GDT: 12/19/17 - Florida Panthers at Arizona Coyotes

[rt]

When he said "I can name 15 games where we had the game in hand and somehow the other team found a way to win it because we found a way to lose it" he was right on the money. As far as "weeding some people out", I mean, who? Which player isn't part of the problem? Which coach? Which manager? Is Tucson still good? Do we fire Chayka and Tocchet and promote Sullivan and Van Ryn? What can possibly be done? This is the most hopeless the team has ever been. There is just no hope at all.

 

[BigMac1212]

Execute order 66!!

Activate Auto-Destruct sequence.

 

[ParisSaintGermain]

Last two missing items before having lived through the whole FAN LOSER EXPERIENCE package:

- uncontainable plague spreading within the roster
- relocation

Nearly there ladies & gents

 

[Summer Rose]

Last two missing items before having lived through the whole FAN LOSER EXPERIENCE package:

- uncontainable plague spreading within the roster
- relocation

Nearly there ladies & gents

I consider our ineptitude on the ice to be a pretty minor factor of potential relocation. Teams can be nominally "good" but relocate anyway. Off-ice financials are sometimes not related to the team's on-ice success, as much as we like to think that winning games puts butts in seats. It's a factor, but just one of many. Our most successful season as an NHL franchise ever, the finances were pretty bad because we had been bankrupt and at the time were owned by the league. On the opposite side of the coin, when this franchise was the Winnipeg Jets, there was at least moderate success (albeit largely as a WHA team). The final 1995-96 season in Winnipeg wasn't exactly poorly attended by fans.

I was going to try to make a bigger point than this, but I forgot in the middle of typing that, so I'll give up now.

 

[Matias Maccete]

He's been embarrassed for the fans damn near every game. Stop being embarrassed for us win a damn game damn it. Yeah the weed some people out screams panic trade. Hopefully we don't get screwed.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I think the team misses Doan's leadership.

 

[Jakey53]

Absolutely ****ing disgraceful result given the first 39 minutes. Clearly we weren't STICKY enough, eh Rick?

All RT talks about is sticky, sticky and more sticky. How about score, score and more score. Chayka makes a deal for a player because he is a fast skater. Well, I'm tired of watching the Korpikoski's, Rieder's, Rinaldo's and Kempe's of the world. I want someone who has hockey IQ that can think quick and actually score.

 

[Jakey53]

Remember that one time we were up 4-0 in Anaheim?

Yeah, when we all had hope.

 

[Jakey53]

Poor coaching.

I still say it's the players more than coaching, but RT doesn't get off scott free either. Look at the goals against last night. Poor decisions by vets. Every goal against was the direct result of a seasoned vet screwing up, the last goal three vets. RT has not held the vets accountable for their play all season long. Maybe try sitting a couple of high profile vet Dmen and give some kids a shot by playing them 20 min. a night. This season is shot, so lets evaluate the kids. I just hope they don't trade a kid for some over the hill vet.

 

[Jakey53]

When he said "I can name 15 games where we had the game in hand and somehow the other team found a way to win it because we found a way to lose it" he was right on the money. As far as "weeding some people out", I mean, who? Which player isn't part of the problem? Which coach? Which manager? Is Tucson still good? Do we fire Chayka and Tocchet and promote Sullivan and Van Ryn? What can possibly be done? This is the most hopeless the team has ever been. There is just no hope at all.

It's what you and others wanted. Like Cobra said, "be careful for what you wish for". This has been the worst case scenario, and it all started with AB in the off season with his decisions and the way he handled everything. I'am at a loss for words. This year was year three of our rebuild and we found a way to f--- it up big time. This should have been the turning point of the rebuild, but no, ownership and management had to find a way to screw it up.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I still say it's the players more than coaching, but RT doesn't get off scott free either.

Many variables of course, but when the bulk of your team is massively under-performing the coach needs to take some blame. Now I see why the Duke is benched.

 

[RemoAZ]

After I saw Stome got sent down, Duclair scrated and the epic trade for another 4th liner, I couldn't get motivated to watch this one. The only thing this organization is consistently good at is crushing our hopes.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Activate Auto-Destruct sequence.

Code 1, 1A, 2B. Commence countdown.

