13-14 HFBoards Yahoo Fantasy Premier Keeper League Part 6

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BrockH

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Bit of a breakdown for those interested:
Team Name Skaters' Roto Points
CCF23 55
Tiranis 54
BrockH 48
parabola 46
Rattleshirt 46
Balls To The Wall 40
Canucksrock 40
JannikAtTheDisco 31
EV's Allstars 30
ubiquitous 28
CRDragon 27
Liquid Snake 23

Team Name Goalies' Roto Points
Balls To The Wall 43
JannikAtTheDisco 41
Canucksrock 35
parabola 33
Liquid Snake 30
Tiranis 26
BrockH 25
Rattleshirt 25
ubiquitous 24
EV's Allstars 11
CCF23 10
CRDragon 9
 

BrockH

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I'm not talking to you about luck though. I'm fully aware I got lucky against you.

I'm confused then. What differentiates randomness from luck in an H2H league?

Edit: I'm going to bed, sorry if I overreacted, but I've had my share of bad beats in this league over the years. They happen, that's how H2H works (introduce more randomness/luck in exchange for a more exciting season through to the finish). Seeing someone else complain they should have won and straight up saying they are better just doesn't sit well with me.
 
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ArtursSilovsShirt

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i raaappppeeeeddddd in the consolation playoffs, where's my trophy ;)

another huge goaltending performance from my guys in the consolation finals too, 7 wins in 7 starts im pretty sure, maybe it was 8. had to bench holtby and lehtonen most of the week cause all 4 of my goalies were playing on the same days.

having said that, will be looking to deal one of these goalie keepers to try and get picks or a better skater for a keeper, so PM me if you have early interest.
 

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I guess on the bright side this may be Couture's coming out party, what a free agent pick up that turned out to be! Also Pavelski is giving me reason to keep him, same with Elliott, throw Holtby's play in there as a rookie goalie and I'm very excited about my team going forward!
 

Balls Mahoney

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Holy poop, I've been on the road the last week and just checked the hockey scores for the first time. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? We're down 3-0 to the Sharks? :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 

CRDragon

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End of Season League Discussion:

Rule additions/subtractions and amendments:
1. 2 weeks finals
2. Stashing rookie players...(Ex: 1 stash maximum, drafted in the first 3 rounds of the draft)
3. Disallowing pickups of NA players.
4. Possible change of waiver rules? Further discussions if anyone wishes to continue to pursue this change.
5. Expansion discussion

Reminders for next season:
1. Addition of Util spot
2. Limit of 3 add/drops per week set by Yahoo! Spot starts, injury adds rules eliminated.
3. Draft picks will be used in the Yahoo! system

I'd like as much input as possible, and we will have a vote asap on the rule changes so we can have a relaxing offseason.

Refer to the last thread and this thread for previous comments about the changes above:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1267853&page=38
 

Eddie Vedder

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End of Season League Discussion:

Rule additions/subtractions and amendments:
1. 2 weeks finals
2. Stashing rookie players...(Ex: 1 stash maximum, drafted in the first 3 rounds of the draft)
3. Disallowing pickups of NA players.
4. Possible change of waiver rules? Further discussions if anyone wishes to continue to pursue this change.
5. Expansion discussion

Reminders for next season:
1. Addition of Util spot
2. Limit of 3 add/drops per week set by Yahoo! Spot starts, injury adds rules eliminated.
3. Draft picks will be used in the Yahoo! system

I'd like as much input as possible, and we will have a vote asap on the rule changes so we can have a relaxing offseason.

Refer to the last thread and this thread for previous comments about the changes above:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1267853&page=38

I still want more stat categories


Also if you go to 2 week playoff, make sure to not include the final week of the real nhl season when there is mass healthy scratching
 

CRDragon

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I still want more stat categories


Also if you go to 2 week playoff, make sure to not include the final week of the real nhl season when there is mass healthy scratching

Which stat categories? SHP? Blk? Goalie Losses?

If we exclude the very last week of the NHL season....plus 2 week final...it'll eliminate at least 2 weeks of regular season play. Will that be a significant removal? The trade deadline would then be a lot closer to the our fantasy league playoffs, which may help the market...hard to tell.
 

Eddie Vedder

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Which stat categories? SHP? Blk? Goalie Losses?

