Rumor: 1/14/16 Lavoie: Drouin trade possibly soon | Friedman: STL, ANA, NSH frontrunners

[DFC]

It's Yzerman we're talking about... he's gotta wait at least 2 weeks before he does ANYTHING. It may as well be a rule with him.

It's been a lot longer than that since the initial request. I don't think there's any pressure on him to make a trade here if he doesn't get what he wants. Drouin is not a contributing part of our team (yet), and we can't take salary back in a trade anyway, which makes it hard to improve the team immediately via trade. So there's no point in making a trade just to resolve the situation. It's barely a situation, in the big picture.

Compared to the MSL ordeal, this is nothing. And there are plenty of reports saying Yzerman almost didn't pull the trigger on that trade, and wouldn't have if NYR hadn't sweetened the offer at the last minute.

Drouin will likely be moved at some point. But in the near future? It could still go either way. Even if he's already played his last game as a Bolt.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

What is with these rumors about throwing Bishop into the deal? In what way does that make us a better team? I understand the cap implications but losing Bishop makes us worse immediately, especially with Elliott coming back. St. Louis has Allen already anyways.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I bet if Drouin is moved it's a multi player kinda trade.

By the sound of things, I think you're correct. Especially if it involves St Louis.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What is with these rumors about throwing Bishop into the deal? In what way does that make us a better team? I understand the cap implications but losing Bishop makes us worse immediately, especially with Elliott coming back. St. Louis has Allen already anyways.

I know i wasn't understanding the Bishop and Elliott rumor either. I don't see how this benefits either team Bishop makes far more then Elliott and Elliott is a major downgrade from Bishop. Can't see St Louis doing it because Bishop makes more then Elliott and i can't see Tampa doing it because Elliott is a downgrade compared to Bishop.

 

[DFC]

Pretty sure the rumor was HF generated. Can't imagine why we'd trade Bishop (team MVP) right now.

 

[These Are The Days]

No way Bishop is involved. And I sincerely doubt that a defenseman is coming back from St. Louis. It's gonna be way too much money. We can barely afford the team as it as it is.

 

[Hoek]

Yeah that rumor makes me want to smack a lot of people... HARD.

 

[Todd1a]

ya at this point i do drouin for galchenyuk all day every day

keep in mind one bad seed can kill a clubhouse we almost had it happen with the marty shiotttt

then also we would have the three russians to have kucherov vladdy and gally lol with stamkos johnson palat and flipper callahan killer
boyle paquette brown condra jam

forgit about it

So would I but Montreal won't

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Pretty sure the rumor was HF generated. Can't imagine why we'd trade Bishop (team MVP) right now.

I can't keep track of what's real or not on HF Boards anymore... People run wild with bogus rumors all the time, even if there is no link posted. In the past that stuff would be filtered out.

 

[TampaBoltz]

Bob McKenzie mentioned that if we were talking to Minnesota, Charlie Coyle could be a piece we could look at. I can't believe that they would give him up. But he is a big Palat like player, that would fit in great with our young, small forward group. He just entered his 5 year bridge deal of 3.2M. So it probably would take a couple of pieces. I would love this deal: Drouin & Killorn for Dumba and Coyle. We may have to throw a draft pick in. But it depends on how much they might want Drouin. Coyle can play C or RW. That is a deal I would be very excited about. I know it's just another rumor.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Bob McKenzie mentioned that if we were talking to Minnesota, Charlie Coyle could be a piece we could look at. I can't believe that they would give him up. But he is a big Palat like player, that would fit in great with our young, small forward group. He just entered his 5 year bridge deal of 3.2M. So it probably would take a couple of pieces. I would love this deal: Drouin & Killorn for Dumba and Coyle. We may have to throw a draft pick in. But it depends on how much they might want Drouin. Coyle can play C or RW. That is a deal I would be very excited about. I know it's just another rumor.

I would be all in for that trade.

 

[Todd1a]

Bob McKenzie mentioned that if we were talking to Minnesota, Charlie Coyle could be a piece we could look at. I can't believe that they would give him up. But he is a big Palat like player, that would fit in great with our young, small forward group. He just entered his 5 year bridge deal of 3.2M. So it probably would take a couple of pieces. I would love this deal: Drouin & Killorn for Dumba and Coyle. We may have to throw a draft pick in. But it depends on how much they might want Drouin. Coyle can play C or RW. That is a deal I would be very excited about. I know it's just another rumor.

