Sure, but which do you think was more impactful? The 5 HoFers that the Ducks acquired in those 4 years, or the other minor deals?
You realize that the Ducks are in year 3 of their rebuild right? They dont need 5 more years.
I figure next season is the last season of the rebuild.
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Getzlaf | x | x | x | x | x | |
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none of them will if you move out all the current nhl talent.You guys are putting too much hope into zegras and drysdale. Ive seen enough the next wayne gretzky to know that you cant rely on 1 or 2 prospects in your pool
Thats why im in the boat to get hundreds of picks to see who floats
You guys are putting too much hope into zegras and drysdale. Ive seen enough the next wayne gretzky to know that you cant rely on 1 or 2 prospects in your pool
Thats why im in the boat to get hundreds of picks to see who floats
Calgary is not adding a 1st to Bennet for Rakell lol
The percentages of panning out to be a star was 80% in the top 3. In the late teens, the percentage was about 16%.2015: rd 1, 27th D Larsson
.......... rd 2, C Nattinen (just did not pan out in NA)
.......... rd 5, RW Terry
2016: rd 1, 24th LW Jones
.......... rd 1, 30th C Steel
.......... rd 3, D Mahura
2017: rd 2, Comtois
2018: rd 1, 23rd C Lundestrom
.......... rd 2, C Groulx
.......... rd 3, LW McLaughlin
.......... rd 3, G Dostal
2019: rd 1, 9th C Zegras
.......... rd 1, 28th LW Tracey
.......... rd 2, D LaCombe
.......... rd 4, D Thrun
2020: rd 1, 6th D Drysdale
........... rd 1, 27th RW Perreault
........... rd 2, RW Colangelo
........... rd 3, D Moore
You mean like this? We doubled up on first round picks in 2016, 2019, and 2020. The difference between Zegras and Drysdale with the rest of the picks is that they're both top-10 picks. Everyone else was selected 23rd overall or further. By historical percentage, top-10 picks have a higher percentage of making it in the NHL. The closer you are to #1, the better the chances of a player becoming an NHL player. Although we selected Zegras at #9 overall, some GMs had him pegged 3rd overall.
Acquiring Drysdale is very significant as he'll be an addition to the defense that already boasts Lindholm and Fowler. Drysdale wouldn't be seen as a needed savior, but solidifying a defensive corps to become even better. And it looks like we might have steals in D Thrun and D LaCombe in the far future.
Zegras is the only prospect that is getting the savior title only because of what he's accomplished since his draft year. He had 9 assists in limited minutes for the 2020 WJC's, looked great at Boston U, got ranked as the #1 overall NHL prospect for 2020, and then became 2021 WJC MVP in helping team USA win the gold medal. Then factor in the Ducks have had trouble scoring for the past few years and the savior title looms bigger. It may time some time before Zegras can become a established NHL'er, but he's going to need some help. Thank goodness the organization will have Scrooge McDuck (Gibson for greedily blocking shots) with his three nephews Huey, Dewey, and Louie (Lindholm, Drysdale, and Hakanpaa... just kidding, sorta, Fowler). The defense that Silf and Heinen bring to the table is invaluable as well as the fourth line! It's everywhere else that's up in the air for our forward group. We got this year to see any development to add with Zegras.
Make no mistake, Zegras has risen to the occasion ever since we drafted him. GM Murray asked Zegras to lead team USA to a gold medal and Zegras did just that. Did you see Zegras make that bold statement before the gold medal game that team USA will be the only team that will take it to the Canada? Geez! It's kinda difficult to not be amazed. LoL I was one of those fans that wanted to keep Zegras in the NCAA too!
Calgary is not adding a 1st to Bennet for Rakell lol
How much value do you think Bennett has? He’s a dime a dozen bottom 6 forward with an outside chance at tapping into some of his potential but it looks unlikely at this point.
We would not get their first rounder next season and bennett for rakell. I don't care what value you think either player has that is not going to happen it's unrealistic.
I mean I’ll take Zary/Pelletier over the 1st anywayI doubt anyone trades their first that is not on top half of standings this year, especially with expansion draft coming.
