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Ok wait, just to make sure I got this right....anyone shown on the capfriendly site (and not protected) is eligible to be picked right?
Zboril or Lauzon from Boston for example. Guys like that with a lot of upside. Instead of a Subban.
Bastian is a big, competitive winger with size and a little offense but his poor skating will likely limit him from being more than a bottom lineup part.
Being a GM means knowing every plan is fluid, but half the players in the expansion draft did contribute to Vegas’ first season. This is a good article discussing their approach.I don't think this is the right strategy. I think you want some of these guys, but I think you want to have done your homework on which guys like this are going to be available and focus in on the ones you really want. Because the truth is most guys like Lauzon and Zboril are marginal NHLers - they're both 24 and have been kicking around Boston's system for a long time. If you crowd 10 of these sorts of guys on to a roster, yeah maybe 2 or 3 make it and become average players, but the rest will become near-worthless. To me, Seattle's goal should be thinking about how to maximize return for most of the players they take. Everyone else in the league has been drafting for the last 5 years and you haven't - there's not a good way to make up that gap except by flipping expansion picks for draft picks/prospects.
I'm not sure they'll do this - obviously Vegas kinda split the difference but then it ended up that a lot of the guys they picked turned out to be great. That was not their plan. Vegas has had a great 4 years but their future looks kinda rough a few years out as their roster ages and they don't have young players to replace the guys aging out. They did the right thing by trading away Brannstrom and Suzuki, but their future strategy is to get UFAs - their prospect pool is pretty shallow and their roster doesn't have a ton of valuable guys on it outside of Tuch and Theodore.
The worst thing you can do as Seattle is get to the middle fast - then you'll likely be bottoming out in 5 years right when the players you didn't draft in the 2020 entry draft are hitting their prime,the novelty of the franchise is gone, and there's no more value in the players you selected in the expansion draft.
When did this obsession with Bastian start and why
i don't think they waste 3.4 million on an insignificant player like johnsson, who plays the easiest position to find replacement level players. ask yourself would you rather have three johnsson's or tarasenko and two bastian's.I think it's Johnsson. He's a little over priced even if he bounces back, but provides the biggest offensive upside, had shown a history of producing at an acceptable level. In theory, he'd provide the greatest versatility throughout a lineup. We've seen him play the third man on a top line in Toronto, not out of place in the middle six
i don't think they waste 3.4 million on an insignificant player like johnsson, who plays the easiest position to find replacement level players. ask yourself would you rather have three johnsson's or tarasenko and two bastian's.
they will pick bastian. similar upside. offers size. costs only a quarter of the cap.
When he blocked like 5 shots in one shift few years back in Bing. He's already a good big defensive minded fourth line grinder, and he'll probably keeps getting even better. Teams need guys like him.
Offensive upside (=point production)? Yes. Upside? I am not sure.As much as I like Bastian for what he brings to this team and as much as I find Johnsson overpriced and redundant, I do not think Bastian has similar upside at all. Bastian is more valuable to this team, because he's a physical 4th line grinder and super buddy with McLeod, than he is to really any other team. He's a very replaceable player. As is Johnsson, but with Johnsson you definitely get more versatility and higher offensive upside.
When did this obsession with Bastian start and why
He had 136 hits last year in 41 games which projects as 272 hits in a full season. He brings an element of physicality that this team currently lacks in spades. I would hate to lose him.
Bastian is also a dime a dozen player. To be honest I’d rather him be the pick so we can see if we can squeeze any value out of Johnsson and Butcher. However I don’t know why someone would take Bastian over either of those two.
I think people are ignoring the cap aspects of the expansion process. If SEA takes Tarasenko, Voracek, Eberle, and Giordano, that's 28M in cap space. Over 1/3 or the cap in 4 guys. They are *required* to take 30 guys, meaning they'd only have 53.5M to bring in an additional 26 players.
There are also guys like Zucker (5.5M) and Niederreiter (5.5M) available, and this is ignoring side deals that could see a guy like Henrique (5.1M) heading to SEA.
That's kinda the point of the ED. Teams are intentionally leaving good but overpaid players unprotected so that SEA can bail them out of bad contracts. Guys on good deals are not getting exposed.
They simply have to take some very low <1M salary guys just to make the cap work. In that context, a guy like Bastian makes a lot of sense - he's young, cheap, RFA. A guy you could plug in for a year and move on from when you have a better idea of what your team is.
I think people are ignoring the cap aspects of the expansion process. If SEA takes Tarasenko, Voracek, Eberle, and Giordano, that's 28M in cap space. Over 1/3 or the cap in 4 guys. They are *required* to take 30 guys, meaning they'd only have 53.5M to bring in an additional 26 players.
There are also guys like Zucker (5.5M) and Niederreiter (5.5M) available, and this is ignoring side deals that could see a guy like Henrique (5.1M) heading to SEA.
That's kinda the point of the ED. Teams are intentionally leaving good but overpaid players unprotected so that SEA can bail them out of bad contracts. Guys on good deals are not getting exposed.
They simply have to take some very low <1M salary guys just to make the cap work. In that context, a guy like Bastian makes a lot of sense - he's young, cheap, RFA. A guy you could plug in for a year and move on from when you have a better idea of what your team is.
still want to give them a 4th to take butcher if they aren't already inclined to.