If we exclude the very last week of the NHL season....plus 2 week final...it'll eliminate at least 2 weeks of regular season play. Will that be a significant removal? The trade deadline would then be a lot closer to the our fantasy league playoffs, which may help the market...hard to tell.

other league is a money league so we've axed the last week of the regular season because nobody wants to lose $$ on a coaches decision to sit... crosby or lundqvist or whoever.

Our playoffs are 3 weeks. works fine.


Face offs won, blocks, removal of shutouts. Or face off % though FOW seems like a better stat.
 

BrockH

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other league is a money league so we've axed the last week of the regular season because nobody wants to lose $$ on a coaches decision to sit... crosby or lundqvist or whoever.

Our playoffs are 3 weeks. works fine.


Face offs won, blocks, removal of shutouts. Or face off % though FOW seems like a better stat.

I'm all for those stat category changes, but they're definitely strategic impact changes (wait a year). I also like takeaways as a possibility. Also, I think I'd prefer face off percentage because we added the stupid utility slot, lol. I don't like the idea of feeling obligated to use centers in my utility spot in order to max out face off opportunities.
 

Eddie Vedder

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I'm all for those stat category changes, but they're definitely strategic impact changes (wait a year). I also like takeaways as a possibility. Also, I think I'd prefer face off percentage because we added the stupid utility slot, lol. I don't like the idea of feeling obligated to use centers in my utility spot in order to max out face off opportunities.

fow spreads the stat out to more players. The better % players are still the best ones to have (bergeron, crosby, spezza, et al) but you can compensate not having one of half a dozen aces by choosing to play more centers overall

E.G. team A has crosby, bergeron, spezza as well as matt duchene. They annihilate their matchup in FOW every week

team b knows they wont out score team A but has a good shot at goalie stats and blocks, they use their utility spot and center/wingers to take a run at FOW by committee instead of playing pure wingers to take a stab at G.

The following week, team b plays his wingers over his centers because the new team A isnt a good offensively.

TL;DR: the teams with good centers/high % wont need to play as many centers are possible cause they already win way more draws than other players, but keeping it as FOW makes it a realistic option that someone could beat you in it.

I feel like so many players in our pool are just so useless right now. Adding a couple "defensive" stats adds a lot more strategy and makes the waiver wire deeper for everyone.
 

BrockH

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team b knows they wont out score team A but has a good shot at goalie stats and blocks, they use their utility spot and center/wingers to take a run at FOW by committee instead of playing pure wingers to take a stab at G.

This is exactly why I prefer face-off win % though. I feel like if someone has all those top face-off guys, they deserve to win. Centers are just as capable by scoring as wingers, so it makes playing a center at utility an inherent advantage. Beating another team by playing more centers is just like beating another team by having more GP to me, I don't like it.
 

Tiranis

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Hits, as badly as they're tracked in real life, IMO have less implications than FO% or FOW given the lack of positional bias (all skaters get hits, including defensemen). There's also more of them tracker per week (by a significant margin) than takeaways which decreases the luck factor somewhat.
 

CRDragon

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End of Season Rosters....please let me know if there is a mistake. Thanks.

BrockH
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CRDragon
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CCF23
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Ubiquitous

Sidney Crosby | Eric Staal | Ryan Getzlaf | Steven Stamkos
Derek Roy | David Backes | Pavel Datsyuk | Anze Kopitar
Jiri Tlusty | Gabriel Landeskog | Jonathan Huberdeau | Alexander Steen
Alex Ovechkin | Brandon Dubinsky | Alex Tanguay | David Clarkson
Corey Perry | Ryane Clowe | Martin St Louis | Tomas Kopecky
Vladmir Tarasenko | Brent Burns | Devin Setoguchi | Francois Beauchemin
Erik Karlsson | Claude Giroux | Brenden Dillon | Ryan McDonagh
Andrei Markov | Shea Weber | Niklas Kronwall | Alex Goligoski
John Carlson | Jake Gardiner | Dennis Wideman | Tyler Myers
Paul Martin | Jake Muzzin | Justin Schultz | Tyler Seguin
Dougie Hamilton | Patrik Berglund | Chris Kunitz | Brad Marchand
Marcus Johansson | Patrick Wiercioch | Wayne Simmonds | Alexander Burrows
Steve Ott | Ryan Callahan | Tyler Kennedy | Keith Yandle
Troy Brouwer | Brandon Saad | Jonathan Toews | Cody Franson
Nick Leddy | Cory Conacher | Roman Josi | Jeff Skinner
Vinny Prospal | TJ Oshie | Mike Green | James van Riemsdyk
James Neal | | Tyler Ennis | Ryan Johansen
| Jonathan Quick | | Milan Michalek
Niklas Backstrom | Ben Scrivens | Ryan Miller |
Jonas Hiller | Cam Ward | Miikka Kiprusoff | Michal Neuvirth
Devan Dubnyk | Jake Allen | Ben Bishop | Tuukka Rask
| | | Pekka Rinne

