McFlash97
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Post-Game Talk: “I think I know a little bit about winning.” - Coffey, but unironically
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guymez
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He wasnt good and it was for an extended period of time.
Even back in the playoffs (and during the 2023/23 season) he was making very poor decisions.
I wont get into it here but I detailed some of the inexplicable mistakes Nurse was making in another thread.
Nurse is not a #1...never has been. He is overpaid by $2-3M.
Ekholm is a better defender and delivers much better value...full stop.
I do however hope that Nurse continues with his good play. The team needed him to be better and hopefully he can sustain that.
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Only boom boom room I know well is my single bathroom in my house. Was in there for 40 mins today! That A and W makes quick exists loo
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Im just hoping for some positive narrative at this point. Grasping at straws really …
Fantastic recovery by the team. Everyone's chipping in and doing their part. They may not all be scoring, but they're all playing to their strengths as a team.
Wrong.
If you took Nurse off this team and had Ekholm take the nurse role of the last 5 years.
Ekholm would have drowned.
guymez
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Based on the fact that Nurse is the better player.
Theres a reason both coaches in Edmonton have still used Nurse in the number 1 role.
guymez
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So your contention is that if the team put Ekholm with Ceci and Nurse with Bouchard the Ekholm/Ceci pariing would get caved and the Nurse/Bouchard pairing would excel?
Thats a fantasy.
guymez
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Ekholm was the primary reason why Bouchard turned his game around. Ekholm provided Bouchard with a rock solid D partner. A predictable D partner that made the right defensive read and the right play the vast majority of the time. That gave Bouchard some room to grow into becoming a better Dman.
Just think back to when Nurse and Bouchard were paired together. It was a disaster.
Why do you think that was? Nurse is a stallion...playing a simple game is not natural to him.
He is prone to going off on his own. That means stepping out of structure...puck watching...making poor reads and poor decisions. Being too single minded about how to approach playing in the D zone.
The exact type of D partner that causes a young D man like Bouchard to drown.
Exactly the wrong type of partner. This is why there were so many calls on here to get Nurse a stable D partner...regardless of whether he was with Ceci or Bouchard.
Its because Nurse didnt bring that element to the table so he needed a D partner to provide that.
Right now the coaching staff has managed to influence Nurse enough for him to play a more simple game. To have him resist the need to roam. To play a calmer game...more like Ekholm.
So far its working.
Will it have longevity?
We shall see because this type of game is not how Nurse is naturally wired.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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What we saw against EDM where he scored and then was, I won't say invisible but was a non threat, has happened most games this year. He goes long stretches in games doing absolutely nothing. But he's small, still has kid strength and doesn't have McDavid's speed so everyone else is able to keep up with him and neutralize him pretty easily. Fact is he clearly can't take over a game like McDavid and Crosby could early on in their careers and will need a lot more help moving forward. But when he gets it he will be at or near the top of the league in scoring I imagine down the road. For now though he has a lot of work to do.
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If you can list our bums like Korpikoski, Fayne, Gryba and so forth, you can list theirs too. Listing them all as "guy" makes them seem even worse than they actually are.
A lot of them aren't even really bums. Every have I've seen of the hawks their fourth line was their best line.
Even some of the unlisted bums... Like a guy like Kurashev is the one stirring the drink on Bedards line most of the time I find. He's the guy that gets the puck back and gives it to Bedard, otherwise the line kind of just gets nothing done.
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I didn't want to take the time. If people don't want to see the difference in quality between the two teams they are just putting their head in the sand. There are 4 or 5 players on the Oilers that season that are better than anyone on the Hawks.
He's very good as a 4th liner on a team where he's not expected to produce offensively and where his lack of size and speed can be compensated. Gagner's problem in his younger years was that he was a high pick and people expected too much of him.
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I will say that unlike his predecessor, Knob keeps the lines together more often than not, especially when he sees some chemistry and success. Whereas Woodcroft would bust them up as soon as the team was down a goal or more. Knob also changed up the PK, having 3 consistent forward parings doing most of the heavy lifting, and saving McDavid and Drai for the heavy 5 on 5 and PP work. More players seem to be much more involved under Knob.
And yes, agreed, the defence is night and day now under Coff.
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