The thing about Zegras is we already have seen great deal since his draft year which boosts his probability. Look at Turcotte at 5 compared to him. He has already started playing well in SD..or Irvine. Every step where he continues to impress the odds go up. We all acknowledge that every player is a risk but have been very excite from what we have seen and so has fans across the rest of the NHL. Its been a long time since we had an asset like him in the system. Drysdale on the other hand is much more of a ?. He just hasn't shown as much even though I will say he has exceeded my expectations to date.The percentages of panning out to be a star was 80% in the top 3. In the late teens, the percentage was about 16%.
If we get rid of some of our aging players to some teams that need that extra guy for the push. It will be worth it. Thats why i keep saying we need to dump rakell, silf, and henrique. They will get the most.
Either way, we need more picks to find talent. I wouldnt mind finding a perry or a connor late in the draft. Steel is a good pick as he somewhat emerged this year. So trading silf or henrique or rakell for a prospect like steel would be worth it
Calgary is not adding a 1st to Bennet for Rakell lol
Bennett is a perfect fit for the Ducks. I hope we get him, still a chance he elevates his game and becomes a 40-50 point centerman that is solid defensively and extremely gritty. Let's not forget he was the 4th overall pick the same year we drafted Ritchie.
I'm not opposed to bringing in DeAngelo, especially if he is given big minutes this year, he could put up a lot of points. If we can keep his attitude in check and have him putting up points, we could flip him at the end of the year. Whether the rumors are true or not, he is a damn good OFD. 53 points in 68 games last year as a 24 year old. I won't get into his off ice issues, because if we can sort it out, we have a real gamer. Let's also not forget that Getz called the ref a Homophobic Slur a few years back. Everyone makes mistakes and if we can correct DeAngelos, it could be a huge W
I am using it to show that everyone has flaws and slips up at times , I’m not saying what getzlaf did is at the same severity as DeAngelos. I am just pointing out even our captain slips upThere’s a huge difference between using the word Getzlaf used and the history DeAngelo has. I can’t even believe you’re comparing the situations.
I am using it to show that everyone has flaws and slips up at times , I’m not saying what getzlaf did is at the same severity as DeAngelos. I am just pointing out even our captain slips up
The percentages of panning out to be a star was 80% in the top 3. In the late teens, the percentage was about 16%.
If we get rid of some of our aging players to some teams that need that extra guy for the push. It will be worth it. Thats why i keep saying we need to dump rakell, silf, and henrique. They will get the most.
Either way, we need more picks to find talent. I wouldnt mind finding a perry or a connor late in the draft. Steel is a good pick as he somewhat emerged this year. So trading silf or henrique or rakell for a prospect like steel would be worth it
Bennett is a perfect fit for the Ducks. I hope we get him, still a chance he elevates his game and becomes a 40-50 point centerman that is solid defensively and extremely gritty. Let's not forget he was the 4th overall pick the same year we drafted Ritchie.
I'm not boasting his draft status, I was mentioning it to show that there still might be some untapped potential given his draft position.I see Bennett as a 3C, low end 2C with our team. I'd still take him as he does add center talent to a team who's known for mass injuries and one Rico missing his mojo. Boasting a 4C's (he's a 4C with the Flames) 4th overall draft status isn't a high point for Bennett. That's like us boasting we traded for the #3 pick overall from the 2010 draft! Do you know who that player is?
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That was D Erik Gudbranson.
I literally said that what getzlaf did is not at the same severity as DeAngelos. I was trying to show that even our captain can slip up, never once saying it was anywhere near DeAngelo. If DeAngelo comes to Anaheim and a player like Getz puts him in check and DeAngelo learns from his past mistakes, it might be a trade worth pulling off. If he does cause issues, the Ducks can just buy him outThere’s a difference between the odd minor slip up and DeAngelos history.
deangelo is far past the point of "learning from past mistakes"I literally said that what getzlaf did is not at the same severity as DeAngelos. I was trying to show that even our captain can slip up, never once saying it was anywhere near DeAngelo. If DeAngelo comes to Anaheim and a player like Getz puts him in check and DeAngelo learns from his past mistakes, it might be a trade worth pulling off. If he does cause issues, the Ducks can just buy him out