Not a chance. Like Lee....but love OEL. Elite Dman > Elite WingersArizona and OEL? Similar age and gives Keller an elite winger and one of the best net-front presence in the league.
Not a chance. Like Lee....but love OEL. Elite Dman > Elite WingersArizona and OEL? Similar age and gives Keller an elite winger and one of the best net-front presence in the league.
I think its also funny that Anders lee is labeled elite. Do me a favor look up Brad Boyes career stats.Not a chance. Like Lee....but love OEL. Elite Dman > Elite Wingers
BECAUSE it obviously is. as soon as you brought up tkachuk i knew it was all a set up to defend Tarasenko, but now i learned, I thought you were more fair minded than you obviously are
a sophmore slump has nothing to do with age. it has to do with regressing to the mean and teams adjusting to a player. it doesnt mater whether your 19 or 49 if you come up at any age you can have success because no one knows you, but once you are known they get to know youre strengths, so you have to adjust thats a sophmore slump and that can happen at any age regardless of how old you are
because adjustments are made on any player
second to teach you something you obviously are clueless about, jerry west widely considered the best shooter in nba history had a career shooting percentage of .474. Shaquille Oneal , has a 582 career shooting percentage and it got better into his late 30s but he wasnt considered a "great Shooter"
why because O'neal like Lee does most of his work in close, so guess what he is likely to keep his higher percentage. Tim Kerr, the closest comparable to Anders Lee in style of play had 5 seasons with a shooting percentage over 20% and a career shooting percentage of 19.4 and like lee he didnt get an early start either
unfortunately he took a beating for it and had to retire early due to the beating he took like bossy but youre entire argument is shyte, Lees shot percentage is a function of his style of play just like Shaquille O'neals and Kerrs was was playing in tight close to the goal or the rim depending on the sport. in fact odds say Lees shooting percentage may even go higher
Tarasenko on the other hand has seen his shot percentage fall every single year since he was 22 ans will likely never return to what is was his first season because teams adjusted to him
ive lost all respect i had for you because you didnt even recognize the obvious
#1. He had 36 last yr and 40 goals this season. Stop acting as if he is a career 15 goal scorer, who suddenly put up 40 goals.One year of lee hitting 40 and know you think he is on level of tarasenko. He is one year older and has scored two more goals in last two years lol. If you wanna go back last five years the older anders lee has 47 less goals than tarasenko and tarasenko over that time has 126 more points than lee. There is no comparison
Yes cause their games are so similar,both big, physical net front presencesI think its also funny that Anders lee is labeled elite. Do me a favor look up Brad Boyes career stats.
Loved Hamonic, but that ship has sailed. Do not want him back.Heard Hamilton or hamonic might be on the block. Could be base of a trade if true
I never said anywhere they were similar DID I? Boyes hit 40 goals in one year and paced like anders did for the previous and we will see how the rest of his career is. You know who inflated Boyes 40 goal season. A guy by the name of Paul kariya.Yes cause their games are so similar,both big, physical net front presences
#1. He had 36 last yr and 40 goals this season. Stop acting as if he is a career 15 goal scorer, who suddenly put up 40 goals.
#2.I never mentioned Tarasenko, so you might want to unbunch your tighty whities (sp)
So because a smaller, skilled forward could not maintain his goal scoring pace means Anders Lee, who plays a net front game cannot?I never said anywhere they were similar DID I? Boyes hit 40 goals in one year and paced like anders did for the previous and we will see how the rest of his career is. You know who inflated Boyes 40 goal season. A guy by the name of Paul kariya.
Is he really that bad now? Haven't seen him play in Calgary but was solid for the islandersLoved Hamonic, but that ship has sailed. Do not want him back.
And when he does, the next statement will be that the 2018-2019 season was a contract yr , so of course he played hard and produced.No one one of lees defenders did. Doesnt matter much anders lee is not elite yet. At 27 he has 1 year of 34g 52pts and 1 year of 40g 62 points. Lets see him do it again with out John Taveres.
And when he does, the next statement will be that the 2018-2019 season was a contract yr , so of course he played hard and produced.
Your more than welcome to hold an obtuse opinion on lee. Most people do over inflate thier own teams players. But stats don't lie. He will not keep a 30% shooting and his numbers will drop after jt leaves. You can deny it all you wsnt. Easton already laid the numbers out there and you all still refuse to look at it. That's fine. But you lost this arguement a long time ago.And when he does, the next statement will be that the 2018-2019 season was a contract yr , so of course he played hard and produced.