No I don't like losing Killorn

 

[Callum]

Galchenyuk for Drouin I could live with.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

Retweeted BrianWilde (@BWildeCTV):
The ask for Drouin appears to be an NHL roster defenceman and a Grade A prospect. ‪#‎Habs‬ ‪#‎Lightning‬





Retweeted BrianWilde (@BWildeCTV):
@SantinoFasulo Blues balked on one of the parts so now they're making it more complex. No one is out until they're out.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

now i dont know a ton about mr wilde but ummmm

if we are insisting on nhl defender does that mean carle is toast

 

[JedYzerman]

now i dont know a ton about mr wilde but ummmm

if we are insisting on nhl defender does that mean carle is toast

We can only hope.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Ducks GM Bob Murray per https://twitter.com/helenenothelen

"If you listen to everybody and listen to all the…we’re one of the front runners in that aren’t we? Every time I turn the page I hear we’re making a deal with a certain team on the East Coast. There’s more than just him that’s probably out there and available right now. let’s just leave it at that. We’re looking at a whole bunch of things. We know he’s there but there’s a few others out there, too, that haven’t requested trades. Requesting trades on entry level that’s something new for your and I."

Looks like the public trade request has maybe rubbed some teams the wrong way despite his talent and potential.

 

[Stammertime91]

Bob McKenzie mentioned that if we were talking to Minnesota, Charlie Coyle could be a piece we could look at. I can't believe that they would give him up. But he is a big Palat like player, that would fit in great with our young, small forward group. He just entered his 5 year bridge deal of 3.2M. So it probably would take a couple of pieces. I would love this deal: Drouin & Killorn for Dumba and Coyle. We may have to throw a draft pick in. But it depends on how much they might want Drouin. Coyle can play C or RW. That is a deal I would be very excited about. I know it's just another rumor.

I'm down. Bye Alex, you suck.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Ducks GM Bob Murray per https://twitter.com/helenenothelen



Looks like the public trade request has maybe rubbed some teams the wrong way despite his talent and potential.

How can he talk about Drouin this way in a public forum? Is this not tampering?

 

[dechire]

How can he talk about Drouin this way in a public forum? Is this not tampering?

No since Drouin isn't even close to being a free agent

 

[Leonardo87]

I'm down. Bye Alex, you suck.

Yeah think we could survive without Killorn. Not crazy about him on the 2nd line. It's like the Diet Coke of TKO, just one calorie not TKO enough.

If it gets us a nice package then go for it! I do sense a multi player trade with this, but who knows.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

No since Drouin isn't even close to being a free agent

Talking about players in public can still sway public perception of trade value, no? What exactly are the grounds for tampering?

 

[DFC]

Yeah think we could survive without Killorn. Not crazy about him on the 2nd line. It's like the Diet Coke of TKO, just one calorie not TKO enough.

If it gets us a nice package then go for it! I do sense a multi player trade with this, but who knows.

I think Killer has a role with us. It's just not the one he's currently filling. And I'd like to see him in at least one more post-season before we think about moving him. Short sample, yeah, but he's been a very valuable playoff performer. And that's where it counts.

 

[dechire]

Talking about players in public can still sway public perception of trade value, no? What exactly are the grounds for tampering?

The term "tampering" doesn't exist in the CBA. It's the common term used to describe circumventing the CBA. The CBA doesn't prevent you from discussing other players. Otherwise coaches would have a really tough time when asked about the team they just faced. It prevents you from speaking to players on the team either directly or through the media and making promises, inferences, etc. Since Drouin is not a free agent it's not a relevant issue. Unless you think that in like 6 years Drouin would be signing with the Ducks because of this quote.

For example, Toronto fans saying "Why don't we just promise Stamkos endorsements if he signs here" are talking about CBA circumvention. That's a whole different thing than this.

Here is the relevant section of the CBA:

26.3 Circumventions.
(a) No Club or Club Actor, directly or indirectly, may: (i) enter into any agreements,
promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or
understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without
limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take
any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or
Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the
provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the
financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range,
Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.

Murray made a point of not expressing intent, making an assurance, committing, etc. He essentially just said "It's a possibility." Poile in Nashville for example has already said that he's in on Drouin. There's no rule in the CBA against GMs saying they're interested in trading for an available player. There is a rule against a GM contacting a player and telling them to request a trade.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Bob McKenzie mentioned that if we were talking to Minnesota, Charlie Coyle could be a piece we could look at. I can't believe that they would give him up. But he is a big Palat like player, that would fit in great with our young, small forward group. He just entered his 5 year bridge deal of 3.2M. So it probably would take a couple of pieces. I would love this deal: Drouin & Killorn for Dumba and Coyle. We may have to throw a draft pick in. But it depends on how much they might want Drouin. Coyle can play C or RW. That is a deal I would be very excited about. I know it's just another rumor.

I would even add a pick for that trade.
Coyle is AMAZING