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I understand the reluctance. But isn’t a juniper berry the source of gin, so therefore all martinis contain berries?
I understand the reluctance. But isn’t a juniper berry the source of gin, so therefore all martinis contain berries?
Let's not get all scientific over this. You don't bring a muddler and juniper berries to make your gin.
And when someone brings tater tots to muddle in their vodka drinks (y'know since vodka is made from...) I'll know the world has truly gone to hell.Oh, I'm sure somebody does.
I mean, an Old Fashioned gets its name from the fact that way back in the day, "cocktail" exclusively meant a drink of spirit, sugar, water (aka ice or some other form of dilution), and bitters. It's what somebody would have ordered during the late 1800s when "cocktail" grew to encompass most any mixed drink- they would have asked for an "old fashioned whiskey cocktail". Fruit additions, types of bitters, amount of sugar, amount of dilution could all vary based on the bar. Especially back in an era where a lot of ingredients like bitters and syrups weren't standardized and bars made their own.A newfangled Old Fashioned is anything but!
Keep it simple. Pour some whiskey [preferably Tennessee] in a glass. Sit back. Relax.
As usual, I feel asleep after the first Aho goal, woke up with about 5 minutes remaining, to see Aho score again and the team close it out.
I mean, an Old Fashioned gets its name from the fact that way back in the day, "cocktail" exclusively meant a drink of spirit, sugar, water (aka ice or some other form of dilution), and bitters. It's what somebody would have ordered during the late 1800s when "cocktail" grew to encompass most any mixed drink- they would have asked for an "old fashioned whiskey cocktail". Fruit additions, types of bitters, amount of sugar, amount of dilution could all vary based on the bar. Especially back in an era where a lot of ingredients like bitters and syrups weren't standardized and bars made their own.
The "Old Fashioned" meaning only one possible, narrow recipe is, in fact, the newfangled thing. When they were first invented they would have just been a "whiskey cocktail" and it could have meant damn near anything. For example, the Sazerac started life (despite many, many myths) as the Sazerac company's prebottled "whiskey cocktail", because it fit that traditional cocktail formula. Spirit, sugar, bitters, and you the buyer would just pour it on ice for the water. The "Sazerac Whiskey Cocktail" just became the Sazerac.
Live a little. And try some different bitters in your old fashioneds. I made some molé bitters a while back, they're great. A dash of orange bitters (or another citrus bitter) in with the angostura is also wonderful.
Is that a lot? Not a hard liquor drinker.A half gallon of Makers or Jack is 65 bucks now.
Edited for quantity.
Yes, variants on Old Fashioneds are very good and should be enjoyed.
No, those variants are not Old Fashioneds, no matter what the 18th Century definition may have been.
If it's a variant, call it "your take on the Old Fashioned." Don't call it an Old Fashioned, because when what you deliver has raspberry jam instead of simple syrup and a mango peel instead of an orange peel and cognac instead of bourbon, it's not gonna be an Old Fashioned, and that's what I f***ing ordered, Steve
Everybody has made it somewhat differently for the entire existence of the cocktail, and there never has been a single universally accepted definition of the Old Fashioned.
"Oh look, my favorite drink, the alcohol!"I find it not at all shocking that we don’t agree on Old Fashions.
I just say “thank you” and drink whatever they give me after I order it, I’m just entering the time in my life where I entertain making my own or caring enough about the contents.
it's like a fancier version of those 'turning into your parents' commercialsNothing is more old fashioned than a bunch of “olds” arguing about an Old Fashioned.
Now I'm too only thinking of the Randy Marsh definition.I don't mind an Old Fashioned but it seems like one of those things that you can't order anymore without people thinking you're a hipster.