 

[AZviaNJ]

When he said "I can name 15 games where we had the game in hand and somehow the other team found a way to win it because we found a way to lose it" he was right on the money. As far as "weeding some people out", I mean, who? Which player isn't part of the problem? Which coach? Which manager? Is Tucson still good? Do we fire Chayka and Tocchet and promote Sullivan and Van Ryn? What can possibly be done? This is the most hopeless the team has ever been. There is just no hope at all.

There was probably 15 defensive breakdowns in the 3rd period alone, last night. But Demers' complete cluster on the 3rd Florida goal was easily the worst.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Lol at Tocchet saying he's embarrassed. Oh yea? What are you going to do about it? Nothing.

Scratch Duclair again and make stupid roster decisions... good job. You wanna weed people out that are costing us games? I'll give you a start of a list, Tocchet, his staff, 5.5 mil man Goligoski, Connauton, Schenn (even though I don't have a huge problem with him), Stepan, Cousins, Richardson, pretty much anyone on that line could go.

Oh wait, instead, Tocchet gives a couple of those guys an "A" on their sweater and plenty of unearned ice time to the rest. Then we lose and he scratches one of the team's leading scorers instead for who knows what reason.

Oh yes... sticky. Cause goals don't win games, sticky does. Ps... not so sticky that they would throw a bunch of hits and fight for SOME entertainment value at least. But sticky enough to look like they skate hard but not actually do anything on the ice.


Sorry... rant over. Just incredibly frustrated by the way this season is going and the continual stupid decisions that are being made. Lots of "talk" but not a lot of action.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

I wouldn't be surprised if this team plays better after getting rid of the vets at the trade deadline.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I wouldn't be surprised if this team plays better after getting rid of the vets at the trade deadline.

They can't get rid of the vets because their salaries are the only things keeping us above the cap floor.

 

[zz]

They can't get rid of the vets because their salaries are the only things keeping us above the cap floor.

Just put the owner on the roster for $ 10M / yr or whatever the league maximum is these days. Sounds like he could use the cash.

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

He's been embarrassed for the fans damn near every game. Stop being embarrassed for us win a damn game damn it. Yeah the weed some people out screams panic trade. Hopefully we don't get screwed.

Maybe he'll play the guys in the weed whacker commercial.

 

[Grimes]

Maybe he'll play the guys in the weed whacker commercial.

You said they would play those guys tomorrow.

 

[moosemeister]

Tomorrow was yesterday

 

[Tom Polakis]

All RT talks about is sticky, sticky and more sticky. How about score, score and more score. Chayka makes a deal for a player because he is a fast skater. Well, I'm tired of watching the Korpikoski's, Rieder's, Rinaldo's and Kempe's of the world. I want someone who has hockey IQ that can think quick and actually score.

Hey, let's not forget Enver Lisin. That guy had some wheels! Currently a good KHL player, which tells you what you need to know about the KHL.

 

[Tom Polakis]

I still say it's the players more than coaching, but RT doesn't get off scott free either. Look at the goals against last night. Poor decisions by vets. Every goal against was the direct result of a seasoned vet screwing up, the last goal three vets. RT has not held the vets accountable for their play all season long. Maybe try sitting a couple of high profile vet Dmen and give some kids a shot by playing them 20 min. a night. This season is shot, so lets evaluate the kids. I just hope they don't trade a kid for some over the hill vet.

Goals #1 and #3, but not #2.

Goal #1 was a lost faceoff by Stepan, and Raanta snoozing at the end of the period.
Goal #2 started with the Schenn/Connauton pairing's ineptness, but it was primarily a result of rookie Keller not bothering to follow the trailer into his zone. No effort at all from him.
Goal #3 was on Demers.

Don't kid yourself; rookies are playing like a$$ as well.

 

[finkelsteinberg]

Why doesn't RT call a timeout after that 3rd goal and settle down the team, give em a breather, etc.? Hell, call a time out after the 2nd before you blow the lead.

 

[KG]

Many variables of course, but when the bulk of your team is massively under-performing the coach needs to take some blame. Now I see why the Duke is benched.

This is the problem. Almost every vet playing below even an average year. None having career years. Recipe for disaster with a bunch of new players.