GDT: WhaleCanes @ Bruins: AKA Whale v.s. Bear

[TheBigKahuna]

By March, everyone has "issues".

 

[StormCast]

You all do realize how hard it is for me to be here and not rag on No. 27, right?

Queso, what's your point?

 

[zman77]

Bruins DeBrusk made a great play on Faulk.
Faulk underestimated the situation.

 

[zman77]

 

[The Faulker 27]

Ferland has been playing hurt for at least a month, probably two. Not just a concussion. I thought he was having back problems? He’s gutting it out. He’s likely not the only one. I think Martinook has been playing hurt for awhile too.

I noticed Foegele was lumbering around some last night. At one point he looked like he was limping off the ice. May have just been fatigue, but he goes at it like a bat out of hell (as my gramps would say). I wouldn't be surprised if he was nursing something.

 

[zman77]

 

[zman77]

 

[zman77]

 

[zman77]

 

[zman77]

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Faulk didn't play any differently last night than he did in the previous 5 games. To claim he's always trash or whatever nonsense is being thrown around is a very results-oriented what have you done for me lately mindset.

And that mindset is a terrible one to judge players on, since it changes from shift to shift. Aho made a godawful turnover in OT against Florida, one that he even acknowledged post-game was just terrible, but it was quickly forgotten because Mrazek made a save and we won the game. But it didn't make the play any less worthy of criticism. And you don't hear calls for Aho to be removed from 3-on-3.

Turnovers happen, and in OT, they're even more dangerous due to the amount of open ice. But that's the game. Accept it and move on to the next one.

 

[NotOpie]

Ferland has been playing hurt for at least a month, probably two. Not just a concussion. I thought he was having back problems? He’s gutting it out. He’s likely not the only one. I think Martinook has been playing hurt for awhile too.

I believe that the observations that Pesce looks slow is due to playing hurt as well. If I recall he had a bit of a knee thing...wouldn't surprise me if he's a bit limited w/that still.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Meh, you're right.

This has never been an answer to one of my long winded rebuttals. I like you.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

This has never been an answer to one of my long winded rebuttals. I like you.

Sometimes it's just better to admit your stupidity.

 

[Lempo]

Sometimes it's just better to admit your stupidity.

Oh what a devious use of pronoun!

 

[My Special Purpose]

Faulk didn't play any differently last night than he did in the previous 5 games. To claim he's always trash or whatever nonsense is being thrown around is a very results-oriented what have you done for me lately mindset.

And that mindset is a terrible one to judge players on, since it changes from shift to shift. Aho made a godawful turnover in OT against Florida, one that he even acknowledged post-game was just terrible, but it was quickly forgotten because Mrazek made a save and we won the game. But it didn't make the play any less worthy of criticism. And you don't hear calls for Aho to be removed from 3-on-3.

Turnovers happen, and in OT, they're even more dangerous due to the amount of open ice. But that's the game. Accept it and move on to the next one.

I'm here with you. It's the turnovers that are killing us. Puck management. Smart, safe plays. Hockey IQ. Whatever you want to call it. Look at the Bruins goals last night. Brindy mentioned it in post-game, but we had the puck on our stick on *every* one, we just couldn't make a safe play.

On the first goal, Hamilton has the puck on his stick, but instead of getting it to a safe area or even icing it, he throws it up the middle. Three seconds later, it's in our net. On the second goal, Slavin stops the puck at the offensive blue line, but under pressure, can't get it past the first man -- or even "eat it" and just make sure Krejci doesn't get free -- leading directly to a goal. On the third (shorthanded) goal, Faulk has the puck on his stick at the halfboards and instead of going the safe way to Niederreiter at the goal line extended, tries to force a pass through Marchand to Williams at the point. And the fourth goal is the fourth goal. Faulk has the puck on his stick, but he underestimates DeBrusk, waits too long, and coughs it up.

We make more quality defensive plays than any team in the league. Our defense against odd-man rushes is fantastic. The stickwork of guys like Pesce, Slavin and TvR make us very hard to play against. But we continue to make bad -- or slow ... or both -- decisions once we've turned the puck over and we are giving up too many extra chances that often turn into goals against.

The game is so focused on possession now, that sometimes, all our players (not just defensemen) feel "forced" to make a play, instead of just getting the puck out of danger.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I just bought a $20 five-team money line parlay ticket with BOS, NYI, MON, PIT, CBJ.

So now we know, at least one thing will go our way tonight.

