But what's the point of losing him for nothing. We can easily sign older vets who the players can learn from. I think Fast can get a solid return and I just don't see any justification for keeping him on this team. He will be older and overpaid by the time we compete. If the only reason for keeping him is to have the kids learn from a good soldier, then we should surely jettison him ASAP.
Fast isn't Kreider or Hayes nor does he have much value. If it came to that, do you really mind losing a guy who really doesn't hold much value? Let's say he is here until he is 30, does losing a 4th rd or later pick we might recoup for him, really matter all that much? Or you trade him then and see what you can get. It likely will be a very marginal return.
I guess maybe I was thinking a bit longer term on this one. I don't think there's any need to trade him now unless someone throws out a ridiculous offer like a 1st or 2nd rounder. Still I don't see him having a future with this team once he finds his footing. Shesty will be here soon and the whole Russia thing and players not coming over is severely overblown. I think outside of he and Shesty, and maybe the guy they took last draft our goal tending prospects are meh.
Goalies for some reason almost never have the value that positional players have, outside of the really good ones. See Raanta and Talbot for us. Most of us felt they would get higher returns. Georgiev is likely along the lines of them, likely less valuable due to less experience. Shesty may be here next season, maybe he spends a season in the AHL and comes in to split time with Hank in Hanks last season? I don't know how they will work that. I think Georgiev will be here this season and next.
So what is the price on Andersson? I mean there's the old adage if Gretzky can be traded so can anyone, but do you really see someone offering a package for Lias that would make you feel comfortable moving him? I don't.
I tend to agree with you here or the Rangers add Andersson to a package to attract a bigger fish. Maybe he becomes a piece to get a true top 2 or top 4 defender? I'd guess that Andersson holds at least similar value to Puljujarvi and I think Lias is the better, more complete player at this point. Just because I would trade him in the right deal does not mean I want to trade him. I'm not sure he is better than Howden right now, who I think will be a high end third line C at least and maybe a 2C....maybe. Andersson hasn't been given much of an opportunity but then he also hasn't shown much either in the AHL or with the Rangers.
I agree Shatty should be moved, but I also feel ADA and Pionk are redundant. ADA is far better already, he's younger and he has much more potential than Pionk. I guess if we didn't have ADA I might be more receptive to keeping him, but if they get an offer of anything more than a 3rd (E.G. 2nd+) they should move him. I'm probably lower than him on most around here, but I just don't see him being a good player down the line for us. I hope I'm wrong if we choose to keep him, but I think he's just been put in a perfect position this year to up his value. Seems to me to be more like a Raphael Diaz on steroids.
The reason I would tend to be inclined to hold on to both ADA and Pionk is that they likely don't hold tremendous value in trade and they are young enough and with enough experience to play for us until the next crop of guys are ready. They are young enough to be included in that, both are 23, I think their value increases from here. Somebody has to play D for this team for the time being.
