GDT: 11/14/15 - Freeway Faceoff! Houston Aeros @ Dallas Stars - 7PM CT / 3AM Suomi - FS-N

[Dr Jan Itor]

Ha. I've thought the same thing. What happened to Jamie Hirsch?

NHL Network

 

[Alexandrov]

Okay, you think it's a joke. That's fine. But how about some idea about how the Wild should play during the 3 on 3 that gives them a better chance?

Not really our job.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Not really our job.

But way less annoying than complaining.

 

[Hall of Faber]

I mean we won our OT against the canes. No one whined about 3 on 3 that time.

Truth.

It's simple. If you don't think your is going to control the puck start back checking.

 

[BusQuets]

How many odd-man rushes Stars had before they scored? I think they had quite many and the fact that Wild couldn't even counter from those after Duby made saves is really weird.

 

[gphr513]

3 on 3 OT is awesome.

 

[Avder]

don't care if we win every single one, it's objectively terrible

if you want tired players + line changes to dictate winners...


shootout isn't ideal, but at least teams had an even chance to win the game

No, it's your opinion that it's terrible. That makes it subjective.

And how about you come up with some ideas on how the Wild could play 3 on 3 more effectively? We see this after every overtime loss from you.

3 on 3 was born from a dislike of the shootout, which itself was born from a hatred of ties. That's where the NHL is going, and no amount of *****ing about 3 on 3 is going to get the NHL to change its mind when it has been overwhelmingly successful in reducing the number of shootouts in the league.

So, again, how about you come up with some comments on how the wild should play or commentary on how terribly they played during the 3 on 3 instead of just *****ing about 3 on 3 itself?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think they should get rid of the long change, but that's my only issue with it.

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

I've seen a lot of teams pass it to their goalie if they are going for a line change during 3v3

 

[Avder]

Not really our job.

Then how about commenting on the game, which this thread is about, than complaining about 3 on 3 itself?

 

[Avder]

I think they should get rid of the long change, but that's my only issue with it.

Eh, it's to increase the chance of someone being able to score. And it was implemented last year for OT as well as you remember.

Too bad they ditched the dry scrape before OT. That really improved the ice for it. So what if it added a brief mini-intermission?

I've seen a lot of teams pass it to their goalie if they are going for a line change during 3v3

That's something the Wild should think about doing, yeah. That way the goalie can cover if he's pressured, and once the line change is done he can try to snap a good lead pass out to someone in the neutral zone.

 

[123TripleDoge]

No, it's your opinion that it's terrible. That makes it subjective.

And how about you come up with some ideas on how the Wild could play 3 on 3 more effectively? We see this after every overtime loss from you.

3 on 3 was born from a dislike of the shootout, which itself was born from a hatred of ties. That's where the NHL is going, and no amount of *****ing about 3 on 3 is going to get the NHL to change its mind when it has been overwhelmingly successful in reducing the number of shootouts in the league.

So, again, how about you come up with some comments on how the wild should play or commentary on how terribly they played during the 3 on 3 instead of just *****ing about 3 on 3 itself?

It's objective in the sense that it's by far the furthest thing from a fair / game representation ending to a game. You're taking out a 4v4 (which is fair and by far the best solution). After that, at least each team has a fair chance to shoot the puck in the shootout. It's like the NFL having an overtime with "first field goal wins". It's complete garbage and not fair. In a sport where puck battles and luck play a ton into where the puck goes, it's a terrible format.

At the very least, do 4v4 and then 3v3.. but going straight to 3v3 is like elementary school level bad. You don't go straight to 2v2 in NBA overtime, you don't go 7v7 in the NFL, you don't take out outfielders in the MLB, you dont whatever soccer whatever.

It's objectively a poor way to do it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Eh, it's to increase the chance of someone being able to score. And it was implemented last year for OT as well as you remember.

And it's probably accomplishing it's goal, but you're also seeing guys trapped out there that are dead tired. Fresher players , better quality of play, IMO.

 

[melinko]

One thing we should be doing more of in 3 on 3 is pulling up on a rush/play to reset our possession.

We seem to be too comfortable in making every possible rush into a scoring chance, rarely do we say "this isn't good enough" and pull the puck back out of the zone or loop back towards the blue line.

We end up with stationary players in front of the going for a screen or tip and the weakness of 75% of our players is their speed, causes us to lose races to the pucks.

 

[plock]

Look, you can complain about it all you want, but it's here to stay.

How about we talk about ways the Wild could play 3 on 3 better than just saying "3 on 3 is a joke"?

You got some ideas on how we could do better 3 on 3?

I am not so sure it is here to stay,quite a few players dislike it.

3 on 3 ot really comes down to who scores first on a 2 on 1 breakaway.The Wild (and most teams) are built to play 5 on 5 they will win some of these ot games but the best plan would be to win in regulation.Our best players Parise,Koivu,Vanek etc... are not really huge offensive threats in 3 v 3,Zucker and Haula have some speed that could be dangerous.

 

[Alexandrov]

So what kind of a scoring chance Pominville needs to be set up with before he can put the puck in the net? I mean it was inches from the goal line and one guy was able to deny him twice with a SKATE

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It's objective in the sense that it's by far the furthest thing from a fair / game representation ending to a game. You're taking out a 4v4 (which is fair and by far the best solution). After that, at least each team has a fair chance to shoot the puck in the shootout. It's like the NFL having an overtime with "first field goal wins". It's complete garbage and not fair. In a sport where puck battles and luck play a ton into where the puck goes, it's a terrible format.

At the very least, do 4v4 and then 3v3.. but going straight to 3v3 is like elementary school level bad. You don't go straight to 2v2 in NBA overtime, you don't go 7v7 in the NFL, you don't take out outfielders in the MLB, you dont whatever soccer whatever.

It's objectively a poor way to do it.

Again, it's subjectively a poor way to do it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

So what kind of a scoring chance Pominville needs to be set up with before he can put the puck in the net? I mean it was inches from the goal line and one guy was able to deny him twice with a SKATE

Once. He fanned on the first one.

 

[HollaHaula]

Once. He fanned on the first one.

"Fanned" should be interchangeable with "Pommer'd"

 

[123TripleDoge]

Again, it's subjectively a poor way to do it.

it's objective, because of the available options, it's the furthest away from actual hockey

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

it's objective, because of the available options, it's the furthest away from actual hockey

I consider 6 (or more) straight breakaways with no defense the furthest away from actual hockey.

 

[57special]

I think we have all sorts of talent to put out there on a 3 v 3. All of our Dmen, with the exception of Folin and Dumba ( till he gets playing better) are great fits for it. Nino, Coyle, Zukcer , Haula( surprised he hasn't got out there yet), Koivu isn't a bad choice as long as the other guys have speed, Parise. I would even like Porter out there because he is fast and doesn't get beaten in puck battles.

Vanek is too careless with the puck for my taste... He would have to be surrounded with speed.

Poms and Bruce look so bad now I don't know what to say... I hope they don't drag down Vanek, now.

I would be fine having Scandella and Spurgeon out there at the same time.

 

[Bruce Granville]

I mean we won our OT against the canes. No one whined about 3 on 3 that time.

Oh yeah...Canes, Stars...no difference at all.

 

[BusQuets]

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib
Dubnyk on Scandella: "It’s a difficult time for him right now. We miss him when he’s gone, but we know some things are more important."

Have i missed something, what's going on with Scandella?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib
Dubnyk on Scandella: "It’s a difficult time for him right now. We miss him when he’s gone, but we know some things are more important."

Have i missed something, what's going on with Scandella?

No specifics. Missing time for 'personal reasons'.