Who has more value: Dougie Hamilton, or Mitch Marner?

[La Bamba]

I think Boston would've demanded an arm and a leg from the Leafs, being in the same division and all.

Burke just should've never traded that pick to begin with.

Edit: Whoops, you're an Edmonton fan. Yeah, you guys could've easily beaten Calgary's offer if you tried.

There was definitely a grudge against Chiarelli I think. Apparently the Bruins wanted a totally different package from the Oilers according to Chia.

The world would be a much better place had the Oilers gotten Hamilton instead of Reinhart...

 

[Cleatus]

There was definitely a grudge against Chiarelli I think. Apparently the Bruins wanted a totally different package from the Oilers according to Chia.

The world would be a much better place had the Oilers gotten Hamilton instead of Reinhart...

Ah yes, forgot Chia was on Edmonton at that point. In that case, Boston's front office probably didn't think of Edmonton much differently than a divisional rival like Toronto, and likely even enjoyed spiting Chia like that by trading Dougie to Calgary.

Imagine if the Oilers just kept that 1st rounder they traded for Reinhart...

 

[VainGretzky]

In the entire history of the Calgary Flames, they have never had a teenager do what Marner did last year.

He obviously does not watch him , he ripped the OHL like Mcdavid did has elite skill level and his ceiling is higher then Gaudreau who took 5 years past draft to establish himself as a NHL player. I stated before Draft that Marner will be 2nd best producer from 15 draft and his peak years will be better than Eichel and I still stand by this.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

He obviously does not watch him , he ripped the OHL like Mcdavid did has elite skill level and his ceiling is higher then Gaudreau who took 5 years past draft to establish himself as a NHL player. I stated before Draft that Marner will be 2nd best producer from 15 draft and his peak years will be better than Eichel and I still stand by this.

I agree, I go to prob 3+ jr games a week split between London/Kitchener/Guelph and occasionally Sudbury. Have done so for years since prob 05. So seeing players over the years its easy to spot a special player and Marner fit that bill.

 

[SotasicA]

Close enough to call even.

Personally, I'd take the d-man, but I'm not 100% it'd be the right call.

 

[Juxtaposer]

6’5” top pairing RHD or a potentially top line winger? Easy answer.

 

[PinkFly]

6’5” top pairing RHD or a potentially top line winger? Easy answer.

More like:

Overrated 6'5 mid pairing defenseman that can slot into the top pairing if paired with Gio or a first line winger with game breaking abilities who can carry his own line.

Clear as day.

And gosh, are young defencemen vastly overrated on these forums.

 

[LeafsNation75]

More like:

Overrated 6'5 mid pairing defenseman that can slot into the top pairing if paired with Gio or a first line winger with game breaking abilities who can carry his own line.

Clear as day.

And gosh, are young defencemen vastly overrated on these forums.

Since Marner has been compared to Patrick Kane and with his ability to take over a game proves he has a lot of value.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Another classic hf gem

 

[LeafsNation75]

Another classic hf gem

Just another example of how Leafs players get overrated by other fan bases.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Well looks like the poll results speak for themselves. Only people voting for Marner are leafs fans. And everyone else voted for Dougie.

It's unfortunate but you might be right. Only leafs fans seem to value players properly

 

[Juxtaposer]

More like:

Overrated 6'5 mid pairing defenseman that can slot into the top pairing if paired with Gio or a first line winger with game breaking abilities who can carry his own line.

Clear as day.

And gosh, are young defencemen vastly overrated on these forums.

Yeah, my response was totally worth bumping a five month old thread.

 

[PinkFly]

Yeah, my response was totally worth bumping a five month old thread.

Well I responded to your post because : 1. It was extremely misinformed with minimal research and thought put into it. 2. It was the last post in the thread.

I bumped this thread because I feel like there's relevant discussion still to be had on the following topic. It had literally nothing to do with you.

 

[McBaevid]

I still take Hamilton, ~50 point RHD don't grow on trees

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Me too Hamilton.

I dont understand the sarcastic comments.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

It's a question I really don't understand. "Who has more value?" Trading value, Marner has have more due to his longer term under team control. Immediate playing value, debatable . Marner could be the be the Leafs second best forward on team the is 8th overall in the NHL. The Leafs are 12th in GAA, so the argument that are "desperate" need of a good Dman isn't true. Leafs are 9th in scoring, 5th in PP %, Does Hamilton really help the Leafs that much? Hamilton, yep the he's the best dman on an out of the playoff team.
A guess trading value also depends on what a team really needs. Calgary sure needs Marner a lot more than the Leafs need Hamilton.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Hamilton AINEC...

Young #1D >>> Top 6 Winger

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Hamilton AINEC...

Young #1D >>> Top 6 Winger

You are right a young 1d is more valuable then Marner. But we are talking about Hamilton.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

You are right a young 1d is more valuable then Marner. But we are talking about Hamilton.

A 24 year old #1D isn’t young?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

A 24 year old #1D isn’t young?

No he is young.

 

[Dack]

Me too Hamilton.

I dont understand the sarcastic comments.

I never get this kind of thing. This guy actually thought to himself "Hey remember that 5 month old Marner vs Hamilton poll? I'm going to go bump that to really show all the people that disagreed with me"

The worst part is even now it doesn't seem drastically tilted to one side. Marner may have more value but it's not by an enormous amount and the last 2 years it's been teetering to who ever is playing well.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I’d say it’s pretty even. Dougie could put up 60 points next year if he spends the whole season on PP1. Marner is a stud W. Anyone saying AINEC on either side are crazy.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Well I responded to your post because : 1. It was extremely misinformed with minimal research and thought put into it. 2. It was the last post in the thread.

I bumped this thread because I feel like there's relevant discussion still to be had on the following topic. It had literally nothing to do with you.

Interestingly, I stand by my position. I have no horse in the race, either, unlike you, who clearly have a pro-Leafs agenda.

 

[ESH]

Well I responded to your post because : 1. It was extremely misinformed with minimal research and thought put into it. 2. It was the last post in the thread.

I bumped this thread because I feel like there's relevant discussion still to be had on the following topic. It had literally nothing to do with you.

Calling Hamilton a 6’5 top pairing defenseman is true. He is literally that. Who’s misinformed?

 

[garyturner3]

I’d say it’s pretty even. Dougie could put up 60 points next year if he spends the whole season on PP1. Marner is a stud W. Anyone saying AINEC on either side are crazy.

Agreed. These guys are both stars and couldn't be much closer in value IMO.