Windsor Spitfires 2021 Offseason Thread (Part 2)

[RayzorIsDull]

Who doesn’t want to come here? Where’s examples of that? When was the last first rounder they drafted who didn’t sign and report? Don’t use Americans as an example, every team struggles to recruit them. Any player in Ontario who has aspirations of the OHL would play in Windsor

I understand what you're saying but american players were an integral part of Windsor winning their 2 OHL titles and Memorial Cup in 09/10. Austin Watson was a highly skilled power forward that decided against Maine, committed at 16 and did well in his rookie year. They leveraged his talent and development into acquiring Kassian. They selected Andrew Yogan back in 07 but they were able to make a deal for Brandon Maxwell later using him as a key piece in acquiring Shutron/Timmins/Unice. Drafting Fowler and having the luxury to wait on him and helping them win a 2010 OHL title. Windsor has always had a built in advantage being one of the two closest teams to the american border Niagara being the other one. If you can drive 40 minutes across the border to see some of the best talent in a given year (better than Sun County/Jr Spitfires). You should continue to pound that area. Currently they have 3 americans on the roster but as of now they aren't at the levels of what Windsor was getting when they were winning titles.

 

[OHLTG]

As far as who plays on what line - the kids will dictate that. This is a new situation for everyone and a new era for the roster. If Abraham or Johnston show they can play top minutes and produce, there's no reason to hold them back.

 

[windsor7]

As far as who plays on what line - the kids will dictate that. This is a new situation for everyone and a new era for the roster. If Abraham or Johnston show they can play top minutes and produce, there's no reason to hold them back.

Different coaching style hopefully..

 

[Leviathan899]

I understand what you're saying but american players were an integral part of Windsor winning their 2 OHL titles and Memorial Cup in 09/10. Austin Watson was a highly skilled power forward that decided against Maine, committed at 16 and did well in his rookie year. They leveraged his talent and development into acquiring Kassian. They selected Andrew Yogan back in 07 but they were able to make a deal for Brandon Maxwell later using him as a key piece in acquiring Shutron/Timmins/Unice. Drafting Fowler and having the luxury to wait on him and helping them win a 2010 OHL title. Windsor has always had a built in advantage being one of the two closest teams to the american border Niagara being the other one. If you can drive 40 minutes across the border to see some of the best talent in a given year (better than Sun County/Jr Spitfires). You should continue to pound that area. Currently they have 3 americans on the roster but as of now they aren't at the levels of what Windsor was getting when they were winning titles.

Agreed, can never stop and give up on scouting and working to recruit Americans, any good team will need to have some. I think a lot of it lately is how well the USHL has come along, making it a very attractive option for American kids who don’t make the NTDP but have NCAA aspirations. It’s a very good league, doesn’t have the high end talent the OHL can boast most years but it’s still a very good league and their teams do a good job of selling their programs. Without crunching the numbers I’d imagine most teams in the league have gotten less and less Americans to sign, even London. Getting Gavin McCarthy to leave BU and commit here in the next year or two would be huge for the back end. Same with Augustine

 

[Cherrydon]

Campbell being traded didn't help Windsor reputation with the American kids. I realize he struggled and it was within the rules, but Campbell wouldn't have come if he thought he would be dealt. He committed solely on the Spits success at that time.

 

[FiveHoleo]

Very valid points regarding the American players, it's a valuable resource if you're able to exploit it. Abraham is from Livonia, and Medina is from Detroit. There could be more but I think the pandemic probably made it more difficult to do that work. You can scout on youtube and facetime a prospect online, but it's not the same as fist bumping in person and taking him down to woodward to pick up some girls.

Its not fair to compare the current situation to 2010 in regards to Americans because we were apparently recruiting illegally back then anyway. With the rules on compensation for drafted players who don't report changing, you don't get so many good ones slipping to the later rounds. Now if you want to take a flyer on an American kid you have to do it pretty early, so you really have to weigh if the risk is worth losing a draft pick who otherwise should be part of your roster.

