Who is the worst GM in the Montreal Canadiens history?

[Deluded Puck]

Officially in terms of pure performance I still believe it’s Houle, but at least he was a decent enough person with a fair few mitigating circumstances, he didn’t have total power and his hands were tied financially.

Bergevin will surpass him if this carries on. Plus there’s just so much to dislike about him on a personal level.

 

[Kimota]

Congrats, you hate people for "being weird". Fans like you are the reason i'm happy Montreal hired Bergevin.

Gauthier was driving everyone nuts and it wasn't just for his personality. His moves too.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Dont worry , we will have more argument by tomorrow 10pm that Bergevin is the biggest idiot that habs ever had. i have faith

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Gauthier was driving everyone nuts and it wasn't just for his personality. His moves too.

Yeah his moves scared me, he kept bringing in guys over 6ft, it was terrifying! Thank God we got back to being soft midgets again. Oh I know Gauthier drove the media nuts and the media then whipped the dogs of the fanbase into a frenzy.

 

[Kimota]

Yeah his moves scared me, he kept bringing in guys over 6ft, it was terrifying! Thank God we got back to being soft midgets again. Oh I know Gauthier drove the media nuts and the media then whipped the dogs of the fanbase into a frenzy.

I remember when they needed grit on D and he got us Sopel. That was the type that he and Martin liked, mediocre and ballsless.

He would have loved De Larose. Players inodore, sans saveure.

We could say many things about Bergevin but he adressed the issue the moment he came in when he hired Prust. It gave the team a backbone.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

I remember when they needed grit on D and he got us Sopel. That was the type that he and Martin liked, mediocre and ballsless.

He would have loved De Larose. Players inodore, sans saveure.

We could say many things about Bergevin but he adressed the issue the moment he came in when he hired Prust. It gave the team a backbone.

Getting a punching bag didn't address anything and everyone and their mom knew that wasn't the direction the Habs should go. Getting bigger players that don't get smashed in a playoff series was the right direction, but lets have a look at our lineup today. How many times did the players complain during the shitty years of Gainey that the team was too small? Funny how that gets hushed up.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

When Gainey first came in 2003, he got us Kovalev. His draft record wasn’t perfect, I mean a lot of GMs passed on the same players. It all comes down to how lucky you are. Gainey tried to reshape the Habs in the summer of 2009, by getting Gionta, Cammalleri, Spacek, Mara, Gill. The Habs went to the EC the following season for the first time since 93. The guy lost both his wife and his daughter, he clearly didn’t have it in him anymore.

Yeah...I had no issues with Gainey, he made some mistakes, but he brought this franchise back from the brink. He made mistakes along the way, but the team was ultimately successful during his time here. And he knew when to step down.

 

[Kimota]

Getting a punching bag didn't address anything and everyone and their mom knew that wasn't the direction the Habs should go. Getting bigger players that don't get smashed in a playoff series was the right direction, but lets have a look at our lineup today. How many times did the players complain during the ****ty years of Gainey that the team was too small? Funny how that gets hushed up.

And Gauthier made us bigger? How.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

And Gauthier made us bigger? How.

He took quite an interesting and bizarre route. He acquired bigger players while getting rid of smaller ones. Hold on I know it sounds too outlandish and unbelievable but believe me, I was watching via the internet.

 

[Kimota]

He took quite an interesting and bizarre route. He acquired bigger players while getting rid of smaller ones. Hold on I know it sounds too outlandish and unbelievable but believe me, I was watching via the internet.

I'm telling you, the guy was cookoo.

 

[MD thaivuN]

He took quite an interesting and bizarre route. He acquired bigger players while getting rid of smaller ones. Hold on I know it sounds too outlandish and unbelievable but believe me, I was watching via the internet.

are you telling me Rene Bourque counts for more than one person? Because he's the only "bigger" guy who played regularly for the team.

EDIT: nvm, there's Eller too. so a grand total of 2 players.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

I'm telling you, the guy was cookoo.

Alright you should be happy we have such a cool dude like Bergevin with his plethora of suits.

 

[Not The One]

The two disastrous seasons under Bergevin have the same root cause: Carey Price/Injuries. And unfortunately, that's not something he can really fix (other than by trading him).

For fun, let's undo the the moves he made over the past two summers that everybody hates and replay the last season.

Remove: Weber, Drouin, Alzner.

Add: Subban, Radulov (signed at 8 mil), Markov (signed to a two year deal worth 11 mil or so), Sergachev.

Condition: Price is once again the worst goalie in the league, Subban breaks his foot in the first game of the season, is a shadow of himself for a few weeks and misses the rest of the year. Plekanec isn't any better, Pac and Danault still get injured.

Does this team make the playoffs?

 

[OneSharpMarble]

are you telling me Rene Bourque counts for more than one person? Because he's the only "bigger" guy who played regularly for the team.

Is Eric Cole a person? It's hard to say, being a habs fan ive forgotten what a power forward looks like, I'm use to watching dainty ballerinas.

 

[sampollock]

Never cared for Irving grudman

 

[Kimota]

Alright you should be happy we have such a cool dude like Bergevin with his plethora of suits.

