Value of: What would it cost for a team to get 1st OA this draft?

[Philadelphia Ducks]

Oh God, here we go

 

[Legend123]

if the habs get that 1OA pick, theni would only accept McJesus or Matthews. Nothing else would be of interest.

 

[tmg]

When's the last time a 1st overall pick was traded before the draft?

Happened 3 times in 5 years from 1999 thru 2003. In all cases the trade involved another top 4 pick going the other way. Hasn’t happened since 2003.

 

[DanM]

if the habs get that 1OA pick, theni would only accept McJesus or Matthews. Nothing else would be of interest.

I would have to agree. Centre is very important, and they are the top pivots going forward in my mind, and the real deal in front of our eyes.

Dahlin may turn in to a monster, or not. He plays in a different league, and as talented as he is we just don't know if he will translate, and D is tough already.

I hope the Habs get him to be honest, it would be cool to go up against him, especially if he lives up to the hype.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

His development would have to stall seriously to be on par with Karlsson, that's how good he is already. So if a Karlsson is a pessimistic projection, then I'll take him over Matthews anytime.

This is the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard on here, including claims made that Laine would score 80 goals this year.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

No. Dahlin is low risk, high reward, so there's no need to play it safe taking someone like Matthews instead.

omg..dude just stop this..Matthews is already a franchise center and elite scorer who just turned 20 and is better with every game, give your a head a shake and stop making yourself a fool every gm in the league would trade that pick for him..and i also doubt Sabres would trade Eichel for Dahlin

 

[DanM]

This is the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard on here, including claims made that Laine would score 80 goals this year.

I actually didn't even know what to say to that lol

The guys said his bust is basically prime Karlsson

 

[DanM]

omg..dude just stop this..Matthews is already a franchise center and elite scorer who just turned 20 and is better with every game, give your a head a shake and stop making yourself a fool every gm in the league would trade that pick for him..and i also doubt Sabres would trade Eichel for Dahlin

Agreed

I also wouldn't trade Eichel for him

 

[135ace]

Honestly, Dmen bust a lot more often than forwards. At this point I wouldn't even trade Hischier for Dahlin.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Karlsson + Chabot + 1st. Ottawa pays Chabot + 1st for the opportunity to upgrade on Karlsson knowing if Dahlin busts at least they've got a Karlsson equivalent

 

[Albatros]

omg..dude just stop this..Matthews is already a franchise center and elite scorer who just turned 20 and is better with every game

Would you have traded the Matthews pick for Jamie Benn?

 

[CraigsList]

It would cost a lot to get 1st OA. It doesn't matter what year it is you'll receive an impact player with the 1st choice in any draft.

This decade's drafts at 1st OA:

2010 - Hall
2011 - Nugent-Hopkins
2012 - Yakupov
2013 - MacKinnon
2014 - Ekblad
2015 - McDavid
2016 - Matthews
2017 - Hischier

And if you go back a few years too, you have Tavares, Stamkos and Kane. So yeah, anyone wanting the 1st rounder is going to have to pay a good price.

 

[DanM]

Would you have traded the Matthews pick for Jamie Benn?

Personally, I have never been a massive Benn fan, but he is a hell of a player. At the very least I do look at it because at the time Benn was the proven commodity, but in the end I still don't. You can project any forward a lot easier than a Dman.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

Would you have traded the Matthews pick for Jamie Benn?

While Jamie Benn is a heck of a player, he's not Karlsson or Matthews.

He's also a left-winger. Moreover, while Jamie Benn is an unreal player, players that play his style sometimes tend to break down earlier. Karlsson is a different kind of player because his greatest asset is his unbelievable hockey IQ, so while his body has taken a beating (some significant lower-body injuries), he can still be an elite, elite player well into his 30's.

Also, Jamie Benn is not really a D-man or Center.

 

[Halla]

McDavid is the only player in the league that I'd consider for Dahlin.

absolutely insane to assume Dahlin>Matthews at this point. 40g as a rookie, 3rd in league scoring while being a selke candidate. kid is special

 

[Halla]

While Jamie Benn is a heck of a player, he's not Karlsson or Matthews.

He's also a left-winger. Moreover, while Jamie Benn is an unreal player, players that play his style sometimes tend to break down earlier. Karlsson is a different kind of player because his greatest asset is his unbelievable hockey IQ, so while his body has taken a beating (some significant lower-body injuries), he can still be an elite, elite player well into his 30's.

Also, Jamie Benn is not really a D-man or Center.

perfect response.

Jamie Benn was a star player at 24....Matthews is already a top 5 forward at 20. to even copnsider them equal is laughable at best.

 

[Halla]

Dahlin has so far 7 points in 15 games playing with men as a 17-year-old. That's more than the combined season total of Hedman, Karlsson and Lidström, and it's barely November.

yeah thats clearly worth more than a kid with 50 NHL goals in 96 games, SMH!

 

[Halla]

Well, the current pace would be enough to beat the SHL record of 17-year-olds (21 points) which as a defenseman would be quite an achievement. Currently he's already tied with the whole season of William Nylander, five points away from Daniel Sedin and ten from Peter Forsberg.

you are using a sample size of 15 games? lol its 7 points dude. OV got 7 goals in 2 games this year. thats a 280 goal pace

 

[heretik27]

Wow, this kid must be something else if Karlsson is his floor.. lmao

I guess points are enough to make anyone gush over prospects these days.

 

[Albatros]

you are using a sample size of 15 games? lol its 7 points dude.

Only two underage defensemen in the league history have more points than him, and this is early November. It is his 15 games against everyone else's full season.

 

[Jets]

omg..dude just stop this..Matthews is already a franchise center and elite scorer who just turned 20 and is better with every game, give your a head a shake and stop making yourself a fool every gm in the league would trade that pick for him..and i also doubt Sabres would trade Eichel for Dahlin

absolutely insane to assume Dahlin>Matthews at this point. 40g as a rookie, 3rd in league scoring while being a selke candidate. kid is special

Hooooooly.

 

[Halla]

this thread is brutal

Mcdavid>Dahlin>Matthews,Karlsson,Everyone else apparently.

 

[Halla]

Hooooooly.

try watching a leafs game every now and then. Matthews pretty much saves a goal with a nice defensive effort almost every game now. Kid went against patrick Kane and the shot attempts were 20-3....not much more to say.
The experts seem to think matthews will be in the convo

also you dont think Matthews is a franchise C? 50g/37a/87pts in 96 games at 19-20.
Just because Laine has completely tailed off doesn't mean you need to be salty man, Laine is still gonna be a stud. franchise ? no. elite? yes

 

[Eat The Rich]

Hooooooly.

If you don't seriously believe Matthews is a Franchise player, then what kind of plug is Laine?

 

[Heldig]

As a Coyotes fan I think it is fairly safe to say there are only two players that would even draw consideration in trading Dahlin for 1 : 1, McDavid, + Matthews. I dont see either Edmonton or Toronto considering that deal.

Then it would be interesting to see what the Coyotes do with OEL.