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

Maybe he’s a season tickets holder? Friendly person? You think you’re wise and clever Windsor7, but it’s time you’re called out and put in your place. I’ve been lurking and posting on these threads for years now, and you’ve never once said anything positive or even constructive about the team, base negative remarks only that sound as if you wouldn’t know a good hockey player even if Wayne Gretzky was your father. At least HL has a good understanding of the game, and is optimistic because at the end of the day, it’s junior hockey and it isn’t like you’re being asked to support it. Criticism is more than welcome and fine, every team deserves to be held accountable, but that’s not what you do. Engage in some actual discussion and not pot shots and maybe you’ll be worthy of taking into consideration. Every team in the league save a few is always battling a rebuild considering the turnover, and frankly 3 Mem cups in an 11 year span is fantastic, regardless of the circumstances or what’s happened between. A lot of teams haven’t even been to the OHL finals in 11 years let alone have a chance at winning Mem cups.

This might be the best post I have ever read on here!

 

[Shortstop]

Robinson is terrible. Not a fan of Henault either.
To his defence we haven’t seen him play in a while either. I sure hope he improved from 3 years ago

if Robinson is so terrible, why is he at an NHL camp. I’ve heard he’s gotten bigger and stronger and sounds like he’s ready for a big year.

 

[2023]

if Robinson is so terrible, why is he at an NHL camp. I’ve heard he’s gotten bigger and stronger and sounds like he’s ready for a big year.

Terrible. Watch him play. Hope he gets better

 

[windsor7]

if Robinson is so terrible, why is he at an NHL camp. I’ve heard he’s gotten bigger and stronger and sounds like he’s ready for a big year.

I hope the time not playing has fixed the stuggles n attitude. He be a asset for Windsor.

 

[2023]

if Robinson is so terrible, why is he at an NHL camp. I’ve heard he’s gotten bigger and stronger and sounds like he’s ready for a big year.

you do know that sometime nhl are just bringing in kids because they need fillers? Does that answer your question?

 

[OHLTG]

Robinson has the size and potential to do something. He's only played one full season with the Spits and he wasn't half bad. If he can become a leader on the line, the NHL isn't out of reach.

 

[nelli27]

Here's a magic trick... Toxic posts will end in 3, 2, 1....

Talk about the exciting season that awaits....

 

[OHL Fan]

Hearing rumour that Windsor making minor deal.

 

[member 71782]

Hearing rumour that Windsor making minor deal.

Any details that can be shared? Player in, player out, depth players being swapped?

 

[hockeylegend11]

Any details that can be shared? Player in, player out, depth players being swapped?

I could see a Center being added
As for being moved perhaps Jodoin from the D only speculating, maybe Tovell has been moved again guessing.
My thinking at least at this time is Birkett isn't quite ready for full time duty upfront,doesn't play Center so an acquisition there makes sense.

 

[OHL Fan]

Hearing its relating to unsigned player.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Hearing its relating to unsigned player.

Perhaps Coulson Pire or Josh Beiles both 17 year old centermen

 

[HockeyPops]

Or is it another team's unsigned player? Like the Afanasyev deal?

 

[HockeyPops]

Maybe Fantilli...

 

[OHL Fan]

Perhaps Coulson Pire or Josh Beiles both 17 year old centermen[/QUOTE

 

[windsor7]

Maybe Fantilli...

Would be nice.

 

[EON]

Here's a magic trick... Toxic posts will end in 3, 2, 1....

Talk about the exciting season that awaits....

Seconding this.

It was less than two weeks ago that I said this: Windsor Spitfires 2021 Offseason Thread (Part 2)

And things have already gone off the rails. If posters continue to attack other posters instead of discussing hockey, it is going to result in thread bans.

 

[OHLTG]

Pitre to Flint for 15th in 2023 and cond. 6th in 2023. Per Spitfires Twitter.

 

[KyGuy9]

Coulson Pitre to Flint for a 15th round pick and conditional 6th