Windsor Spitfires 2019-20 Season Thread (Part 7)

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Great watch. I’ve believed for some time this city produces coaches because of the work ethic in the city!! if you include coaches at other levels there’s significantly more!!

Agree and more. There's always been expectations on players at every level, at least in the past and that used to carry over to expectations the fans put on this team.

For anyone who grew up in the 70s playing travel hockey they would remember that there were hard boundaries from which teams could draw from and all the local organizations were very protective of their territories. For someone like Quenneville who grew up playing AA Riverside on a team with less talent to draw from the expectations were just as high. When he got to the O, played for an expansion Spitfires team expectations were still there.

Those same local players and parents always carried those expectations over the Spits back in the day whether it was the early days when they struggled or when they started to find success fans knew the game and expected players to be able to play the game regardless of their skill level. Mediocrity was not acceptable, you were expected to play every game to win.

Players that came from out of town billeted with everyday families, people that worked in local factories and were spread out across the city instead of bunched up in one area all going to the same school. They lived and went to school within the city and amongst the core fanbase. The dealt with expectations everyday.

When players had struggles off the ice they were dealt with before they became an issue and not just through discipline but through support both from the team and the community. If players had issues at home then the team would make sure they could accommodate them during the offseason including finding them a place to live, people they could go to and finding them work over the summer.

It's the work ethic of this city along with the expectations that fans placed on the players who either came here to play or who grew up playing here. You were expected to be able to play and regardless of your talent level you had to find a way to contribute to the game and know how to make the most of what you brought to the game.

So many former players at the NHL level as well as other levels and it goes beyond coaching into scouting and other positions within management and there's likely to be more to come. Some like Wellwood are already on their way and some still playing who have the ability to reach that point in the future.
 

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There are a few current Spitfires that I could see behind the bench at some point down the road, such as Boka, Stevenson, Ladd, Corcoran, and Playfair. It's not a matter of talent but how they think the game.
 

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There are a few current Spitfires that I could see behind the bench at some point down the road, such as Boka, Stevenson, Ladd, Corcoran, and Playfair. It's not a matter of talent but how they think the game.

Lets actually get someone who knows what they are doing behind the bench before doing favors for very present windsor players.
 
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OHLTG/ Windsor7 - you are both wrong - there is no way you could make that judgment call about Junior Hockey players. There is no way at all to make an accurate call on how or if these players will be coaches 20 years from now. We don't even now how good they will play in the next game much less predict their coaching future????
 

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OHLTG/ Windsor7 - you are both wrong - there is no way you could make that judgment call about Junior Hockey players. There is no way at all to make an accurate call on how or if these players will be coaches 20 years from now. We don't even now how good they will play in the next game much less predict their coaching future????

There have been multiple players over the years that we've thought would make good coaches. Some did (McFarland and Wellwood for example), while others didn't get there. I don't think it's unfair to think these guys could be in that kind of role well down the road.
 

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There have been multiple players over the years that we've thought would make good coaches. Some did (McFarland and Wellwood for example), while others didn't get there. I don't think it's unfair to think these guys could be in that kind of role well down the road.

I just dont see it.
No fascination about any of these players.
Id agree with outsider to wait 20 or more years n maybe bring up conversation then.
 

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OHLTG/ Windsor7 - you are both wrong - there is no way you could make that judgment call about Junior Hockey players. There is no way at all to make an accurate call on how or if these players will be coaches 20 years from now. We don't even now how good they will play in the next game much less predict their coaching future????

100% agreed. Most are far from being mature players yet so to be considered mature enough to predict their ability to coach in the future is really stretching things.

With this the group the last couple of years the on ice leadership has been called into question many times which only demonstrates the lack of maturity. It's something that they'll grow into over the coming years as they grow as people as well as hockey players. There's plenty of time for them to learn but there is no way to predict who will follow that path and then follow it successfully.

Let's worry about them as hockey players for now, plenty of discussion to be had surrounding that for now.
 

