Value of: Zuccarello at the draft

[Roof Daddy]

Just curious if he'd be available considering the current direction of the Rangers, and what the price would be? Also - if they're not trying to win/spend to the cap next year - would they retain 50%?

I'd be interested as an Oiler fan. Let's say our 2018 2nd lands around 37th, what do we add to make it happen (@50% retention)? Or are picks not that appealing considering the Rangers already have 3 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 thirds?

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[GoAwayPanarin]

Yamamoto+2nd for Zucc.

 

[AvatarAang]

HFboards will bring up repeatedly that he only has 1 more season left on his contract before he becomes a UFA.

There is a strange phenomenon here at HFBoards where a pending UFA is automatically assumed gone via free agency. Also weird that the minute he leaves Team X, fans of said team can suddenly remember every single flaw about that player.

But back to the original point, I'm guessing the "Brassard" return is the max he gets, likely less given Brassard's available for two playoff runs and I believe retained 50%, which I'm assuming the Rangers will do for Zuccarello as well.

I'll throw out a late 1st from a contending team and a "B" level prospect for Zuccarello at 50%.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Yamamoto+2nd for Zucc.

Nope. Kid’s murdering the WHL and we’ll need his cheap cap hit.

Counter with Benson+2nd+Conditional ‘19 2nd if Zucc re-signs, becomes Isles 3rd if he walks.

 

[Roof Daddy]

Yamamoto+2nd for Zucc.

Yikes.
Probably too steep a price for us then. I won't make any comments to downplay his value, I like him a lot and think he'd be a good fit with Draisaitl, but I wouldn't do Yamamoto straight up. Perhaps we see Yamamoto in a different light?

I was hoping more along the lines of Strome + 2018 2nd. Guess I'm off a bit.

 

[Alluckks]

Rangers would want a 1st minimum

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

No 1st, no Zucc

Simple as that

 

[ChaoticOrange]

No 1st, no Zucc

Simple as that

Our first will be worth considerably more than Zuccarello.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Our first will be worth considerably more than Zuccarello.

Doesn't have to be 2018

 

[Setec Astronomy]

He’ll bring back the Shero special, second and a third.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Yikes.
Probably too steep a price for us then. I won't make any comments to downplay his value, I like him a lot and think he'd be a good fit with Draisaitl, but I wouldn't do Yamamoto straight up. Perhaps we see Yamamoto in a different light?

I was hoping more along the lines of Strome + 2018 2nd. Guess I'm off a bit.

Putting aside the question of Yamamoto, what about either player would give you the idea that Strome+2nd would be an acceptable price for Zuccarello?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

2019 1st + conditional 2nd

 

[Cassano]

I think his value is similar if not better than Tatar's.

 

[Ori]

Just curious if he'd be available considering the current direction of the Rangers, and what the price would be? Also - if they're not trying to win/spend to the cap next year - would they retain 50%?

I'd be interested as an Oiler fan. Let's say our 2018 2nd lands around 37th, what do we add to make it happen (@50% retention)? Or are picks not that appealing considering the Rangers already have 3 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 thirds?

Yes, he might be available before the draft this summer with their current direction. They might retain 50% - it all depends of his return. @Roof Daddy

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I think his value is similar if not better than Tatar's.

If he was dealt at the TDL like Tatar his value would probably be greater. Now I'm not sure. I'd say a first, a B /B+prospect, and a midround pick is probably closer. If Edmonton wouldn't move Yamamoto I don't see a deal with them they have a really bare prospect pool out side of Yam

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Yikes.
Probably too steep a price for us then. I won't make any comments to downplay his value, I like him a lot and think he'd be a good fit with Draisaitl, but I wouldn't do Yamamoto straight up. Perhaps we see Yamamoto in a different light?

I was hoping more along the lines of Strome + 2018 2nd. Guess I'm off a bit.

Yea that's certainly off

 

[Ori]

Our first will be worth considerably more than Zuccarello.

Yes true, but maybe 2019 1st is better for that kind of deal, because I believe that Oilers are back in the playoffs race as early as next year especially if they acquire a player of Zucc quality with so many years of playoffs experience.

 

[JT Kreider]

I'm done commenting on our players values. Who the f*** knows what he is actually worth.

That said I am quite eager to see if we can get even more picks and prospects for Zucc, Namestnikov and Spooner at the draft

 

[Roof Daddy]

Putting aside the question of Yamamoto, what about either player would give you the idea that Strome+2nd would be an acceptable price for Zuccarello?

Blind optimism?

 

[DanielBrassard]

2019 1st+ ok prospect or 3rd round pick.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Blind optimism?

Fair enough.

 

[Beacon]

Zucc is better than Nash. on a better contract. 3 years younger, so better re-sign value.

Nash got #1, #7, B prospect, third liner in Spooner

Shattenkirk rental got 1, 2, couple of B prospects. Zucc is better.

So maybe a pair of B/B+ prospects, #1 and a #2 that turns into #1 if the buying team makes the SCF for Zuccarello at 50% retained (and he's alreafy cheap).

 

[PAZ]

I'm done commenting on our players values. Who the **** knows what he is actually worth.

That said I am quite eager to see if we can get even more picks and prospects for Zucc, Namestnikov and Spooner at the draft

I'll be surprised if Spooner or Nami go that quickly. They're young enough to fit in if the Rangers are able to rebuild quickly. Honestly, it would be a huge mistake if the Rangers go complete scorch earth rebuild and leave Zibanjed with a bunch of rookies and plugs. It's a lot harder making it out of the hole than it seems, even with an elite player (Buffalo + Eichel) or with a crap-ton of young talent (Arizona).

 

[tradenashnow]

There is no point trading zoo Zucc. You need to have quality vets around with kids during the rebuild otherwise you'll be like the Oilers and stink for years.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

I don't want to see him traded, he brings more value to the Rangers than anyone would be willing to pay for. Plus he should be captain and a role model for the youth.