Parabola
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Balls Mahoney
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Canucksrock
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Eddie Vedder

Patrice Bergeron | Joe Thornton | Nazem Kadri | Mikael Granlund
Mike Ribero | John Tavares | Mikko Koivu | Vincent Lecavalier
Zach Parise | Milan Lucic | Scott Hartnell | Michael Cammalleri
Pascal Dupuis | Taylor Hall | Mike Richards | Jamie Benn
Jakub Voracek | Sam Gagner | Ilya Kovalchuk | Nail Yakupov
Jordan Eberle | Jaromir Jagr | Marian Gaborik | Jeff Carter
Matt Carle | Jakob Silfverberg | Jack Johnson | Dion Phaneuf
Michael Del Zotto | Lubomir Visnovsky | Ryan Suter | Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Seabrook | Zdeno Chara | Jay Bouwmeester | Simon Depres
Jared Cowen | Mark Streit | Victor Hedman | Ryan Murray
Brian Campbell | Sergei Gonchar | Brad Richards | Mika Zibanejad
Matt Moulson | Chris Stewart | Cody Hodgson | Sean Couturier
Bryan Little | Matt Duchene | Alexander Semin | Thomas Vanek
Joni Pitkanen | Evander Kane | Andy Greene | Max Pacioretty
Patrik Elias | Teemu Selanne | Christian Ehrhoff | Blake Wheeler
Carl Hagelin | Kevin Bieksa | David Perron | Mikhail Grigorenko
Jarome Iginla | Ryan Kesler | Colin Wilson | Brayden Schenn
Jason Spezza | Raphael Diaz | | Ryan Strome
| | Corey Crawford |
Henrik Lundqvist | Antti Niemi | James Reimer | Dan Ellis
Roberto Luongo | Sergei Bobrovsky | Ray Emery | Carey Price
Evgeni Nabokov | Semyon Varlamov | Ondrej Pavalec |
| Robin Lehner | |

Red Light Mosquito
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Tiranis
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SelKesler
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LiquidSnake

David Krejci | Evgeni Malkin | Henrik Zetterberg | Henrik Sedin
Patrick Marleau | Ryan O'Reilly | Adam Henrique | Nicklas Backstrom
Andy McDonald | Patrick Sharp | Jordan Staal | Mason Raymond
Bobby Ryan | Rick Nash | Sven Baertschi | Daniel Sedin
Loui Eriksson | Joffrey Lupul | Alex Chiasson | Phil Kessel
PA Parenteau | Justin Williams | Marian Hossa | Dany Heatley
PK Subban | Kris Letang | Jason Garrison | Drew Doughty
Alexander Edler | Sheldon Souray | Duncan Keith | Kevin Shattenkirk
Slava Voynov | Oilver Ekman-Larsson | Cam Fowler | Zach Bogosian
James Wisniewski | Dan Boyle | Mark Cundari | Sami Salo
Brandon Prust | Lee Stempniak | Teddy Purcell | Daniel Alfredsson
Andrew Ladd | Marek Zidlicky | Logan Couture | Dan Hamhuis
Patrick Kane | Derick Brassard | Joe Pavelski | Alex Galchenyuk
Brendan Gallagher | Dustin Byfuglien | Ryan Nugent-Hopkins | Michael Ryder
Tobias Enstrom | Dustin Brown | Filip Forsberg | Zack Kassian
Paul Stastny | | Nicklas Jensen | Chris Neil
| Mike Smith | | Jannik Hansen
Marc-Andre Fleury | Jacob Markstrom | Jimmy Howard |
Ilya Bryzgalov | Jaroslav Halak | Kari Lehtonen | Cory Schneider
Craig Anderson | Viktor Fasth | Braden Holtby | Jonathan Bernier
Tomas Vokoun | | Brian Elliott | Martin Brodeur
 
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