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Windsor Spitfires: 5 Things to Look Out For
DAVE JEWELL FEBRUARY 26TH, 2020

It feels like just last week that 2019-20 OHL camps were opening up. The season has quickly flown by and, with a month to go, the Windsor Spitfires find themselves in the middle of a battle for home ice in the Western Conference. Entering the final stretch, several stories are worth keeping our eyes on.

Last season at this time, getting into the playoffs was the Spitfires’ biggest goal. They were rebuilding following the 2017 Memorial Cup and the young roster was eager to show their stuff. Fast forward to now and they’ve entered a lengthy battle where nothing will come easy. That’s part of the fun, though. As they continue, several mini-stories are unfolding that make this journey even more interesting.
Let’s take a look at those five stories and how they affect the playoff push.
Playoff Stretch Stories

5. Youth Playing Time

When you’re in a playoff battle, the natural instinct is to play the veterans who know the league. The experience will take control. Is it the best option, though? Not necessarily.
In February, NHL Central Scouting came out with their “Watch List” for the 2020 NHL Draft in Montreal and six Spitfires were on there. Forwards Will Cuylle, Jean-Luc Foudy, and Kyle McDonald made it, as well as defencemen Ruben Rafkin, Louka Henault, and Dylan Robinson. Being on the list is a big deal, as is having six guys involved. It’s how you handle the situation that truly counts, though.
Windsor-Spitfires-Cuylle-546x480.jpg

Will Cuylle (13) is ready for the 2020 NHL Draft in June. (Dave Jewell/THW)
You want your veterans to lead the way, but you also want your youngsters to show what they’re capable of, sink or swim. It’s a development league, after all. Players sign on with hopes of elevating their game to the point where they can move up. It’s tough when you’re not getting the proper chances.
The same goes for the team’s rookies — Wyatt Johnston, Pasquale Zito, Xavier Medina, Rafkin, and Robinson. The Spitfires aren’t expecting to compete for any titles this season. Instead, they’re targeting 2020-21 and beyond. How do you develop them? By putting them in the best position to succeed and that’s not in the press box.
Windsor-Spitfires-Ruben-Rafkin-575x430.jpg

Windsor Spitfires’ defenceman Ruben Rafkin is among the league’s rookie scoring leaders. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Giving the draft prospects and rookies proper ice time will only help the team in seasons to come. That’s how Dallas Stars’ prospect Curtis Douglas and Vegas Golden Knights’ prospect Connor Corcoran got to this point. The veterans lead by example but the youth get the playing time they need.
Getting home ice is important but so is the development of your youth.
4. Help from Rivals

The Western Conference has become notorious for bringing the “every point counts” cliche to a startling reality. With just three points separating the first seed from fourth and two points separating fifth and sixth, nobody can really afford to take a period off. It’s scary but it’s the harsh truth.
The simple answer would be to just focus on your own games. The Spitfires could win out, finish with 91 points, and see where the chips fall. However, that’s not realistic.
With the Saginaw Spirit, Flint Firebirds, London Knights, and Kitchener Rangers all adding at the trade deadline in January, teams are finding their stride. Add in the Guelph Storm nipping at the Spitfires’ heels and you’ve got no choice but to watch your competition.

Coming into this weekend, the Spitfires are the only club who has won fewer than five of their last 10. It’s a troubling trend and one that can’t continue. With a nine-season streak of not making the second round of the playoffs, getting home ice is a must.
General manager Bill Bowler opted to not make any moves at the deadline. So far, it’s being questioned and rightfully so. It’s difficult for fans to watch a team near the top of the standings sit idle while their rivals add valuable pieces.
Point blank — the Spitfires need to turn this around and will need some help from the competition if they want to make history.
3. Staying Fresh with Busy Schedule

The story all season has been the Spitfires playing the fewest games in the OHL. While they’ve taken advantage of it, life from here-on-out is chaotic and rest will be at a premium.
The Spitfires are tackling a crazy stretch of seven games in 11 days. Plus, every weekend until the playoffs has three games. It’s a challenge but one that’s been known about since late June. No excuses, just tackle it.
This is where the veterans, coaches, and depth come into play. The veterans have done this song-and-dance before and they’ll need to show the youngsters the proper ways, both on-and-off the ice.
Spitfires-Trevor-Letowski-575x335.jpg

