Proposal: 11th OA pick to MTL

[Superlative Soup]

Canucks have plenty of decent prospects already - what they need is high end ones. The 11thov represents that, and is easily the best piece in the OP. Not trading 11 for cap relief.

They do?

 

[Canucks LB]

They do?

Silovs lekkerimaki hoglander are all decent

 

[Hoglander]

They do?

I would say so. There's a solid number of middle of the lineup or complimentary-type potentials, but they are missing the 1/2 elite-level prospects that you'd like to see at the top of the list, and so everyone always says "they have no prospects".

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

In order to take barron off our hands and a b+ prospect plus a 2nd round and we take meyers, we need more then the 11th IMO

Lmao...


This is absolutely dreadful for Vancouver.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

After Tyler Myers $5 million bonus is paid he will only be owed $1 million this year, the last year of his contract. He can get an asset at that point from a team looking for a short term stop gap by and reach the salary floor.

If Vancouver retains 50% at the trade deadline he could probably get a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

After Tyler Myers $5 million bonus is paid he will only be owed $1 million this year, the last year of his contract. He can get an asset at that point from a team looking for a short term stop gap by and reach the salary floor.

If Vancouver retains 50% at the trade deadline he could probably get a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

There are no teams that are struggling to reach the cap floor. None.

Any team willing to take on Myers will do so to get a sweetener in the deal. Plus Myers NTC will limit the teams that can accommodate his caphit.

 

[Qwijibo]

Silovs lekkerimaki hoglander are all decent

Canucks have one of the worst prospect pools in the league. But they have two young superstar level players in Hughes and Pettersson

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

There are no teams that are struggling to reach the cap floor. None.

Any team willing to take on Myers will do so to get a sweetener in the deal. Plus Myers NTC will limit the teams that can accommodate his caphit.

At a 1 million dollar salery zero teams will need a sweetener. Arizona, Chicago and teams with Cap space will no doubt add him for 1 year, especially if put on waivers.

 

[Canucks LB]

Canucks have one of the worst prospect pools in the league. But they have two young superstar level players in Hughes and Pettersson

Yup

But he was asking about decent prospects, and it’s exactly what we have.

No stars, just decent prospects

 

[ole ole]

Flyers offer:

Flyers - Jake Allen, 31st pick

Habs - B level prospect 1, B level prospect 2, 2024 3rd round pick

Counter
Jake Allen, 31st pick for Hart.

Flyers offer:

Flyers - Jake Allen, 31st pick

Habs - B level prospect 1, B level prospect 2, 2024 3rd round pick

You forgot the

 

[Ace]

How is it a hard no from VAN? Getting rid of Myers will probably cost a first or at least a second alone.

Dude has one year left and Vancouver isn’t contending for shit. 11th overall so they can miss the playoffs with or without him? That’s ridiculous. They will have his contract off the books in one season. And a good prospect they drafted at 11.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Ugh, yuck. God no.

Canucks aren't dealing 11th in a great draft just because they 'aren't rebuilding'.

If the Kings (for example) wanted the 11th it would cost Brandt Clarke. Kings would never, so it's moot.

We're not dealing the pick to get out of a one year contract and get pennies on the dollar otherwise.

This proposal, like many on here, doesn't really consider the needs of the other team.

We absolutely need the potentially elite talent on ELC that we're going to get.

11th overall this year is like 5th-7th most years.

 

[Petes2424]

The Canucks need quality prospects, but they aren’t dropping that far to just get a couple.

Much prefer the Detroit one to get rid of Myers.

Myers and 11th
17th and Jared McIssac.

Opens up some cash, still get a top prospect at 17, and get a 22 year old D prospect who is a 200+ Game NHL prospect. The quality between 11 and 17 really is personal preference. Good chance you may still get the player you wanted at 11… at least in this draft.

 

[Bond]

After Tyler Myers $5 million bonus is paid he will only be owed $1 million this year, the last year of his contract. He can get an asset at that point from a team looking for a short term stop gap by and reach the salary floor.

If Vancouver retains 50% at the trade deadline he could probably get a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Arizona special if not

 

[Double Dion]

2 very reasonable fanbases. This should be entertaining. Is there a way to make it a 3 way trade and add in the Rags? Get all the lunatics in one thread.

 

[StewieP19]

I feel like VAN might be a prime trade partner for MTL as they need to shed cap (MTL has plenty of space), don't have a deep prospect pool (MTL has plenty of solid prospects) and could really use a young D with potential (with MTL more likely than not to draft Reinbacher at 5th, one of our young D could become expendable). So how about this :

MTL : Tyler Myers + 11th OA pick
VAN : Justin Barron + Riley Kidney + 2nd RD pick 2024

That way VAN accomplish many things:

They get plenty of cap space to maybe sign a guy like Severson
They get more quantity in terms of prospects (2nd + Kidney is highly skilled but also redundant in MTL's prospect pool with the likes of Roy, Farrell, Beck, Mesar, etc.).

MTL gets to draft Reinbacher and one of Benson, Leonard or Dvorsky at 11th (I would even try to move up again in the top 10 (a team like WAS could be a good fit at 8th) to secure Leonard or Benson).

Not enough
Just last year The 13th overall got traded for Romanov and this year the draft are better.
Barron Kidney and a second never return a top 15 draft pick this year

 

[Stewie Griffin]

11th overall this year is like 5th-7th most years.

No that's a bit much. It's a strong draft at the very top, but after that it's the same as most.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Myers to Montreal as a cap dump could make some sense. Forget about the rest of it.

 

[pth2]

Myers to Montreal as a cap dump could make some sense. Forget about the rest of it.

Yup, and Montreal could use a RD, once Edmundson is moved (otherwise it's just too many bodies on D).

That being said, Myers has a cap hit that would make him the Habs big move of the summer, limiting options for weaponizing cap room otherwise, so unless a contract is going the other way, Myers needs a sweetener.

Myers and a 3d for Armia?
If we go bigger, other VAN fans mentioned Dvorak could be of use, there should be something that can get done, and Beauvilier could be of interest to Montreal if Vancouver doesn't see him as someone to build around.

But 11OA just isn't on the table for the kind of parts we're talking about.