Also your more than welcome to keep lee give him an elite contract and see how that pans out. But blues don't need another lw on the team.And when he does, the next statement will be that the 2018-2019 season was a contract yr , so of course he played hard and produced.
sid none of them are worth lee and you of all people know it, youre being disingenuous here, name the last current 40 goal scorer traded for a Scandella or Gardiner or Klefbom or Brodie. Ill wait for your reply
and by current I meantraded off a 40 goal season for a defenseman of that caliber
Your more than welcome to hold an obtuse opinion on lee. Most people do over inflate thier own teams players. But stats don't lie. He will not keep a 30% shooting and his numbers will drop after jt leaves. You can deny it all you wsnt. Easton already laid the numbers out there and you all still refuse to look at it. That's fine. But you lost this arguement a long time ago.
like i stated before your more than welcome to resign him, pay him elite money."Stats" is not the same thing as "his numbers are going to drop in the future because I say so!"
In fact, it's pretty much the exact opposite of "stats".
Hamonic's family issue that led to him requesting a trade, never went away.Is he really that bad now? Haven't seen him play in Calgary but was solid for the islanders
I lobbied for a Scandella to LI trade during the regular season and was told by Sabre fans he was not available.Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson. If you want to split hairs, Carter was coming off a 36 goal season, but that's as close to 40 as you can get (he scored 46 and 33 goals, respectively, the two seasons prior to that one as well). And Jeff Carter is a better all around player than Lee.
So I'll ask you the same question I asked Crew: if those guys aren't worth Lee, then exactly who do you think you can land with Lee? A guy like Scandella's a little on the low side (not enough offensive upside), but Gardiner, Klefbom and Brodie are exactly the type of defenseman Lee is worth. They're all good two-way #2/#3 defensemen.
Sure worked for PAP, Okoposo and Moulson!And when he does, the next statement will be that the 2018-2019 season was a contract yr , so of course he played hard and produced.
Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson. If you want to split hairs, Carter was coming off a 36 goal season, but that's as close to 40 as you can get (he scored 46 and 33 goals, respectively, the two seasons prior to that one as well). And Jeff Carter is a better all around player than Lee.
So I'll ask you the same question I asked Crew: if those guys aren't worth Lee, then exactly who do you think you can land with Lee? A guy like Scandella's a little on the low side (not enough offensive upside), but Gardiner, Klefbom and Brodie are exactly the type of defenseman Lee is worth. They're all good two-way #2/#3 defensemen.
like i stated before your more than welcome to resign him, pay him elite money.
The part of your argument that literally everyone is taking issue with is your sample-size and the JT-factor, which whether you agree with it or not, there is more evidence to support it than refute it.You're changing the subject, I'm trying to explain to you the difference between stats and opinions.
Stat = Anders Lee (74G in 163 games) has scored more goals than Tarasenko (72G in 162 games) over the previous 2 seasons.
Opinion = Mint Chocolate Chip is the best flavor of Ice Cream.
The "stat" can easily be researched and can't be proven wrong because it is factual information. The "opinion" can be countered by anyone who feels Rocky Road or Phish Food is the best flavor of ice cream.
"Anders Lee's numbers are unsustainable and he's gonna suck in the future because I say so" is not a factual statement backed up by statistics.
Nor is "uhhh remember Brad Boyes?" because Anders Lee and Brad Boyes are different human beings, much like Mint Chocolate Chip and Phish Food are different flavors of ice cream.
The whole "you lost this argument a long time ago" is a tactic generally reserved for people who don't have the stats to support their case, so instead they just declare themselves the winner. If you need to specifically declare yourself the winner of an internet argument, you've already lost it.
I hope this lesson has explained that you've provided nothing statistical or factual to back up your opinion that Anders Lee is actually a bad hockey player.
Okposo produced not only on the top line with Tavares,but also on a line with Nielsen and Bailey. Injuries are taking a toll on his body and career.Sure worked for PAP, Okoposo and Moulson!
The part of your argument that literally everyone is taking issue with is your sample-size and the JT-factor, which whether you agree with it or not, there is more evidence to support it than refute it.