Winnipeg Jets' new recovery method gives team competitive advantage,

[Zippity]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-new-recovery-method-1.3515214

The Winnipeg Jets are trying out new recovery method that's giving the team a competitive advantage, the team's fitness director says.

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[Zippity]

And it's also time to sit around a circle and sing kumbaya

 

[CorgisPer60]

>Competitive advantage
>26th in the league

Yup. Some good advantage right there.

 

[SCP Guy]

Crap if it wasn't for this great competitive advantage we would get 1 st overall pick for sure....hope your proud of yourself fitness director :S

 

[JetsFan815]

I saw another article saying basically this a few more things a couple of days ago http://www.tsn.ca/jets-closely-monitoring-players-rest-and-recovery-1.461105 and rolled my eyes hard at it. Instead of spending, time, money and resources on this all this unproven, pseudo-science, snake-oil sounding crap the Jets would be better off hiring 2 statisticians to manage analytics for them

 

[SCP Guy]

I saw another article saying basically this a few more things a couple of days ago http://www.tsn.ca/jets-closely-monitoring-players-rest-and-recovery-1.461105 and rolled my eyes hard at it. Instead of spending, time, money and resources on this all this unproven, pseudo-science, snake-oil sounding crap the Jets would be better off hiring 2 statisticians to manage analytics for them

I know a guy....his name rymes with ferret

 

[pucka lucka]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-new-recovery-method-1.3515214

The Winnipeg Jets are trying out new recovery method that's giving the team a competitive advantage, the team's fitness director says.

This is embarrassing for our org. If it's legit, then everyone has access to it. Did Wakefield pivot?

 

[Hunter368]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-jets-new-recovery-method-1.3515214

The Winnipeg Jets are trying out new recovery method that's giving the team a competitive advantage, the team's fitness director says.

Not yet its not, look at the standings we suck.

 

[Sixty Minute Man]

I think it's great that the team invests in this sort of thing. I think it could add up to give them a slight edge if they'd fix the other obvious flaws; the ones that have a significant effect on team success. It seems that they are oblivious to the actual things that are holding the team down.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I mean, I get the value of recovery methods and tailoring details to each player's unique needs, but all I can do is snort in derision because of where they are in the standings. You think that other teams aren't using biomarkers and nutritional specialists?

 

[pucka lucka]

I mean, I get the value of recovery methods and tailoring details to each player's unique needs, but all I can do is snort in derision because of where they are in the standings. You think that other teams aren't using biomarkers and nutritional specialists?

I'd love to hear the science behind this. I am betting it's dubious or non-existent. If they can't measure the results of whatever the **** they are doing, it's ********

 

[blues10]

I like this idea. I know people are pretty skeptical but this is a huge step in the right direction. It had been discussed here before that the Jets were really fatigued entering last seasons playoffs and this seems like a great way to get even the smallest edge or make up the gap after a tedious run to make the playoffs.

I believe it has been mentioned that players are more fatigued in game 82 than game 1. I believe someone had a measure for this using a players speed.

As Dr. Slaunwhite is a former track and field athlete and college basketball player using training methods such as biometrics which are more common in individual events into team sports makes complete sense.

I would go as far as saying that Buff's improved fitness levels and play coincides with the time Dr. Slaunwhite was hired.

I really like this approach. Gone are the days when Gretzky and the boys would dine at McDonalds.

 

[Jeti]

Just because you're last (well, almost last) doesn't mean you stop trying. Depending on how they track this stuff, it likely needs some data collection and/or trial-and-error to really get it figured out. This could pay off later.

It's great to see the team investing in this. Good organizations go the extra mile. I have no doubt many top teams do something similar. I also have no doubt that many organizations wouldn't.

 

[Zippity]

I'd love to hear the science behind this. I am betting it's dubious or non-existent. If they can't measure the results of whatever the **** they are doing, it's ********

He's a chiropractor

 

[pucka lucka]

He's a chiropractor

hah, well there you go. are you serious? that's so funny.

 

[Zippity]

hah, well there you go. are you serious? that's so funny.