Windsor Spitfires’ head coach Trevor Letowski. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Letowski and his staff put together the best overall plans to ensure proper rest, nutrition, and game-utilization. Plus, they’ve corrected depth issues from the past. Having healthy scratches can be a good thing if they’re managed properly. That means sitting the ones you need to, regardless of whether they’re a veteran or not.
The goal this season was to build on the success and development of 2018-19. While they’ve done an admirable job so far, this stretch will show what they’re truly made of.
2. Trevor Letowski’s Systems

Part of this entire process will be ensuring the Spitfires are competitive for 60 minutes every night. That’s not just motivation, but systems, too.
Last season, Letowski created a defence-first system that, while successful at times, lacked any finishing power. They held back, forced teams to come at them, and it cost them offensively. With this much talent on the roster, it’s tough to justify that. It created some backlash and the coaches heard loud and clear.
In September, Letowski said they had come up with new systems that were designed to create offense and properly use their team speed. It worked, as they’ve scored 16 more goals in 12 fewer games so far.
Tyler-Angle-Windsor-Spitfires-575x438.jpg

The new systems have helped Tyler Angle (center) have a career season for the Windsor Spitfires. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Unfortunately, there have been games where Letowski has resorted back to the old systems. In a game against the Knights in January, even while down two goals, the Spitfires held back and waited for the high-powered Knights to come at them. The result was a 6-3 loss on national TV. The same thing has happened multiple times since, frustrating fans and creating plenty of head-scratching.
The Spitfires find more success when they push the play, take the body on the forecheck, and wear down their opponents. If they get away from that, all bets are off. Can Letowski stick to what works or will he resort back to old habits? Let’s hope it’s the former.
1. Blue Ice Battle — Kari Piiroinen v. Xavier Medina

It’s impossible to talk about the final playoff push without mentioning the two goaltenders — Medina and Kari Piiroinen.
Piiroinen came to the club in the summer of 2018 from Helsinki, Finland. After the Spitfires traded Michael DiPietro to the Ottawa 67’s in Dec. 2018, Piiroinen was expected to be the future.
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Goaltender Kari Piiroinen’s play will be crucial for the Windsor Spitfires in the final month. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Enter Medina. The team’s third-round pick in 2018 played for the Oakland Jr. Grizzlies last season before signing with the Spitfires this summer. Since then, it’s become a battle between the two 18-year-old goaltenders.
By late February, it was expected that one would take over the starter’s role. However, it’s become a split job with uncertainty from game-to-game. Both have had outstanding stretches and ones you’d rather forget about. This makes life a battle of extremes for the coaches.
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Goaltender Xavier Medina is showing his worth for the Windsor Spitfires. (Dave Jewell/THW)
While Piiroinen is the veteran, it’s likely both will see ice entering the final month. Whoever performs best should get the coveted playoff crease. It’s not like the DiPietro-era where you knew the situation well beforehand, but it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. If both Piiroinen and Medina perform up to their capabilities, this could be a really good thing for the Spitfires.
The final month of the season is going to test this club more than anything has so far. These stories will go a long way in determining if the Spitfires finally see ice once the first round is done.


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Geez nelly could you clean that mess up a bit?? Pretty much sums up some of our feelings! If you read between the lines it’s pretty damning for TL!!
 
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Windsor Spitfires: 5 Things to Look Out For
DAVE JEWELL FEBRUARY 26TH, 2020

It feels like just last week that 2019-20 OHL camps were opening up. The season has quickly flown by and, with a month to go, the Windsor Spitfires find themselves in the middle of a battle for home ice in the Western Conference. Entering the final stretch, several stories are worth keeping our eyes on.