Well they would make a great sitcom together, the nut and the cluts. The repressed psycho and the lazy clumsy bum.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The two disastrous seasons under Bergevin have the same root cause: Carey Price/Injuries. And unfortunately, that's not something he can really fix (other than by trading him).

For fun, let's undo the the moves he made over the past two summers that everybody hates and replay the last season.

Remove: Weber, Drouin, Alzner.

Add: Subban, Radulov (signed at 8 mil), Markov (signed to a two year deal worth 11 mil or so), Sergachev.

Condition: Price is once again the worst goalie in the league, Subban breaks his foot in the first game of the season, is a shadow of himself for a few weeks and misses the rest of the year. Plekanec isn't any better, Pac and Danault still get injured.

Does this team make the playoffs?

With Markov, Radu and Serge, they might have.

 

[calder candidate]

MB he had A lot more to work with and a lot room but still ended up painting him self into a corner. Also the change and evolution of the league when under Houle I have the impressions that it wasn’t has clear and the outcome weren’t As predictable. Also Houle step in with zero experience and little support MB had experienced and was supported by experienced ass GM

 

[Not The One]

With Markov, Radu and Serge, they might have.

Oh really? Radu might have gotten 15 points more than Drouin, maybe. Markov at 39 was clearly running out of gas, and Sergachev had a nice season but was clearly inconsistant and got to play behind the best offense in the league.

The Habs needed 26 more points to get to the playoffs. It wasn't going to happen.

I'm not sure there is one team that could overcome loosing their all-star no. 1 D-man for basically the entire season AND having their Vezina finalist goalie playing like worst goalie in the league. Last year Tampa lost Stamkos and didn't make the playoffs, this year their were the best in the east. Maybe Nasville could do it with their defensive depth, but even then it's not guaranteed.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

It's days like these that I truly wonder if Mcguire could have done worse, like he would have had to actively try to be bad. I mean at least he would have been entertaining.

 

[Compile]

Looks like another season to boycott is in order.

If MB is still here this team is going nowhere fast. He's literally the worst GM in Habs history and possibly the league. Analysts don't even have words to describe his rationale behind ANY of his deals, the just make no sense and do NO improve this team.


He tooks a SC contending team and turned it into this shit. I wouldn't be surprised if Price is the next one to go so this team is truly "his", f***ing crack pot jackass he is.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Oh really? Radu might have gotten 15 points more than Drouin, maybe. Markov at 39 was clearly running out of gas, and Sergachev had a nice season but was clearly inconsistant and got to play behind the best offense in the league.

The Habs needed 26 more points to get to the playoffs. It wasn't going to happen.

I'm not sure there is one team that could overcome loosing their all-star no. 1 D-man for basically the entire season AND having their Vezina finalist goalie playing like worst goalie in the league. Last year Tampa lost Stamkos and didn't make the playoffs, this year their were the best in the east. Maybe Nasville could do it with their defensive depth, but even then it's not guaranteed.

I don't think there's any point discussing this with you if you believe the difference between Radu and Drouin is solely 15 points AND if you believe adding two pmds on the left side wouldn't change much to how the team played, which was as much a problem (our left side D and lack of pm skill) as our center line.

The way Price played was compounded by the sorrowful defense and lack of puck moving skill in front of him. This snowballed into a total team meltdown. With Markov and Sergachev, that snowball effect might not have happened.

Oh yeah, and having Eller would've helped too, as your initial post said to remove Berdbraingevin's bad moves of the last two years.

Notice also that I said might. They definitely would've had a better fighting chance.

 

[Saint Patrick]

Looks like another season to boycott is in order.

If MB is still here this team is going nowhere fast. He's literally the worst GM in Habs history and possibly the league. Analysts don't even have words to describe his rationale behind ANY of his deals, the just make no sense and do NO improve this team.


He tooks a SC contending team and turned it into this ****. I wouldn't be surprised if Price is the next one to go so this team is truly "his", ****ing crack pot jackass he is.

There hasnt been one source, french, english..none that have not poked fun at him in some way. No one is capable of defending him anymore. I havent seen this much universal mockery in a long time.

 

[Not The One]

I don't think there's any point discussing this with you if you believe the difference between Radu and Drouin is solely 15 points AND if you believe adding two pmds on the left side wouldn't change much to how the team played, which was as much a problem (our left side D and lack of pm skill) as our center line.

The way Price played was compounded by the sorrowful defense and lack of puck moving skill in front of him. This snowballed into a total team meltdown. With Markov and Sergachev, that snowball effect might not have happened.

Oh yeah, and having Eller would've helped too, as your initial post said to remove Berdbraingevin's bad moves of the last two years.

Notice also that I said might. They definitely would've had a better fighting chance.

Strangely enough, Radulov's new team didn't make the playoffs either with better forwards, a PMD and better goalies...

As for Eller, LOL.

 

[PaulD]

Gainey is awful, but for reasons that are obvious, he gets a pass on HF.

Drafted Price, Subban, Patches, Halak

that alone puts Gainey light years ahead of Bonehead Bergevin