Dr. Slaunwhite joined the Panthers after receiving his Doctor of Chiropractic from the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College in June 2009. He earned a Bachelor of Science in Kinesiology from Dalhousie University in 2003. In between all of this, he took up the challenge of being a personal trainer for elite athletes in the Toronto area. Having already worked with NHL and AHL players, he easily transitioned to the Panthers.


Looks like Panthers are doing a lot better without him

 

[CorgisPer60]

Because the difference for the Panthers is one director of fitness, not their depth, their drafting, their goaltending, their coaching, or Jagr.

>_>

 

[pucka lucka]

Dr. Slaunwhite joined the Panthers after receiving his Doctor of Chiropractic from the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College in June 2009. He earned a Bachelor of Science in Kinesiology from Dalhousie University in 2003. In between all of this, he took up the challenge of being a personal trainer for elite athletes in the Toronto area. Having already worked with NHL and AHL players, he easily transitioned to the Panthers.


Looks like Panthers are doing a lot better without him

So he's got a Doctorate in Woo, does he have any advanced degrees in Homeopathy? So he's literally a personal trainer. Yeah, sounds legit.

 

[blues10]

After looking around for a few minutes it seems the Jets would be behind the curve if they were not doing this. Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Pirates, German National Soccer team, Toronto FC, Toronto Raptors including most if not all NBA teams to some degree. Basically analytics of the individual athletes body. Good to be at the front of the line rather than at the back. Jets will be able to gather great data on their athletes.

The NBA

Included as part of the team's training staff, individual player health data is gathered via medical testing, and non-invasive body patch sensors (measuring heart rate) to build a database that could be reviewed then prescriptive solutions are given for each player to allow them optimal rest and movement training. Algorithms could be generated from each players' health data to provide the best pre-emptive treatment profiles. To prevent injuries from being aggravated, avoid burn out due to exhaustion, improve nutrition regimens, and let players play their best.

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/682133686/sports-biometrics-makes-waves-in-the-nba

Some more info.

Professional and college teams across the U.S. and around the world, including the World Cup winning German soccer team, the Pittsburgh Pirates and dozens of others, are using biometric tracking devices. It goes beyond the "Moneyball" obsession with complex sports analytics to "bio sports stats" that give managers and athletes more insight than ever into performance.

http://www.theatlantic.com/sponsore...e-worlds-most-valuable-human-real-estate/166/

 

[CorgisPer60]

Yup. It's not exactly a competitive advantage if other teams and leagues are doing it. I mean, good for the Jets to be with the curve instead of behind it, but this is hardly the only place they can improve their team.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

I saw another article saying basically this a few more things a couple of days ago http://www.tsn.ca/jets-closely-monitoring-players-rest-and-recovery-1.461105 and rolled my eyes hard at it. Instead of spending, time, money and resources on this all this unproven, pseudo-science, snake-oil sounding crap the Jets would be better off hiring 2 statisticians to manage analytics for them

The bigger question I have is what competitive advantage they hope to gain from this. Anthony Peluso with optimal hormonal levels is still Anthony Peluso. Pro sports teams gain the greatest competitive advantage with management/hockey ops that understand player value better than other teams.

Don't know that it's pseudo-science, or at least I don't think you can tell it is from the articles. It's not like they're measuring biorhythyms or other quack stuff like that; cortisol and testosterone are real hormones that produce real physiological effects.

I think you and I are basically saying the same thing.

 

[AlphaLackey]

If you told me me as a child in the 80s that 35 years later, my favorite hockey team would be bragging about, basically, bringing biorhythms back into prominence, I'd have et my hat.

Heck, while we're at it, phrenological examinations for everyone!

 

[allan5oh]

Weren't the Russians doing this kind of stuff in the 70s?

 

[winnipegger]

If they are measuring eyelash length, that really has very little to do with hockey.

 

[White Out 403*]

Sounds like the kind of bull**** hocus pocus our fearless ditherer in chief would fall for. Predictably hilarious. Is there any kind of science to support this, in any way shape or form?