Post-Game Talk: Zibanejad worst Ranger since.....?

[romba]

He should have left his stick and covered the guy physically like all NHLers due in that type of situation

 

[zlev]

Right. Even the bad teams have good players in the positions I identified.

Every roster is flawed. Having underperforming centers and defensemen playing huge minutes is not a typical flaw. Even bad teams have those positions shored up.

That's not to say there isn't more to it, but we can't expect to contend without upgrades at C and D.

now do Trouba *laughing up my sleeve*

 

[Profet]

He should have left his stick and covered the guy physically like all NHLers due in that type of situation

"He" (Zibanejad) and "physically" used in the same sentence...

Well that's cute.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I'm missing something. Why would Arizona want Lindgren?

You gotta make the playoffs again at some point. This summer and next is when they should be moving draft and prospect capital for legit NHL'ers to build an actual team to supplement their high end youth.

 

[hardnosed]

You gotta make the playoffs again at some point. This summer and next is when they should be moving draft and prospect capital for legit NHL'ers to build an actual team to supplement their high end youth.

Lindgren is a RFA at this year's end and an UFA after next year. So either they think they can sign him long term or they are planning to compete for the Cup next year. I don't think either is a realistic possibility.

 

[hackeyman]

It’s an average post at best.

Just because you bozo's have no sense of humor and can't appreciate the comedic genius of @will1066 doesn't make it not so. It's no wonder Robin Williams killed himself.

 

[stratguy13]

I will say this to everybody on here too and you guys can laugh like we do every few years but if this fails and the coach and GM are out next year, they better bring in Mess. If they bring in some clown, Sather is back at the helm, or they promote a guy like Ryan Martin, you all better start rooting for another team or picking up a new hobby. 80+ years and the only reason they have a Cup is because Messier had the stones and drive to win, win, win. He did it twice without 99. I have no doubt he'd make a solid executive here. He knows winners from losers. Don't think he doesn't sit there each day laughing and ripping players on this team for being gutless.

AMEN!! Ive been saying this for years

 

[will1066]

Just because you bozo's have no sense of humor and can't appreciate the comedic genius of @will1066 doesn't make it not so. It's no wonder Robin Williams killed himself.

I'm following a funny thread at work. My boss is an idiot. But this might be even funnier.

@hackeyman also, this is the first time anyone has called me a genius since my mother did at age 2, so it doesn't inflate my ego at all, no. lol

 

[Hire Sather]

Messier has refused to coach in any capacity at a lower level. If he's not willing to work, I'm not sure he's the one to tell others to.

 

[romba]

"He" (Zibanejad) and "physically" used in the same sentence...

Well that's cute.

He’s done it before in that situation, believe it or not….

 

[stratguy13]

Messier has a huge ego and is not of this time. He doesn't have experience in modern hockey. He wouldn't settle for anything less than POHO with full autonomy. It's a dangerous cocktail.

Hank having a front office role, I would absolutely be on board with.

You are clueless. The guy won 6 cups. How come Sakic and Yzerman were able to do it. You probably never even saw the guy play in his day. They won that cup because of him. He is on a pre game and post game show. He knows the game and what type players you need.It's mind numbing how you guys think he has no business being a GM.

 

[Profet]

You are clueless. The guy won 6 cups. How come Sakic and Yzerman were able to do it. You probably never even saw the guy play in his day. They won that cup because of him. He is on a pre game and post game show. He knows the game and what type players you need.It's mind numbing how you guys think he has no business being a GM.

Then let him take the AGM role as GM of Hartford and see how he does.

I have no interest in moving him directly to king of the castle without some previous on the job experience.

We aren't the Islanders.

 

[Machinehead]

You are clueless. The guy won 6 cups. How come Sakic and Yzerman were able to do it. You probably never even saw the guy play in his day. They won that cup because of him. He is on a pre game and post game show. He knows the game and what type players you need.It's mind numbing how you guys think he has no business being a GM.

Yzerman and Sakic both served as advisors to gain experience before taking over teams, which Messier would do if he were serious about it.

He wants the job title without the work.

 

[Captain Lindy]

You have no idea how much I would love to tell him to go get some experience.

Being a captain is not being an executive. If he wants to be an executive, he has to go be an executive.

