“There wasn’t much but I wanted a penalty against Nashville” UPD Tim Peel early retirement PART 2

[Stive Morgan]

The NHL has to realise, if refs are "Managing" games, they are literally a half a step away from "fixing" games.

It's the same thing imo. It's like your mayor only embezzling $1,000,000 instead of $2,000,000. Doing it even just a little bit is just plain wrong.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

Late to the party here, but I assume someone has made the point that Peel has a slam dunk wrongful dismissal case?

Peel going to get paid! And he deserves to. This is an NHL problem, Not a Tim Peel problem.

They never said hes fired, they said he wont ref anymore games. You can get demoted and still do desk duty as punishment and it does not count as being fired. The NHL covered their bases here.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

It's the same thing imo. It's like your mayor only embezzling $1,000,000 instead of $2,000,000. Doing it even just a little bit it just plain wrong.

I hope Tim Cook spills the beans.

 

[LGBlues]

Should have the whole quote in fairness to him but it does not make sense with Nashville - if he said he wanted to call a notorious team that tries to cheap shot to win it only means he wanted them to know they will be called right away. Nashville is not one of those teams.

 

[kicksavedave]

We have extensive analytics for players, it would be super easy to have stats and analytics for refs to weed out blatant bias. I doubt the refs are capable of randomizing their bias properly.

If the NHL actually cared at all about this it would be done... but they don't. They only care about appearances.

 

[cbcwpg]

Let's assume for one second that the NHL did not tell it's officials to "manage games".

If people sitting at home can see it, and people in the rinks can see it, and the players can see it, and the coaches can see it, and the GMs can see it, and ex. refs even acknowledge it .... then sure as hell the NHL knows it's happening. And if its happening and the NHL has not stepped in to stop it, then that means the NHL is OK with it.

 

[Duffalufagus]

They never said hes fired, they said he wont ref anymore games. You can get demoted and still do desk duty as punishment and it does not count as being fired. The NHL covered their bases here.

Okay. Constructive dismissal then. Tomato/Tomato. Unless they continue to pay him his exact same salary (or however his compensation works).

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

O’Halloran retired, someone has to take his place

 

[Sol]

Duchene actually said that Tim Peele was taking to the Nashville bench and the coach when he was saying that, so that makes it even more bizzare.

There you go. All the "game management isn't bad". When an NHL player says the concept is ridiculous then you have no case behind it. Tim Peele is an utter douche if what Matt is saying is true. What an ego trip. The NHL must take care of the game management issue. It's making people hate the game more than liking it. And if the NHL is cool with it or even supports it you can probably assume there's some sort of gambling they're doing to fix matches potentially. Just an opinion but it opens the door to that as well. And not only does it do that, the integrity of all their actions should be met with some skepticism.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

NHL need to be fined for embellishing.

 

[darth5]

I saw on Twitter that Nate Silver linked to this 2015 study on NHL 'makeup calls'.
Interesting analysis of what any casual fan sees every game...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hockey-refs-are-out-to-get-you-if-they-already-got-the-other-guy/

 

[Duffalufagus]

Looks like Peel planned on retiring anyway in a month. Of course the NHL thought they could sweep this under the rug by firing a guy who was retiring anyway.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

The “f*** you you’re getting a f***ing embellishment” guy gets an early retirement. That moment was legendary.

 

[nbwingsfan]

One play against and Boston fans of all people are calling games rigged. I agree officiating is garbage and it should have been a penalty, but if you wanna see rigged go back and re-watch game 2 of the first round in 2019, now THAT was rigged. Hands down the worst officiated game I have ever seen across all sports. There's a difference between a missed call/game management and rigging a game in 1 teams favor. That gif right there is a terrible missed call.

Poor Leafs

The league always rigging games to make sure they dont win. Would have at least 7 Cups by now.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Someone try to tell me it's not rigged.

Please make excuses for this meme officiating.

Wow they missed 1 call, that clearly outweighs the other games that series where officiating was clearly in Boston's favor. Maybe Acciari should've gotten up and other Boston players should've stayed with the play instead of complaining for a call before the whistle had blown and maybe they wouldn't have lost.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Has anyone said, "You can't make this thread" yet?

 

[Novalanche]

Came to post about Chris Lee, either 100% biased or 100% incompetent either way shouldn’t be a ref in the NHL

and both Chris Lee and Tim Peel are from Saint John, NB

 

[EichHart]

We already knew this was rigged. Do you guys not remember the 1999 Stanley Cup final with the foot in the crease? They changed the rule the following season.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Late to the party here, but I assume someone has made the point that Peel has a slam dunk wrongful dismissal case?

Peel going to get paid! And he deserves to. This is an NHL problem, Not a Tim Peel problem.

Peel should have been fired years ago for incompetence, terrible referee. At least now he gets to leave in disgrace.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

The worst thing about this whole thing is the number of people who are writing this off as a bad referee and not a serious problem with how NHL games are officiated in general, which is certainly something that is directed from the league office. Game management is stupid and needs to stop. If there's a penalty, call it. If not, don't.

It's not like we're dealing with rogue actors here.

 

[GBLeaf]

Good job they don't record the jobbing against Leafs on a nightly basis, there'd be no refs left.

 

[Nucker101]

I wish it was Sutherland, that dude despises the Canucks for some bizarre reason, especially in playoff games. When a fanbase starts to become too familiar with a ref’s name, you know he’s a problem.

 

[Duffalufagus]

Peel should have been fired years ago for incompetence, terrible referee. At least now he gets to leave in disgrace.

If by "disgrace" you mean "martyr", then I agree. I also agree he was a shit ref.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

Just to reiterate the points that I and many others have already made in various forms, the refs are employees of the league. The NHL is essentially an oligopolistic cartel whose ONLY focus is profit, leavened with a healthy dose of inbred old-boyism. There is very, very, very, little actual independence given to refs, so why blame Peel or any of the others? They are following the written and unwritten game management rules decreed by the owners, via Bettman and Daly. If the refs actually called the games fairly, they would get into trouble. To the league, it's a feature, not a bug. And the only reason the owners are pretending to care is optics for the push into expanded gambling revenues. They will never legitimately care about or act on player safety or fairness or anything that has the potential to ding their investments. Never.

 

[Ciao]

Poor Leafs

The league always rigging games to make sure they dont win. Would have at least 7 Cups by now.

They have 13 of them.