GDT: Which cheap rental is going to anger us in 23-24? roster building

[FlyingSquirrels]

i dont know what we would do with Kane. We are nonsensically holding on to the 3rd line make up. our top FA winger signing is playing the 4th line due to this.

get crazy i guess

Svech-Aho-Jarvis
Bunting-KK-Kane
Marty-Staal-Fast
Noesen-Turbo-Necas

Yep. The Staal line should play 10 minutes tops. Yes, if we are holding a lead late, put em out there. Win a draw at a crucial time? Sure why not.
But watching the '23-'24 version of this line try to generate anything offensively is becoming comical. When they go on a rush at a home game, and the crowd starts to get amped up...I'm the guy that yells... "it's the Staal line, calm down everybody."

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Yep. The Staal line should play 10 minutes tops. Yes, if we are holding a lead late, put em out there. Win a draw at a crucial time? Sure why not.
But watching the '23-'24 version of this line try to generate anything offensively is becoming comical. When they go on a rush at a home game, and the crowd starts to get amped up...I'm the guy that yells... "it's the Staal line, calm down everybody."

It’s not quite that extreme. But no reason to give 2 4th line wingers top 6 5v5 minutes in an effort to give up the fewest goals possible while basically scoring none too.

Put Staal with 2 offensively capable wingers who aren’t atrocious defensively and let them start potting some goals. Get a 30 goal capable winger off the 4th line for goodness sakes.

Preferably in a weird situation where Kane joins the team:

Svech-Aho-Kane
Bunting-KK-Necas
Turbo-Staal-Jarvis
Noesen-Marty-Fast

Double shift either turbo or Jarvis for kane in defensive draw situations

 

[cptjeff]

I mean, I'd love Kane even at limited capacity for nothing but dollars, but at the deadline he completely wrote us off for being a boring market to play in. Dude wants big city lights and girls throwing themselves at him in hot bubs on the roofs of skyscrapers. Don't think he'll come to Raleigh. Miami seems much more likely to me.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Weird time to be complaining about MSF. Per NST, they’ve been on the ice for just 1 5v5 GA in ~127 minutes (with 4 GF). Their metrics are comically good (70%+ in Corsi, Fenwick, high danger chances and xGF).

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Weird time to be complaining about MSF. Per NST, they’ve been on the ice for just 1 5v5 GA in ~127 minutes (with 4 GF). Their metrics are comically good (70%+ in Corsi, Fenwick, high danger chances and xGF).

Its not weird when they are a black hole offensively. We have played a ton on the road so far so they haven’t played the tough matchups as much.

Add in its apparent that both Martinook and staal are slowing, taking more penalties because of it

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Once Calgary starts selling their pieces, I would still be interested in Coleman. Physical, plays on the PK, and plays defense well. A solid replacement for Turbo on the 3rd line.

If we knew Andersen was done, I would seriously consider Markstrom too

 

[Stickpucker]

Once Calgary starts selling their pieces, I would still be interested in Coleman. Physical, plays on the PK, and plays defense well. A solid replacement for Turbo on the 3rd line.

If we knew Andersen was done, I would seriously consider Markstrom too

I would like the borg to aim higher.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I would like the borg to aim higher.

Me too. If Turbo and Jarvis play like top 6 players, adding Coleman for cheap isn’t the worst move.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Still wish we had pursued Lafreniere. Oh well

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I would like the borg to aim higher.

We joke about Nylander on these boards due to those unfounded Pesce-for-Nylander rumors from back in the day, but with Toronto's current inconsistencies, Nylander's UFA is going to be really interesting. That avenue is likely our best bet for a big swing.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

We joke about Nylander on these boards due to those unfounded Pesce-for-Nylander rumors from back in the day, but with Toronto's current inconsistencies, Nylander's UFA is going to be really interesting. That avenue is likely our best bet for a big swing.

unlikely we are going to compete with teams trying to pay him 10 million a year to age 35.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Yep. The Staal line should play 10 minutes tops. Yes, if we are holding a lead late, put em out there. Win a draw at a crucial time? Sure why not.
But watching the '23-'24 version of this line try to generate anything offensively is becoming comical. When they go on a rush at a home game, and the crowd starts to get amped up...I'm the guy that yells... "it's the Staal line, calm down everybody."

Every time I get excited for a breakaway or odd-man-rush and realize it's the MSF line (which is about 70% of the time it seems), my enthusiasm completely dies before they even get to the shot, and generally the scoring opportunity dies seconds later with as much disappointment

 

[The Faulker 27]

Every time I get excited for a breakaway or odd-man-rush and realize it's the MSF line (which is about 70% of the time it seems), my enthusiasm completely dies before they even get to the shot, and generally the scoring opportunity dies seconds later with as much disappointment

It's a catch 22. There is a reason they get plenty of odd-man-rushes. They out work the opponent. It's not the worst problem to have. Every now and then they do capitalize.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It's a catch 22. There is a reason they get plenty of odd-man-rushes. They out work the opponent. It's not the worst problem to have. Every now and then they do capitalize.

I think that more wins in a string will calm a lot of the waters. We've been doing very well lately outside of a couple of games. Orlov and TDA stabilizing on the roster will also help a lot.

 

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Once Calgary starts selling their pieces, I would still be interested in Coleman. Physical, plays on the PK, and plays defense well. A solid replacement for Turbo on the 3rd line.

If we knew Andersen was done, I would seriously consider Markstrom too

Markstrom is no good.

How about Saros? He would be expensive, though.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Markstrom is no good.

How about Saros? He would be expensive, though.

Markstrom wasn’t good last season but he is one of just a handful playing well this season

 

[bleedgreen]

It’s not quite that extreme. But no reason to give 2 4th line wingers top 6 5v5 minutes in an effort to give up the fewest goals possible while basically scoring none too.

Put Staal with 2 offensively capable wingers who aren’t atrocious defensively and let them start potting some goals. Get a 30 goal capable winger off the 4th line for goodness sakes.

Preferably in a weird situation where Kane joins the team:

Svech-Aho-Kane
Bunting-KK-Necas
Turbo-Staal-Jarvis
Noesen-Marty-Fast

Double shift either turbo or Jarvis for kane in defensive draw situations

What offensively capable wingers have excelled with Staal other than Nino? Dude has been a black hole to play with most of his career with us.

 

[AD Skinner]

Am I completely tripping or was there a short stretch where staal and teravainen played really well together like 4-5 years ago

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Am I completely tripping or was there a short stretch where staal and teravainen played really well together like 4-5 years ago

Staal centered Aho and Turbo

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I don't know if we need to do anything. Goalies are voodoo and Kochetkov very well could start another hot streak right now.

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

How has Svech been looking lately? Still rusty as hell?

 

[Svechhammer]

Stop giving these guys ideas!

 

[DaveG]

OK seriously, who should we invent as having a feud leading to trade rumors that make national headlines this time? We've already proven it can work with E Staal vs Skinner and .... whatever the f*** we did with the Faulk rumors that got the Edmonton beat writer to bite.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Stop giving these guys ideas!

Seems legit.

 

[Svechhammer]

OK seriously, who should we invent as having a feud leading to trade rumors that make national headlines this time? We've already proven it can work with E Staal vs Skinner and .... whatever the f*** we did with the Faulk rumors that got the Edmonton beat writer to bite.

Not saying I don't love the idea, I do... but I'm not sure I want to run the risk of something we do ending up causing at kind of distraction or friction in the locker room with idiot reporters asking idiot questions.