Patrick Roy is a fiery competitor and multi-time champion. He had to pay his dues at a lower level and then pay his dues again before coming back.

I don't care what he did as captain, Messier wanting to be named president for existing is lazy.

He was a lot more than just a "captain." He brought this perpetually loser franchise a championship. The words alone cannot convey how BIG that win was. It was a miracle and it would not have happened without him.

 

[Profet]

He was a lot more than just a "captain." He brought this perpetually loser franchise a championship. The words alone cannot convey how BIG that win was. It was a miracle and it would not have happened without him.

Huh?

Why are we assuming these skills are transferable?

Would we want Neil Smith lacing them up for us with a 'C' on his chest because he helped build that team?

 

[Machinehead]

He was a lot more than just a "captain." He brought this perpetually loser franchise a championship. The words alone cannot convey how BIG that win was. It was a miracle and it would not have happened without him.

Yes. As a player.

Who's idea do you guys think it was to trade Amonte, Gartner, and Weight for old guys, many of whom played with Messier?

As a player, he's a Hall of Famer. As a captain, he wasn't afraid to get guys going. As an executive, you have to be good at team building. We've already seen that his idea of team building is grinders and giving his friends jobs.

 

[mike14]

You are clueless. The guy won 6 cups. How come Sakic and Yzerman were able to do it. You probably never even saw the guy play in his day. They won that cup because of him. He is on a pre game and post game show. He knows the game and what type players you need.It's mind numbing how you guys think he has no business being a GM.

Sakic and Yzerman had both won cups in the last few years before they retired. Sakic and Yzerman both took assistant positions within organizations immediately after retiring to continue learning and develop management/executive skills.

Messier last won a cup in '94. Messier last played a playoff game in '97. Messier on retirement did not take up a position within an organization and has not been involved in hockey in a meaningful way for the past 20 years (and if you asked Vancouver fans, a lot longer than that...).

All great players, but they went about their post-playing careers in very different ways

 

[Hire Sather]

Sakic and Yzerman had both won cups in the last few years before they retired. Sakic and Yzerman both took assistant positions within organizations immediately after retiring to continue learning and develop management/executive skills.

Messier last won a cup in '94. Messier last played a playoff game in '97. Messier on retirement did not take up a position within an organization and has not been involved in hockey in a meaningful way for the past 20 years (and if you asked Vancouver fans, a lot longer than that...).

All great players, but they went about their post-playing careers in very different ways

But he's on TNT

 

[hackeyman]

I'm following a funny thread at work. My boss is an idiot. But this might be even funnier.

@hackeyman also, this is the first time anyone has called me a genius since my mother did at age 2, so it doesn't inflate my ego at all, no. lol

Reading through this thread I've experienced every emotion under the sun so laughing is all I've got left.

 

[mike14]

But he's on TNT

I said 'meaningful' for a reason!

 

[Profet]

Reading through this thread I've experienced every emotion under the sun so laughing is all I've got left.

On a positive note... at least no Rangers were "granted leaves" the past two days.

 

[hardnosed]

BTW, did Gus lose his spot on PP2? Last few times I thought I saw Trouba out there. However, PP1 stayed out almost the whole 2 minutes so it could be a case of them just going with Trouba/Miller because the power play was ending shortly.

 

[majordomo]

You are clueless. The guy won 6 cups. How come Sakic and Yzerman were able to do it. You probably never even saw the guy play in his day. They won that cup because of him. He is on a pre game and post game show. He knows the game and what type players you need.It's mind numbing how you guys think he has no business being a GM.

Being a great player on the ice does not always translate to being great (or even good) behind the bench or in the front office.....and, as someone stated above, if you're not willing to put in the work to learn your craft, what good are you? From what I've seen, Messier wants to start at the top without any of the "grunt" work. That's a recipe for disaster.

 

[will1066]

On a positive note... at least no Rangers were "granted leaves" the past two days.

The team isn't the only one dealing with this. On the broadcast, they mentioned Carter Hart leaving the Flyers indefinitely for personal reasons.

Edit: Ok, now that I dug a little more into it, it's not good.

 

[majordomo]

On a positive note... at least no Rangers were "granted leaves" the past two days.

Shhhhhh......don't give them any ideas!!!!!!