I've never been this upset at going 5-0 and cashing for $159 profit.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I've never been this upset at going 5-0 and cashing for $159 profit.

Hitting a 5 team parlay only gets you that? Why does anyone gamble?

 

[the halleJOKEL]

I've never been this upset at going 5-0 and cashing for $159 profit.

so where is the meetup for our keg?

 

[Primetime8]

Hitting a 5 team parlay only gets you that? Why does anyone gamble?

I rarely do bet but I put $40 on UNC vs Duke and it won me $140. Then I won some parlay the Saturday the Flyers came back and beat the Penguins in overtime (I had Flyers winning). So I went from $50 to like $310 in just a couple weeks. Cashed out most of it.

I also put $100 on the Canes the win the cup before the season. They were 100:1 odds so if it hits I'll get $10,000 (More like $6,000 though because the government will steal part of it)

 

[My Special Purpose]

Hitting a 5 team parlay only gets you that? Why does anyone gamble?

Time for another gambling lesson from Kevin the Degenerate. There are two different types of parlays, fixed odds and true odds. Parlays with only point spreads and over/under totals at standard -110 odds are fixed odds parlays and pay out at the following odds: 2-team 13/5, 3-team 6/1, 4-team 10/1, 5-team 20/1, 6-team 40/1, 7-team 75/1, 8-team 150/1. So a 5-team fixed odds parlay at $20 would have paid me $400 in profit.

But, hockey bets don't use spreads, they use money lines, similar to baseball, so parlays using money lines pay off at true odds. And since I took five favorites, I had to lay some pretty big odds. For example, the Islanders were -315 last night at home against Ottawa. That means, betting the Islanders, I'd have had to lay $315 to make $100. If you factor that down to $20, the Islanders part of my parlay made me less than $7 profit.

The money-line parlay is actually extremely popular among the "public" (i.e. not smart or "sharp" bettors). People love to put up to eight big favorites together in one parlay. It won't pay a ton (like mine), but the thinking is they'll cash enough to make it profitable (note: they don't). During football season, it's common for one big upset to take out literally *thousands* of parlay cards/tickets. That Patriots/Dolphins game in Miami near the end of the season was a great example. I think every parlay card/ticket in the country had the Patriots. When the Dolphins scored on the final play, you could almost hear all those tickets getting torn up.

I still think the best gamblers in the world are guys who know the game inside and out and pounce on a "soft" number two or three times a week for big money. People who bet every game are always losers. People who bet every day are almost always losers. It's the guys who bet big 3-5 games a week who scare the sports books.

so where is the meetup for our keg?

Saturday at 6 p.m., we'll pre-game for the Preds game. BTW, I'm in Hershey, PA.

P.S. Anybody wants me back in Raleigh can help me get a job.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I rarely do bet but I put $40 on UNC vs Duke and it won me $140. Then I won some parlay the Saturday the Flyers came back and beat the Penguins in overtime (I had Flyers winning). So I went from $50 to like $310 in just a couple weeks. Cashed out most of it.

I also put $100 on the Canes the win the cup before the season. They were 100:1 odds so if it hits I'll get $10,000 (More like $6,000 though because the government will steal part of it)

This is a very common misconception. You will not have anything withheld if that wager wins. The sports book will hand you $10,000 in cash. You will probably have to fill out a form, but it is not an IRS form, and the casino will not report this to the IRS.

"Technically," you are required to report the $10,000 on a Form 1099-G on your taxes, but the government will not withhold anything. The government only withholds gambling winnings from a sports book when the odds exceed 300:1.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This is a very common misconception. You will not have anything withheld if that wager wins. The sports book will hand you $10,000 in cash. You will probably have to fill out a form, but it is not an IRS form, and the casino will not report this to the IRS.

"Technically," you are required to report the $10,000 on a Form 1099-G on your taxes, but the government will not withhold anything. The government only withholds gambling winnings from a sports book when the odds exceed 300:1.

Translation: "the government will only steal part of it if you report it, sucka"

 

[Roboturner913]

Saturday at 6 p.m., we'll pre-game for the Preds game. BTW, I'm in Hershey, PA.

So, I'm confused. You're going to be in Nashville Saturday? Because I am

 

[Lempo]

So, I'm confused. You're going to be in Nashville Saturday? Because I am

I assume he will be in Hershey, PA.

I also assume this is an invitation to go watch the game at his place, because he can't be so dick as to booze y'all up with the pre-game keg and then when the game is starting to throw you out of his yard to go and find a Hershey, PA television set that's showing CAN-NSH.