Last season at this time, getting into the playoffs was the Spitfires’ biggest goal. They were rebuilding following the 2017 Memorial Cup and the young roster was eager to show their stuff. Fast forward to now and they’ve entered a lengthy battle where nothing will come easy. That’s part of the fun, though. As they continue, several mini-stories are unfolding that make this journey even more interesting.
Let’s take a look at those five stories and how they affect the playoff push.
Playoff Stretch Stories

5. Youth Playing Time

When you’re in a playoff battle, the natural instinct is to play the veterans who know the league. The experience will take control. Is it the best option, though? Not necessarily.
In February, NHL Central Scouting came out with their “Watch List” for the 2020 NHL Draft in Montreal and six Spitfires were on there. Forwards Will Cuylle, Jean-Luc Foudy, and Kyle McDonald made it, as well as defencemen Ruben Rafkin, Louka Henault, and Dylan Robinson. Being on the list is a big deal, as is having six guys involved. It’s how you handle the situation that truly counts, though.
Windsor-Spitfires-Cuylle-546x480.jpg

Will Cuylle (13) is ready for the 2020 NHL Draft in June. (Dave Jewell/THW)
You want your veterans to lead the way, but you also want your youngsters to show what they’re capable of, sink or swim. It’s a development league, after all. Players sign on with hopes of elevating their game to the point where they can move up. It’s tough when you’re not getting the proper chances.
The same goes for the team’s rookies — Wyatt Johnston, Pasquale Zito, Xavier Medina, Rafkin, and Robinson. The Spitfires aren’t expecting to compete for any titles this season. Instead, they’re targeting 2020-21 and beyond. How do you develop them? By putting them in the best position to succeed and that’s not in the press box.
Windsor-Spitfires-Ruben-Rafkin-575x430.jpg

Windsor Spitfires’ defenceman Ruben Rafkin is among the league’s rookie scoring leaders. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Giving the draft prospects and rookies proper ice time will only help the team in seasons to come. That’s how Dallas Stars’ prospect Curtis Douglas and Vegas Golden Knights’ prospect Connor Corcoran got to this point. The veterans lead by example but the youth get the playing time they need.
Getting home ice is important but so is the development of your youth.
4. Help from Rivals

The Western Conference has become notorious for bringing the “every point counts” cliche to a startling reality. With just three points separating the first seed from fourth and two points separating fifth and sixth, nobody can really afford to take a period off. It’s scary but it’s the harsh truth.
The simple answer would be to just focus on your own games. The Spitfires could win out, finish with 91 points, and see where the chips fall. However, that’s not realistic.
With the Saginaw Spirit, Flint Firebirds, London Knights, and Kitchener Rangers all adding at the trade deadline in January, teams are finding their stride. Add in the Guelph Storm nipping at the Spitfires’ heels and you’ve got no choice but to watch your competition.

Coming into this weekend, the Spitfires are the only club who has won fewer than five of their last 10. It’s a troubling trend and one that can’t continue. With a nine-season streak of not making the second round of the playoffs, getting home ice is a must.
General manager Bill Bowler opted to not make any moves at the deadline. So far, it’s being questioned and rightfully so. It’s difficult for fans to watch a team near the top of the standings sit idle while their rivals add valuable pieces.
Point blank — the Spitfires need to turn this around and will need some help from the competition if they want to make history.
3. Staying Fresh with Busy Schedule

The story all season has been the Spitfires playing the fewest games in the OHL. While they’ve taken advantage of it, life from here-on-out is chaotic and rest will be at a premium.
The Spitfires are tackling a crazy stretch of seven games in 11 days. Plus, every weekend until the playoffs has three games. It’s a challenge but one that’s been known about since late June. No excuses, just tackle it.
This is where the veterans, coaches, and depth come into play. The veterans have done this song-and-dance before and they’ll need to show the youngsters the proper ways, both on-and-off the ice.
Spitfires-Trevor-Letowski-575x335.jpg

Windsor Spitfires’ head coach Trevor Letowski. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Letowski and his staff put together the best overall plans to ensure proper rest, nutrition, and game-utilization. Plus, they’ve corrected depth issues from the past. Having healthy scratches can be a good thing if they’re managed properly. That means sitting the ones you need to, regardless of whether they’re a veteran or not.
The goal this season was to build on the success and development of 2018-19. While they’ve done an admirable job so far, this stretch will show what they’re truly made of.
2. Trevor Letowski’s Systems

