Friedman: “Stealth team for Noah Hanifin: Vancouver”

[Frankie Blueberries]

I'd be thrilled if we got Hanifin, but probably not at what the cost would be.
Assuming we don't deal Horvat, Boeser, or Pettersson, the only valuable assets that aren't untouchable we have are: 7th overall, Juolevi, Tanev, Gaudette, and Demko. I really hope we don't trade the bolded.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

#7 Overall + Tanev + Markström
For
Noah Hanifin + Victor Rask

No.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

How far apart in value is the 7th overall pick and Hanifin, straight up?
I only ask this because this draft is a bit different, with picks 4-7 likely having plenty of great defencemen available to draft. If Hanifin was in this draft, would he be a clear cut ahead of Boqvist, Hughes, Dobson, and Bouchard?

 

[Kamiccolo]

I mean they took him at 5 and he hasnt disappointed and is more developed than any prospect from this draft. Add in that Vancouver likely doesnt want to move their proven forwards and the only logical trade is 7th + for Hanifin.

Uhh McDavid, Eichel, and Marner all went ahead of him and are all more developed. That's not even considering Provorov or Werenski.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Hanifin is a stud. Young potential #1 D in the making.

Canes should ask for Pettersson+ or Horvat+

No reason they should ask for anything less if a less proven Jones can return a #1 C like Johansen.

 

[Starat327]

Uhh McDavid, Eichel, and Marner all went ahead of him and are all more developed. That's not even considering Provorov or Werenski.

This, not his. I'm assuming they mean hes more developed than anyone you take in the 2018 draft. Seems like an odd comment though, as someone drafted two years ago being more developed should go without saying.

 

[Kamiccolo]

This, not his. I'm assuming they mean hes more developed than anyone you take in the 2018 draft. Seems like an odd comment though, as someone drafted two years ago being more developed should go without saying.

Ok I misunderstood the comment then. Of course someone with three years of NHL experience is more developed than a kid in junior who is 3 years younger. Would be nice if that strategy worked.

"Hey Carolina, now I know you like this Salavin kid, but Marleau is WAYY more developed than he is. Maybe we can work something out?".

 

[bluedevil58]

Vancouver can't afford Hanafan. Not worthwhile young forward.

 

[AvatarAang]

7th overall straight up seems fair.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Vancouver can't afford Hanafan. Not worthwhile young forward.

7th overall could be Wahlstrom or Tkachuk.

 

[bluedevil58]

7th overall could be Wahlstrom or Tkachuk.

Unproven NHL talent for a proven top pairing dman. Does that trade make sense to you?

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Unproven NHL talent for a proven top pairing dman. Does that trade make sense to you?

You could use this logic for ANY prospect/draft pick trade for an NHLer. Clearly, GMs think differently than you do. Can't think of a good comparable right now, but one that comes to mind is Iginla for Nieuwendyk even though Iginla hadn't played a game in the NHL at that point.

 

[Superlative Soup]

Unproven NHL talent for a proven top pairing dman. Does that trade make sense to you?

Hanifin is promising but by what metric is he considered a top pairing dman?

 

[bluedevil58]

Hanifin is promising but by what metric is he considered a top pairing dman?

32 points at 21.

 

[MinJaBen]

7th and Demko

 

[PetterssonSimp]

32 points at 21.

I’m sure if we pulled up the TOI he’d be behind Pesce and Slavin as a minimum.

 

[Svechhammer]

Do not think some canuck fans would be happy with that offer

I don't think Canuck fans will be happy with any price the Canes will accept for Hanifin.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

7th and Demko

That would be a tough pill to swallow considering Demko is our starter in the next year or so. Would consider DiPietro though.

 

[Icebreakers]

Hanifin doesn't have the offensive puck moving skills to be a true #1 on a contender. He will be in the Hampus Lindholm mold. A solid #2.

 

[bluedevil58]

I’m sure if we pulled up the TOI he’d be behind Pesce and Slavin as a minimum.

That's because those 2 are premiere top pairing shut down dman that are mobile and big. Disagree? Where does hanafan stack up in pairings in Vancouver?

 

[WhatWhat]

Uhh McDavid, Eichel, and Marner all went ahead of him and are all more developed. That's not even considering Provorov or Werenski.

more developed than any prospect from "this" draft

As in no one from this draft, the one happening in a month, will be as far developped except for maybe Dahlin. He has done nothing to disappoint and has 3 years of development under his belt. At this point I dont see how he isnt worth slightly more than the 5th. So 7th + is completely reasonable

 

[Cogburn]

I wonder what we would have to throw to Carolina to get them talking?

If we keep Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson and our 1st this year it's a steal and we should do it with no thought. If this rumor is true, and Friedman backs it up with nothing but a sentence, I wonder which of the 4 pieces is the starting point....

 

[elitebottomsix]

Hanifin for Juolevi bartschi Hutton.

Canes

bartschi helps replace skinner when they trade him. Hutton replaces Hanifin on third pair next year and add a top d prospect in Juolevi.

Canucks

Add young nhl dman that has a good shot of developing into top pair guy. (So could Juolevi but Hanifin the safer bet at this point).

 

[WhatWhat]

This, not his. I'm assuming they mean hes more developed than anyone you take in the 2018 draft. Seems like an odd comment though, as someone drafted two years ago being more developed should go without saying.

It was just meant as he was a 5th overall pick who hasnt disappointed and has 3 years of development under his belt. I wouldnt move a player that like that for the 5th again and hope the new player develops equally well. So I would assume pick wise it would have to be 7th + something semi decent seeing as they would have no reason to deal him for the 5th pick alone and Vancouver dont even have that one

 

[McDrai]

E5 = Elliotte5