-Way AHL deal does not count on the 50 because it's not an NHL contract. And the two-way AHL deal means the player is paid one salary in the AHL and another in the ECHL.

True. So the only thing left to know is what Tyszka is willing to accept. Does he has a NHL contract in hand or not.

One thing is sure, I prefer Tyszka potential over Walford's.

 

[Whitesnake]

If you're willing to let Hudon go, why not sign him and expose him to waivers? Seems like Laval could use some scoring.

We were talking about the 50-contract limit. If I have better players in mind, I won't spend it on Hudon. But my main point is that I think the kid deserves to look elsewhere. Elsewhere meaning....Tampa Bay...lol

 

[ahmedou]

We were talking about the 50-contract limit. But my main point is that I think the kid deserves to look elsewhere. Elsewhere meaning....Tampa Bay...lol

That's the development high-school that's everyone is dreaming about when they're drafted by the Montreal Canadiens.

 

[Adam Michaels]

True. So the only thing left to know is what Tyszka is willing to accept. Does he has a NHL contract in hand or not.

One thing is sure, I prefer Tyszka potential over Walford's.

Same here. Just his mobility sells me on him more. I know he has other qualities, but he's the type of defenseman made for today's NHL.

I do recall that in his draft year, he missed a significant amount of time due to a shoulder injury. So even when they selected him, they knew he had a big injury. Which may explain why he went in the 5th Round and not sooner.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I've always liked Tyska's tool box better than Walford's as well, but his development has been stunted by injuries to say the least, can't blame 'em for hesitating.

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

The thing with Tzyka is that spent a couple of months with the big team for his rehab this season, so maybe they saw something they didn't like.