Part of this entire process will be ensuring the Spitfires are competitive for 60 minutes every night. That’s not just motivation, but systems, too.
Last season, Letowski created a defence-first system that, while successful at times, lacked any finishing power. They held back, forced teams to come at them, and it cost them offensively. With this much talent on the roster, it’s tough to justify that. It created some backlash and the coaches heard loud and clear.
In September, Letowski said they had come up with new systems that were designed to create offense and properly use their team speed. It worked, as they’ve scored 16 more goals in 12 fewer games so far.
Tyler-Angle-Windsor-Spitfires-575x438.jpg

The new systems have helped Tyler Angle (center) have a career season for the Windsor Spitfires. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Unfortunately, there have been games where Letowski has resorted back to the old systems. In a game against the Knights in January, even while down two goals, the Spitfires held back and waited for the high-powered Knights to come at them. The result was a 6-3 loss on national TV. The same thing has happened multiple times since, frustrating fans and creating plenty of head-scratching.
The Spitfires find more success when they push the play, take the body on the forecheck, and wear down their opponents. If they get away from that, all bets are off. Can Letowski stick to what works or will he resort back to old habits? Let’s hope it’s the former.
1. Blue Ice Battle — Kari Piiroinen v. Xavier Medina

It’s impossible to talk about the final playoff push without mentioning the two goaltenders — Medina and Kari Piiroinen.
Piiroinen came to the club in the summer of 2018 from Helsinki, Finland. After the Spitfires traded Michael DiPietro to the Ottawa 67’s in Dec. 2018, Piiroinen was expected to be the future.
Windsor-Spitfires-Piiroinen-575x424.jpg

Goaltender Kari Piiroinen’s play will be crucial for the Windsor Spitfires in the final month. (Dave Jewell/THW)
Enter Medina. The team’s third-round pick in 2018 played for the Oakland Jr. Grizzlies last season before signing with the Spitfires this summer. Since then, it’s become a battle between the two 18-year-old goaltenders.
By late February, it was expected that one would take over the starter’s role. However, it’s become a split job with uncertainty from game-to-game. Both have had outstanding stretches and ones you’d rather forget about. This makes life a battle of extremes for the coaches.
Xavier-Medina-Windsor-Spitfires-575x386.jpg

Goaltender Xavier Medina is showing his worth for the Windsor Spitfires. (Dave Jewell/THW)
While Piiroinen is the veteran, it’s likely both will see ice entering the final month. Whoever performs best should get the coveted playoff crease. It’s not like the DiPietro-era where you knew the situation well beforehand, but it doesn’t have to be a bad thing. If both Piiroinen and Medina perform up to their capabilities, this could be a really good thing for the Spitfires.
The final month of the season is going to test this club more than anything has so far. These stories will go a long way in determining if the Spitfires finally see ice once the first round is done.


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Looking at the remainder of games this season, only 1 game will remain with teams below 0.500 after this weekend. We have 3 games left still against Guelph and and a pair with Owen sound. These 5 games are must wins or we could easily slide to 7th. Add in games against Saginaw (2), Flint and Kitchener who are all rolling right now and it's going to be very nerve wrecking for me to say the least.
 

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Looking at the remainder of games this season, only 1 game will remain with teams below 0.500 after this weekend. We have 3 games left still against Guelph and and a pair with Owen sound. These 5 games are must wins or we could easily slide to 7th. Add in games against Saginaw (2), Flint and Kitchener who are all rolling right now and it's going to be very nerve wrecking for me to say the least.
Soo and Kingston are in a dog fight to make the playoffs and are playing desperate hockey right now. Guelph and Windsor will be playing a "4 point" game on Saturday. I don't see any easy games from now until the end of the season. Spits should make the playoffs but they need to win some games and other teams need to lose a few. Just a matter of where they will be seeded in round 1. Every game matters at this point.
 

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I just noticed that on Saturday Guelph will be playing their 3rd game in 4 nights, 2nd game of a back to back. Windsor will be playing their 2nd game in 3 nights. Is this a "fatigue" game for Guelph or a "fatigue" game for Windsor? :popcorn::popcorn:
 
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